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15-year-old burglar shot by South LA woman dies at hospital
AP ^ | 8/25/5

Posted on 08/24/2005 9:28:26 PM PDT by SmithL

LOS ANGELES - A 15-year-old burglary suspect died Wednesday, a day after being shot by a woman who told police she returned to her South Los Angeles home to confront a tire iron-wielding boy in her house.

The shooting took place about 8:30 a.m. Tuesday when Mary Ann Talley, 59, returned to her home after her daily walk, police said in a statement. When Talley entered her home, a young burglar confronted her with a tire iron and she shot him with a handgun she keeps for protection.

The boy was taken to a hospital where he died Wednesday, said Officer Jason Lee, a police spokesman.

The boy's identity was not released.

Talley was not injured in the incident.

The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was investigating to determine if any charges should be filed, Lee said.


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Another dead criminal that has paid for his evil-doing with his life.
1 posted on 08/24/2005 9:28:27 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Pretty stupid to bring a tar iron to a gun fight


2 posted on 08/24/2005 9:30:04 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: SmithL

Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. This kid was stupid.


3 posted on 08/24/2005 9:32:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: al baby

"tar iron"

Just another "albabyism"


4 posted on 08/24/2005 9:33:48 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: SmithL
Once again, it is proven that one should always be prepared to defend oneself--even when doing something as mundane as taking a morning walk.

Great ending to what could have been a very bad experience!


5 posted on 08/24/2005 9:37:22 PM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: al baby

You mean "tar tool"


6 posted on 08/24/2005 9:38:09 PM PDT by dennisw (Muhammad was a successful Hitler. Hitler killed too many people too fast - L. Auster)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

it,s a nascarism


7 posted on 08/24/2005 9:43:58 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: SmithL

> The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was
> investigating to determine if any charges should be
> filed, Lee said.

Hell yes charges should be filed: parental neglect, educational neglect, and if the perp were still alive charges ought to be filed against his sorry @$$ for breaking and entering, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon...


8 posted on 08/24/2005 9:44:31 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: SmithL

Excellent.


9 posted on 08/24/2005 9:44:48 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: SmithL

i thought the supreme court ruled out the death penalty for minors?


10 posted on 08/24/2005 9:45:01 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: SmithL
The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was investigating to determine if any charges should be filed

Reading statements like that makes me glad I live in Texas.

11 posted on 08/24/2005 9:46:34 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: SmithL

I was feeling pretty proud of being from Baton Rouge after reading the title. Then I read on and realized South LA meant Los Angeles and not South Louisiana.


12 posted on 08/24/2005 9:48:16 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: Stellar Dendrite

The boy committed suicide.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 9:49:27 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: sockmonkey

"The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was investigating to determine if any charges should be filed"

yeah, she shouldnt have shot him. she should have let him beat her to a bloody pulp with his tire iron!!!

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER


14 posted on 08/24/2005 9:51:33 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. -Churchill)
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To: sockmonkey

Well said,

In 1976, my wife's cousin, then just 21 years old, shot and killed a would-be rapist who broke into her apartment in Houston. The 300 lb intruder kicked the door in at 3AM, confronted her with his intentions, and declared, "You wouldn't shoot me, you little ****." Those were his last words, she hit him twice, in the neck and above the right eye, with a .45 auto. The grand jury hearing was strictly routine, required by law after all fatal shootings, and resulted in a quick no-bill.


15 posted on 08/24/2005 9:52:50 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: SmithL
... she shot him with a handgun she keeps for protection.

I wonder how many California gun laws Mrs. Talley broke that morning.

16 posted on 08/24/2005 9:52:55 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: SmithL

Look at the way the story is worded...


"...she returned to her South Los Angeles home to confront a tire iron-wielding boy in her house..."


They word it so it makes her look like SHE came back to shoot him... Not that she happened to walk in on him and startled she probably grabbed for her gun she has... But, instead she left to get the gun and "returned to confront him"....

Ahhhh, they subconcious planting of that poor 15yr. old...


17 posted on 08/24/2005 9:54:50 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: sockmonkey

Reading statements like that makes me glad I live in Texas.


I can't believe you said this. Wasn't in Texas when the illegal aliens won the guy's ranch after suing him for giving them blankets, water and food??

No matter where a person lives in the United States, as long as President Bush and his administration refuses to lock down the borders, we are not safe from the illegals.


18 posted on 08/24/2005 9:57:27 PM PDT by antiunion person (CLOSE the borders, both Canadian and Mexican for our safety.)
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To: SmithL

Add this yoot to the "child victims of gun violence" statistic. :-/


19 posted on 08/24/2005 9:58:33 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Wisely investing in quality tin foil wardrobe basics since 1998)
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To: SmithL

But but but, didn't he call beforehand and inform her of her rights, and state his age??? Sigh


20 posted on 08/24/2005 9:59:44 PM PDT by Waco
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To: dennisw; ButThreeLeftsDo; al baby

I believe the correct phonetic spelling is: 'tar arn'


21 posted on 08/24/2005 10:00:26 PM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: andie74

Similar to "fahr works"


22 posted on 08/24/2005 10:05:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Muhammad was a successful Hitler. Hitler killed too many people too fast - L. Auster)
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To: dennisw

You got it. In Nascarese, all words that include the 'ire' sound in English have been reduced to 'ahr'.

As in the forementioned, but also in:
Y'all are requahred to call the phone cumpny to check the wahr 'fore you dig that ho.


23 posted on 08/24/2005 10:16:26 PM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: SmithL

Good shot. But are you allowed to defend your self in LA?


24 posted on 08/24/2005 10:25:47 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: SmithL

I would imagine that the woman who shot the perp may be facing a civil lawsuit from the family (if he has one) of the little burglar. I can hear it now. His mother blubbering, "He was a good boy. He shouldn't have had to pay with his life for making a mistake. We miss him!".

And this:
"The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was investigating to determine if any charges should be filed, Lee said."

Please. Filing charges against a woman for defending herself against a thug threatening her with a tire iron?


25 posted on 08/24/2005 10:29:56 PM PDT by FixedandDilated
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To: Starve The Beast

None, I believe. In CA you can carry concealed and loaded in your home. Also, the law says that if someone breaks into your home you are presumed to be in fear of your life and justified to use deadly force.


26 posted on 08/24/2005 10:29:57 PM PDT by tarator
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To: tarator

California has a "your home is your castle" doctrine. You have no duty to retreat in your own home.


27 posted on 08/24/2005 10:30:40 PM PDT by FixedandDilated
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To: SmithL

Another one bites the dust! Hey hey!


28 posted on 08/24/2005 10:31:07 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Ew. This tastes like a monkey. A monkey that's past his prime. "Chris Griffin")
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To: Starve The Beast
I wonder how many California gun laws Mrs. Talley broke that morning.

I'm certain this is being diligently investigated. No sarcasm either. At the very least I doubt if she'll ever see her gun back again.

29 posted on 08/24/2005 10:32:26 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Anne got her gone..clean kill.
Hopefully he left the gene pool before replicating.
Hope she bills his parents for the carpet cleaning and round.


30 posted on 08/24/2005 10:38:50 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

Keeping that old 49 Ford tire iron around was also a good thing for this lady.


31 posted on 08/24/2005 10:40:20 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SmithL
She should have asked to sit down and wait while she called the police. The would have come in a half hour or so and taken the poor kids away in cuffs. If she had done that the kid would be back at home with his loving parents instead dead.
32 posted on 08/24/2005 11:09:39 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

In England,she would have gotten the death penalty for protecting herself....


33 posted on 08/24/2005 11:22:09 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: FixedandDilated

But if he was black and she was white,it begins another round of questioning...Did she kill him because she was afraid or a racist??????Liberals love to ponder meaty questions such as this one...Because any lib will tell you,she really didn't have to shoot..A round of hand-holding and singing 'Kumbaya" would have turned his life around....


34 posted on 08/24/2005 11:31:31 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: SmithL
The Los Angeles County district attorney's office was investigating to determine if any charges should be filed, Lee said.

Pretty stupid to waste the time and money, since the puke is dead.

I know of no DA that will file charges against a dead person.

(Yeah, I'm in full "naive" mode this morning.)

35 posted on 08/25/2005 5:24:21 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Hey Islam...I flushed a koran today and I let my dog pp on it first. Come get me, moon bats!)
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36 posted on 08/25/2005 5:26:40 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SmithL

That's one 15-year-old burglar who won't turn into a 16-year-old burglar.


37 posted on 08/25/2005 5:28:50 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Any day now his second cousin will sign on to tell us he was invited over and berate us for slandering him.


38 posted on 08/25/2005 5:29:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Why are we "freepers"? Shouldn't we be "freereps"? Are we dyslexic?)
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To: SmithL

Got what he deserved BUMP!


39 posted on 08/25/2005 5:29:44 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: SmithL

Tire iron, meet shooting iron, you lose.


40 posted on 08/25/2005 5:30:38 AM PDT by csvset
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No doubt the parents will sue this poor woman since the scotus has waid the death penalty cannot be used on teenagers.


41 posted on 08/25/2005 5:33:24 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: SmithL

$100 says the kid's family will be suing.


42 posted on 08/25/2005 5:41:25 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: SmithL

clap clap clap clap!


43 posted on 08/25/2005 5:43:06 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: freeangel
...and no quote from the punk's parents?

"My son would never break into anyone's home. He was such a good boy. He couldn't even spell 'tar arn' let alone carry one!"
44 posted on 08/25/2005 5:48:25 AM PDT by midwestmidnight
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"In England,she would have gotten the death penalty for protecting herself...."

Ummm... England doesn't have the death penalty.


45 posted on 08/25/2005 5:49:53 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Larry Lucido

Yeah, we're due.


46 posted on 08/25/2005 5:50:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Hand em their arse

"They word it so it makes her look like SHE came back to shoot him... Not that she happened to walk in on him and startled she probably grabbed for her gun she has... But, instead she left to get the gun and "returned to confront him"...."

Poorly worded, but then the second paragraph makes it very clear what happened. I can't imagine anybody would come away from this story thinking, "Gosh, that lady came in, found a burglar, left to locate a gun, and then came back and shot the burglar, who had conveniently waited around for her to return so he could be killed."

Let's be realistic.


47 posted on 08/25/2005 5:55:00 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: SmithL
I just love a story with a happy ending!
48 posted on 08/25/2005 5:55:43 AM PDT by Gritty ("A lot more mothers will be grieving if our military policy is: No one gets hurt!" - Ann Coulter)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
He wasn't a miner, he was a burglar apprentice. ;)





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49 posted on 08/25/2005 6:03:26 AM PDT by G.Mason
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Tragic, but better a blossoming crook in the prime of youth than a lady dead from blunt-force trauma to the head.
50 posted on 08/25/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. (1 Corinthians 16:13))
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