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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
NOAA - NHC ^ | 28 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/28/2005 2:38:16 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Extremely dangerous Hurricane Katrina is bearing down on the North Central Gulf of Mexico and New Orleans metro area. Thousands of people did not evacuate New Orleans. Outer bands of Katrina are reaching the Louisiana coast.

Due to the size and intensity of this storm, all interests in the North Gulf of Mexico should be in their safe locations.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi

Buoy Data Florida

Images:


New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Radar

Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop

Northwest Florida Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:


Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics

Live streaming:

WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; tropical
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To: Peach; Dog; Carolinamom; ABG(anybody but Gore)
Good to see some ATRW guys out here.

I am still in shock at some of the cavalier attitudes with some of those that are partying on Burboun Street.

221 posted on 08/28/2005 3:01:55 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: MikeinIraq

Really? Maybe the sizes differ, but oil tankers have come in to Philly for years. I'll never forget the winter of '93 when the Delaware froze over and the Navy had to send an icebreaker to free a tanker that got stranded in the middle of the river. They've been talking about re-dredging the Delaware to increase the depth of the two channels by an extra 40 feet (it might have been done by now). Just about all we have from Philly down to the DE state line are mile after mile of refineries.


222 posted on 08/28/2005 3:01:55 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Doogle
So who is going to wave a magic wand and make Katrina disappear?

The universe's biggest box of Damp Rid?

Well, it was just a thought.

223 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:01 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Make that 4PM Central, 5 PM Eastern.


224 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:09 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: Godebert
Superdome Statistics

Total Land Area: (building, garages, and grounds) 52 acres

Height: 273 feet (82.3 meters)

Diameter of Dome: 680 feet (210 meters)

Area of Roof: 9.7 acres

Interior Space: 125,000,000 cubic feet

Total square footage: 269,000 sq. ft. (82,342 sq. meters)

Main Arena: 166,180 sq. ft. (50,685 sq. meters)

Convention Concourse: 76,711 sq. ft. (8,261 sq. meters)

Concrete: 169,000 cubic yards (131,820 cubic meters)

Structural Steel: 20,000 tons (18,200 metric tons)

Air Conditioning: 9,000 tons (8,190 metric tons)

Meeting Rooms (200 Loge Level): Four 19,000 square foot

quadrant rooms (each divisible into 6 individual rooms, 28 smaller reception rooms)

Rest rooms: 102 (51 women's & 51 men's)

Air Conditioning: 9,000 tons

Lighting: 19,507 fixtures utilizing 27,869 lamps

Electrical Wiring: 400 miles (640 kilometers), including fiber optic lines

Anodized Aluminum Siding: more than 550,000 sq. ft.

Escalators: 42

Elevators: 14 (9 passenger & 5 freight )

Maximum Seating Capacity: football 69,703, expanded football 72,003, arena concerts 20,000, basketball 55,675, baseball 63,525

225 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:16 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of Note)
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To: oceanview

I'm not a weatherman, so I have no idea...There are many projections, and the projections are narrowing...


226 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:21 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Deo volente

I found this about New Orleans trying to find info. on the elevation of the Superdome. I find the info on the chaning conditions (basically lowering elevation and higher water) to be of note.:

Located in S.E Louisiana this large city is surrounded by water & is below sea level. The area takes 2 days to evacuate. .......Elevation: 11 feet

Requires over 40 hrs evacuation clearance time for a cat 4. Area is below sea level, new drainage pumps are in place we will see how she fares. 40 to 60 miles of marshland sink each year. This area will be in big trouble if a major hurricane hits. As of 2001 22 pumping stations pump 30 billion gallons of water per day. The Gulf of Mexico is, in effect, probably 20 miles closer to New Orleans than it was in 1965 when Hurricane Betsy hit. Mississippi River delta as much as 3 feet lower relative to sea level than it was a century ago, and the process continues. Water can get trapped for weeks inside the levee system. Experts estimate that between 25,000 and 100,000 could drown in a major hit.


227 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:21 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: randita
My bet is that plans are to bring in multiple porta-potties. Also probably on the way are crates of MRE's or other methods of food.

If they bring in MRE's...they won't need porta-potties.

228 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:38 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Beelzebubba
I fervently hope that you will be able to visit in Christmas 2005 (as in your post!)

FRegards,

229 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:50 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Amelia
why they didn't shut things down & start getting those tourists out of there by lunchtime yesterday

Greed for the almighty tourist dollar.

230 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:50 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Churchillspirit

Bastardi says "worse thing NO has ever experienced". It's Worse than Camille. This is not a "chicken Little" situation. Bastardi is very serious and grave.


231 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:51 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: Howlin
And how'd you get your mouse to say that? :-)

On the static experimental radar displays, click on one edge of the eye (or anyplace on the map) and move the mouse to where you want to measure. You'll lose that ability on the looping ones.

232 posted on 08/28/2005 3:02:59 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: MikeinIraq

I agree. Something also to consider, cutting taxes on fuel at the pump for a little while, but we all know that won't happen.


233 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:04 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: hole_n_one

Hey...lay of Janice Dean...she is a good weatherperson...and that fact that she CARES means something to a lot of us!


234 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:11 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: SamAdams76

Superdome will top out at 30-35,000. They expect the field and ground level to be underwater.


235 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:21 PM PDT by Founding Father (According to the Pres, I'm a vigilante; according to me, he's a Fox butt kisser)
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To: mewzilla

yeah...

this is depressing...I'm numb.


236 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:32 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (It's called having class.....)
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To: mhking
Damn! That eye is HUGE!

From Accuweather.com:

"This is truly fascinating. Sunday, Hurricane Katrina was causing winds from 175 to 215 mph. These extreme winds were occurring in the eye wall of the storm. Now compare that to an F3 tornado which has winds from 158 to 206 mph. At full throttle Sunday, Katrina was actually more powerful. Also consider that an F3 tornado is 300 yards in diameter on average while Katrina's eye wall is 25 miles across. What this amounts to is that Hurricane Katrina has all the devastating chracteristics of a 25 mile wide tornado."

237 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:49 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: All

Don't despair, folks. Every one of those high-rise hotels and other buildings in New Orleans is built upon steel pilings that are embedded in bedrock. By law they have to be, because New Orleans' soft soil will not support multistory construction built upon surface foundations. These structures will survive the winds and floods. The people in these buildings can survive as well as long as they stay above the fourth floor and lie low to avoid flying glass and other missiles during the strike itself.

As far as the aftermath goes, a big-city hotel is actually a pretty good survival shelter: solid concrete and steel construction, wide stairways, and plenty of sleeping space. Water is readily available in a hotel: every toilet in the building will have 1-3 gallons of clean, drinkable water in its tank, and then there are the big hot water heater tanks and indoor swimming pools that can be drained. The toilets won't flush anymore of course, but human waste can be disposed of by simply throwing it off a balcony. As far as food goes, it's a fact that healthy people can survive two to three weeks without any food at all, but then again there are are vending machines on every floor and you'd be surprised how long a person can live on a diet of Fritos and Diet Dr Pepper provided they have access to potable water. The pantries and minibars will contain food as well. Liquor from the bar can be used as a disinfectant, tranquilizer, and anesthetic if necessary. And there are clothes, blankets, soap, and other amenities to spare.

In short, those people trapped in high-rise buildings stand a good chance of living through this thing, so don't give up hope yet. In the end, we are Americans, and Americans are notoriously difficult to kill. Chins up, gang.


238 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:49 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: mware
Anodized Aluminum Siding: more than 550,000 sq. ft.

I hope it's bolted down.

239 posted on 08/28/2005 3:03:58 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Nita Nupress
Nita, this is as bad as it could possibly get. Seriously.

We will be talking about this for the rest of our lives.

240 posted on 08/28/2005 3:04:10 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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