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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: NautiNurse
From WWLTV:

St. Bernard Parish spokesman Larry Ingargiola says the parish's two shelters at Chalmette High and St. Bernard High are suffering major damage. He said Chalmette High shelter is losing its roof, and St. Bernard High has plenty of broken windows and glass. He estimates 300-plus refugees at the two sites. Entergy says 317,000 customers were without power as of 6 a.m. Cleco reported 40,000 without power in St. Tammany Parish. Air conditioning out at Louisiana Superdome due to power outages. St. Bernard Parish officials say most of the parish has no power.

1,081 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:29 AM PDT by mrobison (We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.)
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To: cajungirl

winds will turn more north soon..we will find out if the surge will come over the levee off the lake or not


1,082 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:44 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: HamiltonJay

ABC reporting that power has failed at the SuperDome and they have switched to generator - which is powering the lights but not the AC system.


1,083 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:47 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: IMRight
There ARE buildings where the roof is an essential part of the entire structure (your home is a likely example)... but this is not such a structure (at least not from what I can see).

According to the article I read, this roof IS an essential part of the structure. I am trying to find the link (it was mentioned in a previous Katrina thread).
1,084 posted on 08/29/2005 6:28:55 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: MEG33

From where did you hear that about the Hyatt? I've got a trip to New Orleans scheduled in a little over the month and our host hotel is the Hyatt New Orleans.


1,085 posted on 08/29/2005 6:29:17 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Seems that these surges are almost always predicted to be higher that they are. Guess to get people to get out of the way.


1,086 posted on 08/29/2005 6:29:35 AM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: Gondring

The most likely weak link for a catastrophic breach is actually the west side levee, which is the lowest at 10'. Because the topside winds have been blowing to the west and then southwest before eventually coming out of the north, all that water blown in the lake are first pushed towards the spillway to the SW of the lake, and the first danger is that builds up so much as to overtop the west side. Now as the eye moves even to the city on the east side, the worst danger area expands to the city's north shore, as the winds max and shift to coming straight out of the north.

Also people may not realize that there are levees separating the main area of NO and the city's northeast side, the closest side to the eye. So it is possible that one could see catastrophic flooding while the other does not. Time will tell.


1,087 posted on 08/29/2005 6:29:54 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: gopwinsin04

Levy Breach!


1,088 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:07 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: ImphClinton

BUmp


1,089 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:16 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Nita Nupress; All

Nita, the posting yesterday about the structure of the Superdome roof, and our concerns seem to be valid, unfortunately...

for the rest of you, try to go back and find nita's post about how the outside walls of the Superdome is essentially hanging from the roof... if the roof goes, what the heck is going to happen to the walls.

They have to get those poor people near the concession stands, and how I hope those are above the flood levels....


1,090 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:34 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Fox reports that the ripped roof is a membrane type lining - that the roof structure itself is ok


1,091 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:37 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: cajungirl

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.


1,092 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:52 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: ImphClinton

MSNBC is demonstrating the height of the storm surge now. Clever.


1,093 posted on 08/29/2005 6:30:59 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Sleeping Freeper

It's like a circus. ON MSNBC they have a guy on a platform showing storn surges from famous hurricanes.


1,094 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:00 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Might want to come up with a plan B ... hotels in Melbourne Fla haven't been rebuilt yet from last year's storms. Recent article talking about $65M revenue (govt rake-off) shortfall. There will be some major rebuilding going on in the Big Easy.


1,095 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: NonValueAdded

Oh that's good news that you are safe. You sure sounded like you were right there.
Thanks for the info though.


1,096 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:29 AM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: ImphClinton

Well remember that the storm surge will not be an even height because of the variation in the conditions that drive it. So it might reach 20' at one point and 15' a mile away.


1,097 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:42 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Source?


1,098 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:50 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: IMRight

Someone posted an engineering report on the construction of the Superdome yesterday. Most of the structural integrity comes from the roof. That the walls are pushing outward and the roof holds them in place.


1,099 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:53 AM PDT by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: NonValueAdded
"(silver lining optimist, hole in the roof but at least now we can see) "

The super dome roof has a thick foam liner that acts as insulation and sealer over the concrete. The foam has come off in places but there is no breach in the concrete. Everyone is still safe in the super dome.
1,100 posted on 08/29/2005 6:31:58 AM PDT by monday
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