Aruba Suspect Arrives in Amsterdam (Holloway Case)

Guardian ^ | Sept. 6, 2005 | TOBY STERLING

[lOKKI]

Here is the only lesson of value to come from this tragedy:

If you go to Aruba, don't expect the local authorities to come to your assistance

There will be no protection from robbery or rape.

Tourists are simply cash cows... lose a cow, get another to replace it, and don't worry about it.

I'm not calling for a boycott of Aruba, but simply warning - if they can't catch a murderer (who ever it might be), they're sure not going to catch the guy who burglarizes your hotel room, or takes your wallet at knife-point.

Fair warning.

[ASOC]

Oh, don't forget to add..

Don't get puking drunk, get left by your 'friends' or accept rides from st angers. One never knows how it will turn out.

[penowa]

"did ANYONE seriously believe that the Arubans would ever do anything with a Dutch boy who murdered an American girl?

No. From previous experience I knew that nobody would be punished for this unless there had been radical change in the way Aruba operated from 30+ yrs. ago. Guess what? There are changes and almost all of them make the place worse than it was back then.

Yes, ladyjane. Chances are we will hear about this young man again unless his family hires him a permanent babysitter. Let's hope the next time he does something, he does it in a place where the Dutch are no better than anyone else.

[vigilante2]

like I always say..

[cgk]

Geraldo was just on O'Reilly saying that Van der Sloot's (van der SLUT per O'Reilly) Dutch confession was translated to English after being obtained by mom Beth Twitty - he says the confession says this:

Joran's statements:

- admits taking Natalee to his HOME around 1:40 am and having sex with her repeatedly as she was in and out of consciousness (no reason given for this)

- took her back to beach where he says Kalpoe brothers took over and took turns (gang-raping) her

- ultimately they buried her body in the sand on the beach and he can point out exactly where it is (no cause of death given)

Points: can't charge rape without a victim... (?? even with confession??)
Can charge murder without body, however. (so...?)

[FarmerW]

One more thing to add...

Leaving the country for spring break is not going to Disney world. I have passed thru Cancun several times during spring break and seeing the children down there..American children, clueless.

One girl I had to give 20 dollars to settle her hotel bill or they wouldn't return her passport. I asked her about credit cards. She looked at me blankly saying, "my parents would NEVER let me have one of those.". She got to go to Mexico for a week, but can't handle a visa? Got it.

One young man, 18. Said no problem if the police stopped him for anything. He would just demand to call the embassy until they give him his 'guaranteed one phone call " and the embassy would take care of him. I tried to inform him he had no such right as he was in another country. He was positive all his American rights traveled with him.

Several young ladies giggled as they got a tattooed on the beach.

Parents need to be educated on what leaving American means.

[MarMema]

Amsterdam is one of the dirtiest and ugliest airports I have ever been in. Just FYI..