"Towards the end of Day 2, people were in the streets, curious to see the destruction."
Posted on 09/10/2005 10:34:29 AM PDT by Miss Marple
While cable news and the networks have concentrated their criticism on FEMA for the most part, I thought it would be helpful to concentrate our attention on the state and local actions during Hurrican Katrina and the subsequent flooding of New Orleans.
To that end, I have assembled a collection of links which document the lack of action by the state and local authorities, as well as some deliberate efforts to obstruct federal action.
This thread is meant to document the actions, and not to speculate on the motives of the State of Louisiana or the City of New Orleans. I intend for this thread to be useful as a resource for Freepers as they discuss the situation with those who have been fed the MSM spin and are not aware of the facts. Clogging the thread up with speculation will not be helpful.
I MAY start a speculation thread separate from this one. But until then, on this thread, let's stick to the facts.
Any additions of links or reports from the networks would be gratefully appreciated. Please attribute all sources and follow posting guidelines.
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NATIONAL GUARD
As detailed in these two articles, the governor was the person responsible for the few numbers of guardsmen deployed. She refused to sign the paperwork that would bring in guard units from other states until the Wednesday AFTER the storm.
State Rebuffed Bid to Put Louisiiana Troops Under U.S. Command Amid New Orleans Chaos
DENIAL OF ACCESS TO RELIEF AGENCIES
In addition to the low numbers of National Guard troops activated, relief agencies were denied access to New Orleans by the Louisiana authorities. The following articles explain why we saw no Red Cross, Salvation Army, or other groups on the scene.
FNC's Major Garrett: Red Cross Blocked by Order of the Louisiana State Government
Major Garret new blockbuster---Salvation Army efforts at supplying the evacuees BLOCKED
Louisiana officials accused of blocking rescue volunteers
I would appreciate whatever links anyone has being added to this thread, so that we can consolidate all of the information in one place.
I would also like it if non-working links (of which I hope there are non) are pointed out so that they can be fixed.
Good post. Great work. Thank you.
Post your links here. I have to shut down and de-frag. I will be back after while.
What about the Gretna Sheriff blocking the Crescent City Bridge thereby trapping the people in New Orleans?
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There are several similar timeline threads.
Look for 'timeline' under the search feature on FR.
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| Posted by IM2MAD On News/Activism 09/08/2005 10:59:54 PM CDT · 7 replies · 380+ views It occurs to me that we need a Katrina timeline in spreadsheet form to track who said/did what when. As I visualize it, it would have the first column with the date and subsequent column headings of something like White House, Nagin, Blanco, LA Nat Guard, US Nat Guard, FEMA and so on. I think this would be useful in pointing out to everyone what actions were taken when and by whose authority. Perhaps even quote the LA disaster plan at the head of the chart to point it out to anyone who is not aware of it. Unfortunately, I've... |
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| Posted by Wolfstar On News/Activism 09/06/2005 10:45:18 PM CDT · 464 replies · 24,340+ views Yahoo News Photos ^ | 9/6/05 The near total evacuation of the major American port city of New Orleans, Louisiana was accomplished between Tuesday afternoon, August 30 and Friday afternoon, September 2, 2005. This evacuation occurred while other search, rescue, relief and evacuation operations were simultaneously being conducted throughout the Gulf Coast between approximately Lafayette, Louisiana, on the west and the Florida panhandle on the east -– an area of about 90,000 sq. miles, or the size of the entire nation of Great Britain. I'd say this amazing achievement is the opposite of slow. I'd say that it's a stunning accomplishment and one that demonstrates superb... |
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| Posted by airedale On News/Activism 09/04/2005 4:30:29 PM CDT · 17 replies · 1,417+ views American Daughter website ^ | Virginia Doctor [Virginia Doctor] has compiled a wealth of source material on the Katrina hurricane disaster, showing clearly that the blame for the terrible aftermath lies squarely at the doorsteps of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin (Democrat) and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco (Democrat). We have itemized the important events along Katrina's timeline. Has lots of links to the source material. The homepage of this website has a lot of other good info: http://www.americandaughter.com I was also able to find at this site NOAA's Katrina Graphics Archive though this site. This website is: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov |
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| Posted by coffee260 On News/Activism 09/04/2005 3:00:05 PM CDT · 85 replies · 7,408+ views RightWingNuthouse ^ | September 04, 2005 | Rick Moran The following is a timeline that details the response of local, state, and federal authorities to the disaster in New Orleans. I have not included any information for other areas hit by the storm. I used one source almost exclusively – the online editions of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (hereinafter referred to as TP). I daresay the paper will receive a Pulitzer Prize for their coverage. IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO PLAY THE “BLAME GAME” BY PUBLISHING THIS TIMELINE.. In fact, if you have a link to a story that contradicts or adds to this timeline, I urge you... |
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| Posted by Tall_Texan On News/Activism 09/04/2005 11:49:50 AM CDT · 28 replies · 1,330+ views National Guard Bureau ^ | 09-03-05 | Associated Press Sep 3, 4:57 PM (ET) By The Associated Press A day-by-day look at when National Guard troops from around the country arrived in Louisiana and Mississippi, the two states hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina: TUESDAY, Aug. 30: In Louisiana: - 4,725, all from Louisiana In Mississippi: - 2,747, all from Mississippi WEDNESDAY, Aug. 31: In Louisiana: - Ohio: nine - Oklahoma: 89 - Texas: 625 In Mississippi: Arkansas: 350 Delaware : 68 Florida: 350 Maryland: 130 THURSDAY, Sept. 1: In Louisiana: Arkansas: 446 Colorado: 4 Kansas: 12 Missouri: 40 Nevada: 12 Ohio: 210 Oklahoma: 283 Texas: 972 In Mississippi: Alabama:... |
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| Posted by Wolfstar On News/Activism 09/03/2005 10:44:11 PM CDT · 335 replies · 7,392+ views White House.gov; multiple news & other sources ^ | 9/3/05 After days of being harrangued by media reports to the contrary, this may seem like a radical notion, but... THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO KATRINA WAS NOT SLOW!FACT: Coast Guard, U.S. Navy and other search and rescue units were in New Orleans, elsewhere in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama on Monday, after the storm passed out of the area. FACT: The full extent of the devastation to the Gulf Coast region, and the levee breaches in New Orleans, were not known until Tuesday. FACT: A convoy of about 500 buses reached the Superdome late Wednesday. FACT: The first of 500 busloads... |
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| Posted by rhetorica On News/Activism 09/03/2005 10:03:04 AM CDT · 45 replies · 1,097+ views OK folks, let's get this thing under control. We need to build a timeline of (1) events relating to Katrina (e.g. landfall, levee breeches, flooding, etc)(2)events relating to LA, MS and AL and Fed government responses to Katrina (e.g. evacuation orders, activating guard, etc) (3) events as reported by major media outlets (e.g. hurrincane hits and misses, breeches, flooding, evacualtions, looting, etc.) Let's see if we can put a timeline together that chronicles all these events. I am willing to assemble all the information if Freepers will help me locate the evidence. It will be very important that we have... |
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BTTT! Great work!
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Major FYI ping to starting a thread series, that needs to be documented and readily accessible to those who can get it out around the nation.
A BTTT thanks
Katrina timeline in spreadsheet form needed. ^
Posted by IM2MAD
On News/Activism ^ 09/08/2005 10:59:54 PM CDT · 7 replies · 380+ views
It occurs to me that we need a Katrina timeline in spreadsheet form to track who said/did what when. As I visualize it, it would have the first column with the date and subsequent column headings of something like White House, Nagin, Blanco, LA Nat Guard, US Nat Guard, FEMA and so on. I think this would be useful in pointing out to everyone what actions were taken when and by whose authority. Perhaps even quote the LA disaster plan at the head of the chart to point it out to anyone who is not aware of it. Unfortunately, I've...
Katrina, a photographic timeline: Powerful proof federal response was NOT slow (warning, many pics) ^
Posted by Wolfstar
On News/Activism ^ 09/06/2005 10:45:18 PM CDT · 464 replies · 24,341+ views
Yahoo News Photos ^ | 9/6/05
The near total evacuation of the major American port city of New Orleans, Louisiana was accomplished between Tuesday afternoon, August 30 and Friday afternoon, September 2, 2005. This evacuation occurred while other search, rescue, relief and evacuation operations were simultaneously being conducted throughout the Gulf Coast between approximately Lafayette, Louisiana, on the west and the Florida panhandle on the east -– an area of about 90,000 sq. miles, or the size of the entire nation of Great Britain. I'd say this amazing achievement is the opposite of slow. I'd say that it's a stunning accomplishment and one that demonstrates superb...
Katrinia Timeline with links ^
Posted by airedale
On News/Activism ^ 09/04/2005 4:30:29 PM CDT · 17 replies · 1,417+ views
American Daughter website ^ | Virginia Doctor
[Virginia Doctor] has compiled a wealth of source material on the Katrina hurricane disaster, showing clearly that the blame for the terrible aftermath lies squarely at the doorsteps of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin (Democrat) and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco (Democrat). We have itemized the important events along Katrina's timeline. Has lots of links to the source material. The homepage of this website has a lot of other good info: http://www.americandaughter.com I was also able to find at this site NOAA's Katrina Graphics Archive though this site. This website is: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov
KATRINA: RESPONSE TIMELINE ^
Posted by coffee260
On News/Activism ^ 09/04/2005 3:00:05 PM CDT · 85 replies · 7,408+ views
RightWingNuthouse ^ | September 04, 2005 | Rick Moran
The following is a timeline that details the response of local, state, and federal authorities to the disaster in New Orleans. I have not included any information for other areas hit by the storm. I used one source almost exclusively – the online editions of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (hereinafter referred to as TP). I daresay the paper will receive a Pulitzer Prize for their coverage. IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO PLAY THE “BLAME GAME” BY PUBLISHING THIS TIMELINE.. In fact, if you have a link to a story that contradicts or adds to this timeline, I urge you...
Glance at National Guard Deployment (Katrina Timeline) ^
Posted by Tall_Texan
On News/Activism ^ 09/04/2005 11:49:50 AM CDT · 28 replies · 1,330+ views
National Guard Bureau ^ | 09-03-05 | Associated Press
Sep 3, 4:57 PM (ET) By The Associated Press A day-by-day look at when National Guard troops from around the country arrived in Louisiana and Mississippi, the two states hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina: TUESDAY, Aug. 30: In Louisiana: - 4,725, all from Louisiana In Mississippi: - 2,747, all from Mississippi WEDNESDAY, Aug. 31: In Louisiana: - Ohio: nine - Oklahoma: 89 - Texas: 625 In Mississippi: Arkansas: 350 Delaware : 68 Florida: 350 Maryland: 130 THURSDAY, Sept. 1: In Louisiana: Arkansas: 446 Colorado: 4 Kansas: 12 Missouri: 40 Nevada: 12 Ohio: 210 Oklahoma: 283 Texas: 972 In Mississippi: Alabama:...
Katrina: A timeline -- proof the Federal response was NOT SLOW ^
Posted by Wolfstar
On News/Activism ^ 09/03/2005 10:44:11 PM CDT · 335 replies · 7,392+ views
White House.gov; multiple news & other sources ^ | 9/3/05
After days of being harrangued by media reports to the contrary, this may seem like a radical notion, but... THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO KATRINA WAS NOT SLOW!FACT: Coast Guard, U.S. Navy and other search and rescue units were in New Orleans, elsewhere in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama on Monday, after the storm passed out of the area. FACT: The full extent of the devastation to the Gulf Coast region, and the levee breaches in New Orleans, were not known until Tuesday. FACT: A convoy of about 500 buses reached the Superdome late Wednesday. FACT: The first of 500 busloads...
Let's put together a timeline ^
Posted by rhetorica
On News/Activism ^ 09/03/2005 10:03:04 AM CDT · 45 replies · 1,097+ views
OK folks, let's get this thing under control. We need to build a timeline of (1) events relating to Katrina (e.g. landfall, levee breeches, flooding, etc)(2)events relating to LA, MS and AL and Fed government responses to Katrina (e.g. evacuation orders, activating guard, etc) (3) events as reported by major media outlets (e.g. hurrincane hits and misses, breeches, flooding, evacualtions, looting, etc.) Let's see if we can put a timeline together that chronicles all these events. I am willing to assemble all the information if Freepers will help me locate the evidence. It will be very important that we have...
Well we posted the same thing.... lol
A double dose ought to make things better....
Thanks for posting this. We need it all in one place like this.
New Orleans ignored its own plans
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050909-121037-6314r.htm
Very good, consice report on Blanco and Nagin
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There is an audio of a Red Cross spokesperson on the Diane Rehm Show on NPR on Wed., Sept. 7.
http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/05/09/07.php
The statement from the Red Cross is approximately 3/4 of the way through the program.
The Red Cross web site also had a statement about it, but I can't find it right now. They change their pages often.
Thank you, MM.
and, BUMP for reference
Thanks, for the post. :)
Great job, thanks.
This is a good source for MSM types who might want to know the truth. I would hope that a few congressional investigators would take a look too.
"The Red Cross web site also had a statement about it, but I can't find it right now. They change their pages often."
From the current homepage on http://www.redcross.org/; then in the right-hand side (Red Cross Responds to Katrina), then down to "New Orleans Situation". Click on that and you get (I haven't been able to find a date on this):
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html
Disaster FAQs
Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?
Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?
• Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.
• The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.
• The Red Cross has been meeting the needs of thousands of New Orleans residents in some 90 shelters throughout the state of Louisiana and elsewhere since before landfall. All told, the Red Cross is today operating 149 shelters for almost 93,000 residents.
• The Red Cross shares the nation’s anguish over the worsening situation inside the city. We will continue to work under the direction of the military, state and local authorities and to focus all our efforts on our lifesaving mission of feeding and sheltering.
• The Red Cross does not conduct search and rescue operations. We are an organization of civilian volunteers and cannot get relief aid into any location until the local authorities say it is safe and provide us with security and access.
• The original plan was to evacuate all the residents of New Orleans to safe places outside the city. With the hurricane bearing down, the city government decided to open a shelter of last resort in the Superdome downtown. We applaud this decision and believe it saved a significant number of lives.
• As the remaining people are evacuated from New Orleans, the most appropriate role for the Red Cross is to provide a safe place for people to stay and to see that their emergency needs are met. We are fully staffed and equipped to handle these individuals once they are evacuated.
Thanks
The southern libs think they're still running a plantation for slaves.
Start about 5 years back, before this hurricane. Apparently there is some missing FEMA money, that was earmarked for hurricane related projects.
I regard that account by supposed CA paramedics as highly suspect. If you understand that most of the problems we have seen were caused, at the root, by people who decided not to obey evacuation order, I, for one, would not expect professional first responders to ignore such orders. I would expect them, better than most, to respect it knowing the essential need for cooperation in emergencies. And, if they did gt in a mess, I wouldn't expect them to publicize it in a communist anti law enforcement rant about class etc.
Outstanding, Miss Marple. I was just about to start the Day in the life of... thread for today. I'll put a link of this thread there.
Thanks, TomGuy. I was going to add the links to the two timelines I did, but appreciate you doing so.
Which would be...what? 0.00000001% of the MSM?
Yeah, so I'm an optimist...
IEM to Lead Development of Hurricane Plan for Louisiana June 9, 2004
IEM Inc., a Baton Rouge, La.-based emergency management and homeland security consultant, announced it will lead the development of a catastrophic hurricane disaster plan for Southeast Louisiana and the City of New Orleans under a more than half a million dollar contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security/Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
In making the announcement today on behalf of teaming partners Dewberry, URS Corporation and James Lee Witt Associates, IEM Director of Homeland Security Wayne Thomas explained that the development of a base catastrophic hurricane disaster plan has urgency due to the recent start of the annual hurricane season which runs through November. National weather experts are predicting an above normal Atlantic hurricane season with six to eight hurricanes, of which three could be categorized as major.
Witt was involved in drawing up the plans that were ignored by the local authorities to evac the city. They got paid by FEMA for those plans.
Remember, once in a while, they get it right. Honest!
This aspect got lost in some of the larger threads, and after the situation progressed I realized that we needed a quick way to refute the democrats who are looking to dump all the blame on Brown and Bush.
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This is a post from a fellow over in Merritt Is, FL, a reporter who's been researching what went on before the storm hit. His post is: CLICKPolitics over duty
I think all of Nagin's (NO's mayor) pomp and posturing is going to bite him hard in the near future as the lies and distortions of his interviews are coming to light.
On Friday night before the storm hit Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of NO and they said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.
President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.
Saturday before the storm hit the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster.
Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to NO for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding as we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning - though the document implies that they were.
The suffering people of NO need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.
This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.
I don't know if you have this yet, but:
Despite Landrieu's complaints of budget cuts and paltry funding, the fact is that over the five years of the Bush administration, Louisiana has received more money — $1.9 billion — for Army Corps of Engineers civil works projects than any other state, and more than under any other administration over a similar period. California is a distant second with less than $1.4 billion despite a population more than seven times as large.
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The problem was at the local level. The ambitious plan fell apart when the state suspended the Levee Board's ability to refinance old bonds and issue new ones. As the Times-Picayune reported, Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle "repeatedly faulted the Levee Board for the way it awards contracts, spends money and ignores no-bid contract laws." Blocked by the state from raising local money, the federal matching funds went unspent. By 1998, Louisiana's state government had a $2 billion construction budget, but less than one-tenth of one percent, or $1.98 million, was dedicated to New Orleans levee improvements. By contrast, $22 million was spent that year to renovate a home for the Louisiana Supreme Court.
Investors Business Daily
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1481760/posts
Yeah...then they pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and carry on lying like they always do.
Ping..you gotta check out this photo gallery
Bump for later...
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