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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe

 To view all related posts, use the "keyword database"--
 Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
 Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
And a special hattip to our own  NautiNurse  who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
 I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
MSM: Take Note - Clinton's Contribution to the Katrina Disaster ( Must Read )
 The Federal Register ^
 People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
 Bill Clinton did not sign for the improvements & money requested by the Army Corp of Engineers & LA to make them. Source: 
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
 There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
Critics Say Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control -- Hint to the Liberals --This is NOT a road you want to go down --Shall we open up the books to the BILLIONS of dollars that was sent to NO and what happened to it all?
 Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
 The Lost City of New Orleans? (Dec 2000)
 NASA Flooding Simulation
 2004 Amazingly Precise Prediction of New Orleans Disaster -- This was entirely predictable and inevitable to anyone who has followed the issue.
  Click on the thumbnail to open full picture in a new window.

This is a 1998 modelling of a CAT 4 or CAT 5 moving through New Orleans-- Here is what they predicted for flooding....

 Apocalypse Live (Description of a category 4 or 5 hurricane from three weeks ago)

 Gone with the Water -- Published last fall - eerie... 

 Drowning New Orleans -- Scientific American ^ | October 2001 |

 From Jeff Master's weather blog on
"I'd hate to be an Emergency Management official in New Orleans right now. Katrina is pretty much following the NHC forecast, and appears likely to pass VERY close to New Orleans. I'm surprised they haven't ordered an evacuation of the city yet. While the odds of a catastropic hit that would completely flood the city of New Orleans are probably 10%, that is way too high in my opinion to justify leaving the people in the city. -- posted on 08/27/2005 8:04:52 PM EDT

Here are the pictures:
  has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
 Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
 Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links  I have culled since this story broke:
New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes (Blanco gives shoot to kill order?) -- Wow!
When guns are outlawed, only the government and outlaws will have guns.
 Tourists Realize They're Afterthought, Band Together
 New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor,  the mayor and police chief  the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
 Instant Haiti.
 Water May Linger for Months (New Orleans, "Gone With the Wind?"
 Levee repair work has yet to begin (Another Levee Break - 700ft wide NOLA will take 3-6 mos to dry) -- Would the last person to swim out of NOLA please bring the flag?
 NOLAntis. The Lost City.

  Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes -- Politicizing a tragedy? No, teaching valuable lessons, if they dare.
 Ted Koppel blames Bush for failure to evacuate poor prior to the Katrina hitting New Orleans -- Dateline pretty much did the same thing. ABC has a Meme and it is the new strategy of the Left... use the disaster to crucify the President.
It is obscene.
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
 The Great Society our welfare System has Created.

 Gasoline Prices & Katrina

 Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy

Don't blame Katrina
 Ford blasts Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina -- The Governor of LA is supposed to be coordinating with FEMA, isn't she?
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
 You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
Rebuilding New Orleans doesn't make sense
 New Orleans, the Tragedy -- This is the article from which Rush quoted in the first hour of his show today.
 Shephard Smith "Grandstanding" in New Orleans, showing dead bodies on Fox News. -- "Personally, I don't think the networks should have 'saved us' from the horrors of 9-11 as they did. Perhaps if the reality of that situation had been known then people wouldn't have so easily forgotten."
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
 The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.

The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.

The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.

The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.

Millions of idiots can't be wrong.

 Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.

 Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things

Thought-provoking opinion:
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
 Read this great rant from Pukin Dog then, no typing required --
 Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.

 Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.

  Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!

Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
3,827 posted on 08/31/2005 2:12:02 AM EDT by steveegg
 Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph (Mayor irresponsible in evac delay) -- To: Howlin
For future reference, this repeated line by the mayor and governor that "We went to bed Friday night being told it was a Florida storm, and woke up Saturday to find us threatened" to excuse why they waited so long to start the evacuation plan is total bullshit. (excuse my French)

Friday 4pm NO time report from the NWS, warns of a significant shift west, Mississippi landfall (88.5 on the grid, NO is 90), and possible more movement expected (post #388):

By at least Friday 6pm computer models were converging on LA (post #478):

Turns out those computer models had been run at 2pm (post #526):

In fact some computer models run at 7am NO time Friday had predicted a NO hit(post #224):

So unless the gov and mayor went to bed Friday afternoon, they knew then that it likely was headed their way.
 I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this?  Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
 Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Two
 Emergency Kit

Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)

(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)

• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.

There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.

Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB

4,210 posted on 09/01/2005 1:37:35 PM EDT by Stand Watch Listen
 Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backhoe; frlibrarians; hurricanekatrina; katrina
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1 posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:57 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thanks for this. Bookmarking for future reference.

2 posted on 09/02/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: backhoe

Thank you backhoe.

3 posted on 09/02/2005 3:49:53 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; looney tune
Thanks for stopping by-- here is a little more:

 Bottled-Up River Prevents Ships From Reaching Gulf (rail, truck, barge - diverting to new ports)
 Listen to Mayor Nagin of N.O. go *nuts* in New Orleans radio interview -- Sounds like the corruption of the government in the city is coming home to roost...  Nagin.mp3 ... He sounds like a complete idiot, all talking points with no solutions.
 Trying to survive, while others binge (police agencies in tatters)
 Hunger and rage (American city becomes a Third World nightmare) ... Little Somalia ... I watched some of the news yesterday for the first time as what stuck me was the HUGE difference in how the leadership and people of New York reponded to 911, and how the leadership and people of New Orleans responded to Katrina. New Yorkers were tough, determined, resolved, didn't loot, helped others, didn't complain, whine, sit around like helpless babies, expecting 'gubmint' to do everything...
 Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board - Bill S517 (Too late for Katrina)
 Nothing's Easy for New Orleans Flood Control
 QUICK LOOK REPORT: Gasoline Delivery System

I suppose I should add this, since it is related:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:

4 posted on 09/02/2005 4:01:53 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thank you for your dedication to archiving this. The timeline is particularly valuable.

5 posted on 09/02/2005 4:06:03 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: backhoe

Excellent backhoe! Thank you. :)

6 posted on 09/02/2005 4:06:24 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: backhoe

Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.

7 posted on 09/02/2005 4:15:36 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Peach; Ros42

Appreciate the kind words- thanks for stopping by.

8 posted on 09/02/2005 4:17:17 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: looney tune
Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.

I know what you mean-- my truck, and Mrs. B's little buzz bomb needed gas yesterday, and I thought I was going to have to go down to the bank and take out a loan to pay for it. At least I was able to get gas-- the day before that stupid "gas panic" hit Georgia, and there were lines, standing room only, and angry drivers everywhere.

A sign in Atlanta:

9 posted on 09/02/2005 4:22:35 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Government Saw Flood Risk but Not Levee Failure

10 posted on 09/02/2005 4:28:51 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Did you check out the first two links in your post? The Federal Register refered to is -

[Federal Register: June 23, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)]
[Page 34151-34153]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access []

"Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the West Shore--Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, Hurricane Protection Feasibility Study"

How does this as a "matter of fact" reflect on Clinton?

11 posted on 09/02/2005 5:48:58 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night.

12 posted on 09/02/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night."

Try this
EPA: Federal Register: Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental ...
... 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)] [Notices] [Page 34151-34153] From the Federal
Register Online via GPO Access [] ****[DOCID:fr23jn98-32]**** ...

13 posted on 09/02/2005 10:01:36 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

Thanks, that's even stranger- the document I saw early this morning was a stullifyingly huge black & white page with no graphics and TT ( typewriter ) font.

14 posted on 09/02/2005 10:56:08 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Peach

 Check out evacuation instructions from NOLA website


15 posted on 09/02/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thank you so much, backhoe.

16 posted on 09/02/2005 11:05:58 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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 Hurricane Katrina: Who's to Blame?
 National Hurricane Center predicted New Orleans in trouble Friday before storm. Where was the Mayor? -- People get the government they deserve. Citizens of NO - this is what happens when you vote gangsters into office.
 A national disgrace -- "At all levels, government is overbearing and nagging, paying for people's prescription drugs and telling us whether we can smoke in restaurants or not. But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most.""Keep that in mind and buy a gun, just in case."
 The Doomed Cities
 The State and the Flood
 If You Ain't Been to Heaven Then You Ain't Been There
 Mess on the Mississippi -- the surrounding nub of land around the last 20 miles of the rivers, known colloquially as the "crow's foot," was decimated by the storm.
 An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State -- "There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves."
 A Colossal Failure of Leadership (Leftist hate alert) -- President Bush has stepped into the breach after the failure of the democRAT mayor of N.O. and the democRAT governor of LA.
 New Orleans refugees bitter after Katrina ordeal -- "This is a prime example of what happens when a country has generation after generation after generation of people on welfare. Its not "how can I help myself or my family" its "what is the government going to give me and when will I get it?" mentality."
 Experts: Global Warming Didn't Cause Katrina

 (using buses) Galveston creates evacuation plan --- WHY DIDN'T NEW ORLEANS OFFICIALS DO THIS?


 Mayor Nagin - Drug Addicts Have Taken Over New Orleans -- He and the dim bulb governor will be forever known as the two boobs that destroyed New Orleans, and ten's of thousands of lives along with it. -- Mayor Nagin Curses Gov. Blanco, Pres. Bush -- When you give fools the right to vote --- they elect idiots.

 Cause of the Disaster: The People of New Orleans

 Note the real title for the article: Bush budget not expected to diminish New Orleans district's $65M -- FLASHBACK: Bush refused to fund New Orleans flood and hurricane protection last February

 10 ways you can help disaster victims

 Katrina Refugee: I could never have imagined this!

 FEMA’s Plan for Mass Destruction Attacks: Of Course It’s True

 WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES, MAYOR?... New Orleans Lost Opportunity 


 Air America caller from N.O. blasts N.O. mayor and Governor (Caller was Julia Reed) -- "Desperate people" replied Maddow -- No, "lawbreakers," said Reed.  Reed referred to Nagin's "send greyhound buses" speech as "ridiculous political posturing... hardly what I'd call leadership'
She says that Nagin has lost control of the city, and Blanco has lost control of the state

17 posted on 09/02/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Excellent post. Thanks.

18 posted on 09/02/2005 1:31:08 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Born Conservative; All
Thanks for looking- here's a little more:

 1 YEAR AGO "Ivan exposes flaws in N.O.'s disaster plans" Mayor & Gov. fail to learn lesson
 Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
 "It took four days for FEMA to get its first people into South Florida after Andrew"
 They saw it coming(no blame but its Bushs fault)
 Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
 It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
 "The Begining of Our Nightmare" -- Personal Account from New Orleans **It's worse than you think!** -- The email-writer easily saw what MSM seems to be missing--the mayor, governor, and Sen. Landrieu need to go, and quickly. I wasn't aware they were standing in the way of aid, but if true, it wouldn't surprise me.
 Mark Steyn on Hugh Hewitt Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Robert Kaplan, when he talks about what's happened in failed West African states, calls it the re-primitivation of man. And that's actually what we're seeing in New Orleans.  It's the best commercial for owning a gun I've ever seen.
 Republicans Ask Guiliani to guide Relief effort -- Finally. I can't take many more appearances by Ms. Governor or Mayor Hate-Whitey or Senator Ima Bitch-Landrieu.
These clowns need to be sent packing and someone who is effective needs to take charge
 Canoe and a gun get duo to safety (escape from NO) -- Earlier today, a man came up to me. I think he wanted the canoe. He saw I was armed and gave up.
 Second Amendment. Learn it, live it, love it.
 Project 21 Responds to Black Caucus Criticism of Hurricane Katrina Relief Efforts
 This all falls on the Governor, Not the Mayor or The President
 Breaks in the Levee Logic

19 posted on 09/02/2005 3:58:59 PM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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 It's finally hit.."Why didn't you deploy the buses, Mr. Mayor??"
 Bush Admits Katrina Response 'Not Enough' -- God DA** them. The AP is OUT RIGHT LYING. He did NOT say ANY of this. HE has NO such authority. The STATE GOV has to send in the Guard HE CANNOT.
 UNBELIEVABLE! CNN's Cafferty suggesting that Bush withheld hurricane aid to get a photo-op!
 Governors Guide to Emergency Management
 Many More Hurricanes to Come
 Live survival blog in New Orleans
 Guardsmen Greeted With Applause, Anger - "The cavalry is and will continue to arrive"

20 posted on 09/02/2005 4:50:27 PM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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 A Little Bit Of Good News In The Aftermath Of Hurricane Katrina (GULFPORT, MS)
 New Orleans is now a ghost city

A combination of satellite images shows an overview of New Orleans before (L) and after Hurricane Katrina. The image at left was taken on March 9th, 2004 and the image at right on August 31st, 2005 after Katrina struck the city. REUTERS/Digital Globe
 Who's to Blame? Let's ask Mayor Nagin about this:
 Michael D. Brown (Fema Honcho LA) -- The federal government may not intervene until asked by the governor. She split, and left the people in NO to swim.
Thank God President Bush moved in. Finally, some one is doing something to organize that mess down there. It's a heavily democrat state, yet there's not one democrat politician down there doing anything. The Republicans are down there straightening things up, and it's not even their job--When Florida gets it, it's always Jebs fault when someone gets hurt. Now that a democrat governor fails, it's the presidents fault?
 Observations on the decent, the dire and the despicable [In the Wake of Hurricane Katrina]
 LOUISIANA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD - what did Gov. Blanco do and not do?
 FOXNEWS: Mayor Nagin intervened to help tourists escape New Orleans before people in Superdome
 Drowning New Orleans (It was inevitable)
prepared for a hurricane, what about a terrorist attack? [ 1, 2 ]
I've had several requests to post the emergency preparedness information. Here is the post I created after 9/11.

Emergency Preparedness (year's supply of food, 72 hour kit)

There is also more detailed information at this website.

Food Storage and Emergency Preparation

I think looking at everything is overwhelming. But we can all start small and work up. I'm still working on being physically, emotionally, and financially prepared for anything. It is a lifelong pursuit. I'll quit preaching now...

281 posted on 09/03/2005 1:15:03 AM EDT by Utah Girl
 Kanye West Ruins Relief Show (UNBELIEVABLE!!) -- I see only predominately "WHITE" faces going in to rescue and help the predominately Black victims.
 Police, residents loot New Orleans stores after storm -- Thugs and cowards, not the looters but 33 percent of the NO police force that ran... Undocumented consumers." Calling someone a "looter" is just so harsh.
 Troops Bring Food, Medicine to New Orleans -- "What took you so long," huh? Ingrates should be the last to get anything from anyone. The entire episode is sickening.
 New Orleans: The Nanny State’s Bitter Fruit -- "Welcome to Texas. Now sit down and listen up! This is how it is. We don't put up with that sh*t they let you get away with in N.O."
 Superdome evacuee: 'Worst night of my life' -- "Janice Singleton, a worker at the Superdome, said she
got stuck in the stadium when the storm hit. She
said she was robbed of everything she had with her,
including her shoes. "They tore that dome apart," she said sadly. "They tore it
down. They taking everything out of there they can
 The Left Descend Into Madness -- It's BS that they were too poor to get out. Walkin' is free. Exceptin the aged and infirm who were left by their "community", their mayor and governor for the buzzards.
 Hastert Tries Damage Control After Remarks Hit a Nerve (Clinton says he would have attacked him) -- This is why folks are aiming so much fury at Hastert, so that folks won't consider this obvious fact. NO may not be worth saving.

21 posted on 09/03/2005 1:52:54 AM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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 Here are some useful links for freeper research and study:

City of New Orleans Disaster Plan Hurricane Annex

State of Louisiana Federal Response Plan

State of Louisiana Emergency Operations Plan
Evacuation complete, Superdome lies in squalor
 Murder and Mayhem in New Orlean's Miserable Shelter: Lessons from the Dome -- After witnessing the gangsters running wild in New Orleans, I will be buying a shotgun. Riots could break out for any number of reasons.
We see now what "Lord of the Flies" is really like. Even if you do not live in a big city, you need to arm yourselves. If ever you doubt that, play a tape of that New Orleans film footage over and over, and read about the rapes and the murders.
 Corps making strides plugging levees
 New Mayor Candidate for New Orleans
 Radio host urges poor to loot

22 posted on 09/03/2005 3:47:51 AM PDT by backhoe
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I don't know if anyone has done this yet, but here are some satellite pictures of unused buses in New Orleans:,-90.038&spn=0.004,0.01&t=e,-90.047&spn=0.00406,0.0101&t=e

It makes me want to scream. These are just some of the buses I found in 15 minutes searched the google maps (they have added the Katrina images). You can click on satellite instead of Katrina to show that probably 95% of the buses remained after Katrina hit. There are undoubtedly many more buses left in New Orleans.
3,022 posted on 09/03/2005 6:54:40 AM EDT by burzum

23 posted on 09/03/2005 4:11:19 AM PDT by backhoe
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Pseudo Leadership and Black Groupthink(repost)

24 posted on 09/03/2005 4:46:15 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Hard Task of Draining New Orleans  

 Wexler (D): Bush Administration's Response to Hurricane Katrina a Disgrace

25 posted on 09/03/2005 5:16:11 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Warehouse Fire NO 09/03/05 AM
 Police and Owners Begin to Challenge Looters (NY Times reports on gun used in self defense) -- It was a short two days ago when the city was asking everyone to turn in their weapons. Imagine, just imagine the result if people had complied.
 Timeto turn off the TV and computer. (vanity) -- If what our enemies right here at home are saying in the media and in Congress is any indication, this country has reached a point of angry racial and policical division that will not be reconciled anytime soon. Its looking like we may be in for a very serious fall ...maybe even confrontation.
 OK ..Now lets plan for the next time (Katrina & other disaters)
 Jobless Rate in Gulf Coast Likely to Surge
 Waterborne Diseases the Next Concern in New Orleans

26 posted on 09/03/2005 6:12:37 AM PDT by backhoe
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 NOLA levee board used funds to build a casino?
 Emergency Aid Authorized For Katrina Emergency Response In LA (BUSH ORDERED AID ON 8/27!)
 Mandatory evacuation ordered for New Orleans (Please keep this post - BUSH ORDERED EVACUATION!)
Benicia paramedic pitched in (First person account from MS -- bodies in trees and on beach) -- We wanted to assist. It was Ground Zero in a place called Hancock, Mississippi. Half the town was wiped out. They had a 50-foot wave destroy the hospital. Cars were piled on top of each other. There were bodies in the trees. There were bodies littering the beach.
 You may be interested in this excellent timeline by Freeper Pete.The Left Descend Into Madness
 Katrina's Good News Stories (that the MSM won't tell you)
 Get Off His Back
 The Watch Dogs were barking up the wrong tree.

There are armed geeks defending a building in downown NO that houses their internet hosting company

And they have a blog.

They also house the NOPD website servers, but NOPD is pretending that they are down.

 Looked at NOAA aerial photos along beach. Look at the one for Grand Isle at bridge

 "People is as people does."
Blog from NO

LGF got a mention in one of the scariest hate filled rants on the day. read the whole thing all you "little f*cktards at LGF"...


You say this isn't about politics? F*ck you, this IS politics, real time, real life politics, where the insanity of all your ideas are exposed to the world for the fraud that they are. Tax cuts kill. Ask the relatives of the dead of the Gulf Coast.

The left is really coming unglued over this one. I'm starting to worry about them.

 New Orleans crisis shames Americans [BBC lauds "genuinely heroic" Mayor] -- BBC is wrong.
Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.

 Superdome Evacuation Halted (rich people first..please.

 Breathtaking Ignorance at the Washington Post (New Orleans flooding)

 Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (Is She Qualified To Lead ?)

 Blanco buses on the BBC

 Galveston, September 1900 (Amazing quotes re: hurricane recovery -- The following links will give anyone a sense of what went on, the aftermath, the carnage, the clean up, the raising of the island some 13 feet.. 8,000 dead out of some 38,000 residents.

Photos are available at the following link

The 1900 Storm with several links

The Galveston Storm of 1900

  Let's put together a timeline

 THEY HAD A PLAN.... they just didn't use it

 Hating America, Hating Humanity

 CAGW Issues “No Pork” Challenge to Congress on Hurricane Relief

 Don't Go in the Water(LA & MS)

 What time did the 17th St. Canal Levee Breach Occur?

 (Vanity) I've had it with the blind hatred of President Bush (and all who conduct or condone it)

 Governor Jeb Bush and Mayor Rudy Giuliani versus Governor Kathleen Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin

 Any Members that are Animal Lovers and Close Enuff to Drive to LaFayette La, please read

27 posted on 09/03/2005 11:11:30 AM PDT by backhoe
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28 posted on 09/03/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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There has to be some way to follow up on this 1998 Corps of Engineers proposal. Another poster has claimed that the Clinton admin denied funding for this! He offers no proof, however. He said he heard it on a talk radio show. I would like to know the truth of the matter.


SUMMARY: The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, New Orleans District
proposes to determine the feasibility of providing protection against
hurricane-induced flooding for residents located in portions of St.
Charles, St. John the Baptist, and St. James Parishes, Louisiana. The
study area, with a population in excess of 25,000 residents, is bounded
by the Bonnet Carre Spillway to the east, the Mississippi River to the
south, Lakes Pontchartrain and Maurepas to the north, and the St.
James/Ascension Parish line to the west. There are no Federal hurricane
protection projects protecting the study area from a tidal surge coming
from Lake Pontchartrain and Maurepas. The vulnerability of the study
area to a hurricane tidal surge is demonstrated by the fact that there
are an estimated 1,000 residential structures subject to flooding from
the 25-year storm, 3,990 residential structures subject to flooding
from the 100-year storm, and 4,020 residential structures subject to
flooding from the 500-year storm.

29 posted on 09/03/2005 11:30:13 AM PDT by Deo volente
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Thank you both.

30 posted on 09/03/2005 11:41:44 AM PDT by backhoe
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 National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..."
 Let's Clear a Few Things Up
 Some fast facts about how FEMA is responding to Hurricane Katrina.
 Mississippi Gulf Coast Reeling from Hurricane Katrina From Ground Zero
 The Katrina Crisis: A hurricane produces an integrated energy disaster
 Status Reports of... Gulf Ports - Waterways - Rivers - Highways - Etc
 Salvation Army Continues With One of Largest Relief Efforts in History
 Woman on Fox has a sign: why did you leave us RAY NAGIN? Betcha CNN won't show anyone like this.
I saw an interview two days ago with someone from the projects by the French Quarter. The young man said that when it's time to vote, Nagin and his ilk were all over down there saying "Vote for us. We're homies", but that when this happened, they were nowhere to be seen, and had gotten themselves and their families out, and could've cared less about their voting base.
 A distinguished black gentleman on Fox just stated very clearly that the "blame" for this does not rest with President Bush.   Think his name is Herman Cain....
 Here is a LINK to the City of New Orleans Emergency Preparedness page titled "General Evacuation Guidelines". Check it out.

I am standing up for the President and I'm taking notes. I'm listening to Bobby Jindal and he is just another prig as far as I'm concerned. These people who claim to be for personal responsibility and self government cannot now stand up and claim that the federal government dropped the ball. FEMA did game this out in 2004 and they expected that "The state of Louisiana had resources to operate shelters for three to five days, and plans were made for how federal and other sources could replenish those."

3,607 posted on 09/03/2005 12:33:30 PM EDT by Dolphy
 Did you see these graphics of topography changes on the NASA websiteor read about the care and handling of pets during a natural disaster. Speaking of which I am going to try to maintain a thread with updates on the animal rescue work taking place in NO here for anyone who is interested.
 Social disorder? The breakdown of society as we know it? Well it seems New Orleans finest are...
 Excellent Katrina photo slideshow with 55 images:
 Anger Against State Officials

31 posted on 09/03/2005 12:33:01 PM PDT by backhoe
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 New Orleans Mayor Suggests CIA May Take Him Out Over His Criticism of Federal Efforts (CNN) -- Nagin and Blanco have both certainly lost control of both themselves and the situation.  He probably found out sometime after Bush calmed him down that the BUS PICTURE has been on Drudge's site for two days now. Quite a damning piece of evidence.

 Oil industry recovering from devastation (2 Refineries back on line w/i a week)
 Here's one link:
Emergency Kit Is First Step
 FEMA family disaster supplies kit
Hand-crank radio:
batteries or crank
led flashlight
am and 2 sw work good, fm ok
$40 at Frys
 Did you hear the phone call just on MSNBC from the lady who was just rescued today from Slidell?
It was very disturbing. (At least it will be for a lot of people when we start hearing MORE of these stories.)
The people banned together, went to a mall, lived out of the food court, formed a "semi-government/town," had rules, policed themselves. Saved themselves.
Quite unlike what happened in the SuperDome/Convention Center.

Click to watch 30 minute, low quality
11 MB .wmv of Blanco's News Conference
Sept. 3, 2005
 John Barry, author of Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 describes the epic disaster.
Complete Real Audio Interview this Page:
 "As many as 100,000 inner-city residents didn't have the means to leave and an untold number of tourists were stranded by the closing of the airport, so the city arranged buses to take people to 10 last-resort shelters, including the Superdome." Link
 Unused La. busses on Nola site
 Following is a link, from blogger GEA3, that will give you an idea how much the Clinton folks like Witt did for flood control in Louisiana. Here is a taste of what the Clinton administration did in 1995 thru 2000: US Left: All Straws Clutched, Every Barrel Scraped A sample from 1995: Clinton administration officials argue that the flood-control efforts are local projects, not national, and should be paid for by local taxes.
 I just found this story about the hijacking of gas tankers on the way to Mississippi and the possibility of having to have armed escorts --
 Bush declares emergency in Louisiana (Hurricane Katrina)

democrat, left wing poltical damage control on CNN?

Fed. Govt sent emergency supplies to Louisiana as early as Tuesday [From AP]

National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..."

The Left Descend Into Madness

French Quarter survives -- with luck and a prayer (Let's hammer the Media about the slow response) ^

This Is Why the Red Cross Was Not In New Orleans ^

Bush declares emergency in Louisiana (Hurricane Katrina) AP ^ | Aug. 27, 2005 |

Bush Urges People to Flee Hurricane (August 28th)

Ivan exposes flaws in N.O.'s disaster plans (September 19, 2004)
 The captured state
 Anarchy and agony in New Orleans (Brit students targets of racial hate in Superdome)

32 posted on 09/03/2005 3:44:13 PM PDT by backhoe
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Blanco reference links:

Blanco/Bush declares state of emergency
Blanco presser

Blanco expresses concerns

Blanco speech after storm
OEP presser

Blanco addresses Superdome condition

Blanco and Landrieu describe damage

Blanco working through extreme circumstances

Blanco speaks on 4th day of storm
 News Flash -- New Orleans Left to the Dead and Dying
 Do You Know What It Means to Lose New Orleans? (Paranoia Runs deep) -- We didn't call you Sin City. We called you Mogadishu on the Mississippi.
 Will somebody PLEASE get Guliani out front to explain who is supposed to do what in an emergency and why 9-11 went so smooth. It seems the dems are too stupid to connect the dots by themselves.
 At some point in time all of these lunatics have got to realize, as much as they hate the President and the military, it takes time to mobilize forces of the size needed to address a catastrophe of this size. It is the STATE GOVERNMENT'S responsiblity to take care of it's citizens in the meantime. The governor not allowing help in, in a timely manner and the mayor of NO not evacuating everyone in a timely manner are only the start of how these incompetent leaders failed their constituents.
The area of destruction is larger than 90,000 square miles. The entire island nation of Cuba is only 42,000 square miles.
 Left Wing moonbats still at it with Hurricane Katrina & racist conspiracies -- We need to give these people the biggest microphone we can find and just get out of the way and let them speak...
 Bob Parks interview in San Francisco Chronicle on "Looting" -- NBC live showing extensive fires in NO.
Extensive as in block after block, fully involved along the riverfront.
Could use any long range aerial stills people have, looking to see how close we are to the knuckle in the curve.

Buildings burn on the east side of New Orleans, LA., Saturday, Sept. 3, 2005.

 Kanye West: “George Bush doesn’t care about black people!”
[ Goto pageGoto page: 1 ... 3, 4, 5 ]

 An opinion piece on looters
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 Hurricane Smug slams into southern Ontario
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 Louisana's State Emergency Operations Plan (EOP)

 Bulldoze New Orleans

 Hurrican Katrina - Museums destroyed, damaged or looted.

33 posted on 09/03/2005 5:05:50 PM PDT by backhoe
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 fascinating blog chronocling the formation of Katrina and predicting the worst days before
 Replacement Pumps Don't Exist
 Agency felt New Orleans was safe for 200-300 years
 US News and World Report had an article on July 18, 2005 about the hurricane threat to NO that sends chills down my spine reading it now.
 Katrina: A timeline -- proof the Federal response was NOT SLOW
 Katrina: A timeline -- proof the Federal response was NOT SL...
 Flood of regret...waves of anger - Blueprint to save New Orleans was created but never realized
 White House Shifts Blame: Points To State, Local Officials
 Buried in the article, this from the Washington Post:
Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
 US coal reserves are over 200 years and already power over 50% of US electricity.   I remember that it was the largest field of that kind outside of Indonesia (?) before the toon federalized the land so it could not be used for mining.   Clean burning coal - as I recall, the largest supply in the world next to the one in Indonesia. As I also recall, Bubba made the US supply in Utah a Fed protected area (Nat'l park or some such - I forget the exact wording) and the one in Indonesia is/was owned by the Lippo Group (his friends and donors)
 That Trillion-Dollar Ripoff-- Clinton's Utah Coal Deal
various websites | 7-29-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
 How many could have been evacuated from New Orleans?
 (from CNN itself)
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city.
 I checked over at the archives of, to see when he reported hearing of flooding with the levees. He reported it on the 29th
 Katrina Swamps Entire LA Neighborhoods [weird time-warp news from Monday night, 8/29/05]
Associated Press ^ | August 29, 2005 | ALLEN G. BREED
 Louisiana governor hires FEMA ex-director James Lee Witt
 Their plan has always been to let the peons fend for themselves and to stick their hand out for money when it's over. It's really that brutally simple.
 IEM Team to Develop Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & SE Louisiana   June 3, 2004  ---Clinton's FEMA Director, James Lee Witt, took half a million dollars to prepare a hurricane plan for New Orleans.--- -- I will be posting some interesting FR threads about James Witt. -- -- In These Times reports, “In June 2004, FEMA privatized its hurricane disaster plan for New Orleans, contracting the work to the Baton Rouge, La., firm Innovative Emergency Management (IEM) -- Guess which other Clintoon top rat is in bed with Witt. None other than Weaslelly Clark.:
Clark, Slater working for crisis management firm of ex-FEMA director Witt ...
 You can present the best disaster plan every concocted, but if the powers that be don't implement it, it won't save one life.
 I've looked at "the plan" and its quite inadequate. But hey don't believe me, just read what those asked to implement it thought: Law Officers, Overwhelmed, Are Quitting the Force, NY Times (FR post here)
 Google Earth overlays of hurricane damage
 Bodies Are Strewn 'Like Roadkill'
 Louisiana - Hurricane devastates Plaquemines
 The Roots of Corruption: Lowering the Bar (OR WHY the N.O.P.D. has been SO DISMAL...thus far...) -- A knock-off of Drudge's site, The Dead Pelican is good to keep up with the cesspool that is La. politics.
 Katrina Evacuees Distraught Over Pets
 Human Society working to save surviving animals -- Huge high five to all their help
 Looking for advice on a gun for self defense in the case of roaming gangs of looters.
 Proof that nothing changed after Sept. 11
 Paul Williams details 'American Hiroshima'
 Gas Crunch: Some Stations Run Empty as Supplies Fall
 Panhandle getting more gas, but motorists face lines, limits
 Oil is not just for energy
 The new economy (gas,cigarettes,beer and Mississippi)
 Katrina brings death, and more liberal idiocy
 Katrina: Now It's Personal (Kim Gandy has lost it!!) The official response to Katrina from NOW
 Dysentery outbreak feared - Authorities faced a deteriorating and disturbing public health crisis
 The Lost City of New Orleans?

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The Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool

The Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool. Hundreds of buses, abandoned and unused during the evacuation, now leaking tons of diesel fuel and motor oil into the already toxic water.

Be sure to read these... 09:50 PM PDT | link: 237 comments
 Domestic nuclear attack makes Katrina look kind
 For this one, Bush deserves the heat (KATRINA IS THE 'RATS PERFECT STORM)

35 posted on 09/04/2005 5:21:37 AM PDT by backhoe
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Katrina's enablers: Levees were ignored for decades

36 posted on 09/04/2005 5:33:04 AM PDT by backhoe
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Lives now depend on sanitation, food, fuel

37 posted on 09/04/2005 5:42:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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Airlift Carries Supplies In, Brings Evacuees Out ( Largest Airlift in US History)

38 posted on 09/04/2005 5:47:56 AM PDT by backhoe
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The Anchoress Speaks

39 posted on 09/04/2005 6:09:06 AM PDT by backhoe
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The definitive list of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin's "genuinely heroic" decisions

40 posted on 09/04/2005 6:23:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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Amid rising chaos, fear spreads in rural Louisiana

41 posted on 09/04/2005 6:27:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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Time line with documentation.

Mayor and Gov had to be begged to evacuate.

much more.
87 posted on 09/04/2005 11:47:35 AM EDT by TASMANIANRED

42 posted on 09/04/2005 10:09:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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 (Vanity) Freepers lets get the facts together
 Airlift Rescues Thousands from Hurricane Stricken Areas
 Why Are Louisiana Politicians Crying Like Little Babies In Front of Microphones and Cameras?
 New Orleans district U.S. Army Corps of Engineers faces reduction - in fiscal 2006 (Ivan flashback)
 A New Low For The MSM? -- Well, the MSM is working. My mostly Republican church is rapidly turning against Bush. Just the stuff I was overhearing in the parking lot was stunning.
 U.S. vows to end New Orleans' violent crime wave
 Mississippians' suffering overshadowed
 Survival Preparedness
 Gov. Kathleen Blanco: No State of Emergency
 The Ugly Truth - Why we couldn’t save the people of New Orleans
 Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'
 Email Your Senators

43 posted on 09/04/2005 10:28:33 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Vanity -- a firsthand report from someone in New Orleans -- Here's a blogsite I came across from New Orleans. directNIC:Intercosmos
 Red Cross sets up Family Links Registry for Katrina missing . Can be used to look for a loved one, or register a missing loved one to ask for info
 THE quote of the disaster! SUPPRESSED BY ALL NEWS OUTLETS!  
 They have the video of the Nagin interviews...
 Scroll down to the middle of the page

Kuwait donates $500 mln oil products for Katrina
Qatar Offers $100 Million in Hurricane Aid
Mexico ready to send aid for Katrina relief
U.S. Asks EU, NATO for Hurricane Aid
Hastert: Rebuilding below sea level senseless

 Broussard's breakdown on Meet the Press today.
 The predatory violence and anarchy befalling New Orleans is not the result of a freak convergence of forces brought on by unnatural disaster.
 It's a warning.
 The full article is at:
 She hired Witt AGAIN? LINK: June 3, 2004: IEM Team to Develop Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana
 As was said on the other thread, that 500,000 hurricane evac plan didn't work out too well. So their response is to RE-HIRE him??
 Tumult in Gulf Region but Little Early Effect Across the Nation
 Louisiana Senator Threatens President Bush
 The Untouchable Corps
 TRUDEAUPIATE: Anarchy in N.O. is a Warning
 NOLA Warning: Thieves Pretend to be 'Procurement Officers' (FEMA Badges, Uniforms Stolen)
 My hero is a bus thief - Houston Chronicle (Priceless Photo)
 Katrina Evacuees Distraught Over Pets

44 posted on 09/04/2005 1:30:00 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Police Kill Five on La. Bridge(UPDATE CONTRACTORS WERE SHOT AT: THE NOPD shot BAD GUYS) -- "The police shot at a gang of 8 or 9 people who were themselves shooting at 14 contractors attempting to cross the bridge. No contractors were killed. 5 gang bangers were killed. This is the most decent accomplishment of the NOPD yet!"
 FEMA Knew Storm's Potential, Mayfield (Hurricane Ctr) Says
 Why Didn't Louisiana Follow it's Required Emergency Plan? -- Wonderful work! I have been looking for a single coherent list of local government failings (with timeline) to reference while arguing with Dems on other forums. Thanks for the help.
 Aug 27 WhiteHouse release of aid to Louisiana
 Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
 It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all. Katrina's timeline
 Landrieu Says State Was Prepared For Katrina - 8-28-05 -- Hey, didn't this woman just say she was going to punch Bush in the nose because New Orleans wasn't prepared?
 Not bugging out but staying and surviving
 DirectNIC Hurricane Katrina Photos
 A nice view of the famous school busses
 NY Times Calls Army Corps of Engineers $2.7 Billion Flood Control A "Boondoggle"
 Experts: Models predicted New Orleans disaster

45 posted on 09/04/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT by backhoe
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 The Bush administration sent Blanco a memorandum Friday evening requesting the federalisation of the LA NG.

Blanco -- well, her keepers at least -- turned it down.

This is all well-documented, right down to the time-stamp:

 Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.

Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.
Press Release
Date: 8/26/2005
-- it looks like what the staffer told the WaPo (if he really did say what the WaPo says he said -- and I know that is a big if), was wrong on that particular detail See Link
 Nagin and Blanco were aware, I imagine, of this study:
 Citizen Hurricane Evacuation Behavior in Southeastern Louisiana: A Twelve Parish Survey Released by The Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Taskforce  July, 2005
 Blanco Refuses White House Request For Federal Paperwork On Friday -- go to the near bottom of the Washington Post article and see how K. Blanco thought it better to avoid Martial Law declared in her state than to save the lives of her people. --and - she is advised by the law firm of Clintoon's ex, former director Witt in how to avoid a "takeover"
Hurricane Katrina: Don’t Blame Bush for Local Corruption and Democrat Incompetence --more--
 There is a thread running right now that states that most of the federal moneys allocated for levee security were redirected by the corrupt mayor and city council and used to build CASINOS!
 "The more I see, and the more I read, I am beginning to believe that BLANCO should be held CRIMINALLY responsible."
 The evident incompetence of this woman is one reason the Democrats are loudly blaming Bush.
 Bingo. The fools pi$$ed away their levee money buying everything BUT levees.
 Cached Katrina news reports BEFORE landfall (Aug 27-Aug 29) -- Thanks for putting this together. In light of the activity on Saturday the 27th, it is interesting that the New York Times ran not a single article on Hurricane Katrina the day before it struck (the 28th). This, despite the paper's editorial claim that "everyone knew [the disaster] was coming." I have the rather amusing details up on my blog.
 Katrina Live Threads, Part XV -- The good news is that this week, the conservative radio talk show hosts across the country will start getting the truth out there. They are the "ace in the hole."
 OK, I thought I was nuts but I just confirmed it with my husband and our houseguest. We live in Eastern Kansas. I grew up in Texas and I know what the gulf smells like. I smell the gulf here once or twice a year depending on the wind and the weather and tonight, I smell Katrina. It's like the gulf only wet wood, and an almost rotten smell. It's not a smell I've ever smelled here. Our houseguest is from Switzerland. He says that they get sand from the Sahara once in a while so he believes me. So if you live in the midwest, go outside and think about it. Only a barbwire fence between here and there.
 Blanco Only Asked Fed Money For 6 Shelters B4 Katrina. LA Now has over 75 Open 7 Days Later -- Coordination: $0
Technical and advisory assistance: $0
Debris removal: $0
Emergency protective measures: $ 9,000,000
Individuals and Households Program (IHP): $0
Distribution of emergency supplies: $0
Other (specify): $0

Trying to pin this on George Bush: Priceless""

U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Dan Langdon, of Bravo Company 2-4 Aviation, 4th Infantry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas, comforts a stray dog after landing his Chinook helicopter, Saturday, Sept. 4, 2005 in New Orleans. The Chinook crew is flying missions in support of relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina and was waiting to begin their next mission.

6,795 posted on 09/04/2005 7:33:56 PM EDT by BurbankKarl (u)
 He Held Their Lives in His Tiny Hands -- OK, so now we've got a 6 year old who was more resourceful and smarter than the frikin mayor.
 After the Storm blog
 "The resolution is in contrast to a recent trip by Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco to Cuba where she had a lobster dinner with Fidel Castro. Governor Blanco's meeting with Castro has come under fire by Louisianans for failing to meet with dissidents, call for democratic reforms, release of political prisoners, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights."
 Hurricane Pam Exercise Concludes
 Release Date: July 23, 2004
 A look at refugee situation around U.S.
 I am happy to see that Sheehan witch and Aruba off the air - but would suffer through Cindy witch and Aruba a thousand times over if it would mean Katrina didn't swamp the Gulf Coast as she did.
 Hurricane Relief (Astrodome Slideshow You Won't See on MSM)
 N.O. Mayor Resonsible For AT LEAST 20-30,000 Stranded Due To Failure To Issue Bus Demand
 Lack of Automobility Key to New Orleans Tragedy
 Who's Really to Blame for Katrina Chaos?

Super Typhoon Tip had a diameter of 1350 miles while Cyclone Tracy had a diameter of 30 miles. Which one would cause more damage if it hit land? I bring this point up because Hurricane Katrina was more powerful than the general definition of a Category 4 storm. In fact it was the 3rd most powerful storm to hit the US since the listings were started and the fourth storm to be recorded as a Category 5 storm (about one every 30 years on average).

(Equivalent sizes if placed over the US)

It is important to consider this when we realize that New Orleans was designed to handle a general Category 3 storm. There was no possible way it could have handled a direct hit from a general Category 4 storm. But Katrina was not a general Category 4 storm. It is also important to realize that New Orleans expected a general Category 4 storm or higher to hit on average once every 300 years. For a storm the size of Katrina, it might only hit once every 1000 years


 Seems to me that thousands of people owe their lives to the competence and compassion of President Bush.

Why Was New Orleans Evacuated?
Power Line, MN - 2 hours ago
... Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low ...
Looters Take To Streets; Martial Law Declared
New Orleans, LA - Aug 30, 2005
... Gov. Blanco said President George W. Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. ...
New Orleans Mayor Issues Evacuation Order
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Aug 28, 2005
... Blanco said President Bush called and personally appealed for the mandatory evacuation for the city, which sits below sea level.
Nightmare named Katrina bears down on New Orleans
KTBS, LA - Aug 28, 2005
... all flights. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying.

Category 5 Katrina barrels toward New Orleans

KansasCity.Com (Knight Ridder)
National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: "Get people out of New Orleans. I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation," Mayfield said. "New Orleans is never going to be the same."
 French Quarter Holdouts Create 'Tribes'
 IEM to Lead Development of Hurricane Plan for Louisiana (Well, well, well lookie here..)
 An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State -- As God is my witness, I would not have sat stranded on a concrete island for five days hopelessly waiting to die without doing anything to help myself. I really don't get how people could not care enough to want to survive.
 Nagin said slow response cost lives (Mayor Nagin slams Gov. Blanco)
 George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People ILLUSTRATED
 New Orleans Begins Counting its Dead (While Decadence Parade Held in French Quarter) -- And we are talking about rebuilding that cesspool?  Once everyone is evacuated out of N.O., I'm really hoping Mother Nature will finish it off with another hurricane. That's right folks, I'm not the least bit interested in rebuilding that cesspool...
 Is this a joke?
 Nagin to Offer Free Trips to Las Vegas for N.O. Officers -- I've been told that 2/3rds didn't show up when the Mayor put out a belated all hands on deck.  Michelle Malkin has an interview with a general who says more than two thirds deserted.
 We need one reporter to ask Nagin, "If a 16 year old who has never driven a bus could take ONE of your buses and save 75 people, why couldn't you do the same?"
 Dutch anti-flood plans to be reviewed
 Start your food storage on $10 a week
 What is the best weapon for my wife?

Grim outlook for 4 Gulf Coast refineries
 Officials: Its going to be 'ugly' --  On the seventh day, the mayor of New Orleans said he would surrender control of his shattered, nearly abandoned city --The Mayor lost control of his city the minute he chose to condone looting.
 MSM: Blamestorming Under the Radar (More proof the NYT is concerned only with blaming Bush) -- Aug. 28th, CNN: Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

46 posted on 09/05/2005 5:09:07 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Katrina: A Point by Point Refutation of the Left's Talking Points (Vanity)
47 posted on 09/05/2005 5:17:34 AM PDT by backhoe
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 What Kind of New Orleans Will Be Rebuilt?(I hope to higher ground this time.)
 The New Orleans Chaos, Ayn Rand and a Possible Atlas Shrugged Movie
 Rescuers in New Orleans encounter violence, other obstacles - drinking, looting, shooting
 No Good Deed Goes Unpunished as Today Show Now Frets Too Many Troops in New Orleans

48 posted on 09/05/2005 5:38:41 AM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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" SPEAKING TRUTH TO HYSTERIA "-- However, you all need to go back and read this admittedly lengthy post that reviews, dissects and lays out in plain English the history and steps taken by the various parties leading up to and responding to the Katrina disaster. Read it, bookmark it, print it out, have it ready to use in discussion when you talk to your liberal friends, and write your letters or emails to your newspaper and TV stations. Copy it and send it to Rush, Sean, Mark, Tony, Laura, etc.; in other words circulate it as widely as you can. --
Greg Richey
September 4, 2005
652 posted on 09/05/2005 2:27:04 AM EDT by comitatus

49 posted on 09/05/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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 Levee upgrade would of taken 20-25 years(my title)
 The Big Easy's Style Is Uniquely American(And Gone With The Wind!)

50 posted on 09/05/2005 6:14:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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