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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories
| 09-02-05
| the heavy equipment guy
Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe
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Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XIIKatrina Live Thread, Part XIKatrina Live Thread, Part XKatrina Live Thread, Part IXHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VHurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IVHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part IIIKatrina Live Thread, Part IIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
And a special hattip to our own
NautiNurse who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
Source:
People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
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Here are the pictures:
http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
Like I said, it's "Mogadishu on the Mississippi"
Hurricane Katrina Survivor Locator Boards
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links I have culled since this story broke:
New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor, the mayor and police chief the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
Instant Haiti.
NOLAntis. The Lost City.
Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)
It is obscene.
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
Gasoline Prices & Katrina
Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.
The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.
The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.
The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.
Millions of idiots can't be wrong.
Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.
Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things
Thought-provoking opinion:
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.
Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.
Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!
Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
- Sometime before 5 pm Friday,, the governor issues a state of emergency for Louisiana
- As of 10:45 pm Friday, New Orleans was simply monitoring the storm.
- At 10 pm Friday, the National Hurricane Center's 3-day track targets New Orleans for a late-afternoon Monday strike. The previous track issued at 4 pm bulls-eyed the Mississippi-Alabama line
- At 10 am Saturday, the NWS issues a hurricane watch for New Orleans.
- By 11:30 am Saturday, evacuations were ordered for parishes to the south and east of New Orleans.
- At 12:22 pm Saturday, Diddle E. Squatt points out that allowing the southern parishes to evacuate first is part of the plan.
- At 4:45 pm Saturday, the voluntary evacuation order for New Orleans is given. At this point, the NWS track shows the eye hitting about 1 pm Monday.
- At 3 am Sunday, the mayor claimed he could not make the evacuation mandatory due to a "legal technicality", and that he would order it if he could.
- At 9:25 am Sunday the evacuation became mandatory.
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I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this? Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)
(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)
• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.
There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.
Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:35:57 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thanks for this. Bookmarking for future reference.
To: backhoe
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:49:53 AM PDT
by
Cindy
To: Cindy; looney tune
Thanks for stopping by-- here is a little more:
Hunger and rage (American city becomes a Third World nightmare) ... Little Somalia ... I watched some of the news yesterday for the first time as what stuck me was the HUGE difference in how the leadership and people of New York reponded to 911, and how the leadership and people of New Orleans responded to Katrina. New Yorkers were tough, determined, resolved, didn't loot, helped others, didn't complain, whine, sit around like helpless babies, expecting 'gubmint' to do everything...
I suppose I should add this, since it is related:
Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:01:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thank you for your dedication to archiving this. The timeline is particularly valuable.
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:06:03 AM PDT
by
Peach
(South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
To: backhoe
Excellent backhoe! Thank you. :)
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:06:24 AM PDT
by
Ros42
To: backhoe
Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.
To: Peach; Ros42
Appreciate the kind words- thanks for stopping by.
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:17:17 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: looney tune
Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.I know what you mean-- my truck, and Mrs. B's little buzz bomb needed gas yesterday, and I thought I was going to have to go down to the bank and take out a loan to pay for it. At least I was able to get gas-- the day before that stupid "gas panic" hit Georgia, and there were lines, standing room only, and angry drivers everywhere.
A sign in Atlanta:
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:22:35 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:28:51 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Did you check out the first two links in your post? The Federal Register refered to is -
[Federal Register: June 23, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)]
[Notices]
[Page 34151-34153]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr23jn98-32]
"Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the West Shore--Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, Hurricane Protection Feasibility Study"
How does this as a "matter of fact" reflect on Clinton?
To: Smartaleck
What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night."
Try this
EPA: Federal Register: Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental ...
... 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)] [Notices] [Page 34151-34153] From the Federal
Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] ****[DOCID:fr23jn98-32]**** ...
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPACT/1998/June/Day-23/i16642.htm
To: Smartaleck
Thanks, that's even stranger- the document I saw early this morning was a stullifyingly huge black & white page with no graphics and TT ( typewriter ) font.
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posted on
09/02/2005 10:56:08 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: Peach
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09/02/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thank you so much, backhoe.
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posted on
09/02/2005 11:05:58 AM PDT
by
Peach
(South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
To: All
A national disgrace --
"At all levels, government is overbearing and nagging, paying for people's prescription drugs and telling us whether we can smoke in restaurants or not. But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most.""Keep that in mind and buy a gun, just in case."
Mess on the Mississippi -- the surrounding nub of land around the last 20 miles of the rivers, known colloquially as the "crow's foot," was decimated by the storm.
An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State -- "
There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves."
New Orleans refugees bitter after Katrina ordeal -- "This is a prime example of what happens when a country has generation after generation after generation of people on welfare. Its not "how can I help myself or my family" its "what is the government going to give me and when will I get it?" mentality."
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09/02/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
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posted on
09/02/2005 1:31:08 PM PDT
by
Born Conservative
("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
To: Born Conservative; All
Thanks for looking- here's a little more:
Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
Mark Steyn on Hugh Hewitt Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Robert Kaplan, when he talks about what's happened in failed West African states, calls it the re-primitivation of man. And that's actually what we're seeing in New Orleans. It's the best commercial for owning a gun I've ever seen.
Republicans Ask Guiliani to guide Relief effort -- Finally. I can't take many more appearances by Ms. Governor or Mayor Hate-Whitey or Senator Ima Bitch-Landrieu.
These clowns need to be sent packing and someone who is effective needs to take charge
Second Amendment. Learn it, live it, love it.
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:58:59 PM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:50:27 PM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
A combination of satellite images shows an overview of New Orleans before (L) and after Hurricane Katrina. The image at left was taken on March 9th, 2004 and the image at right on August 31st, 2005 after Katrina struck the city. REUTERS/Digital Globe
Thank God President Bush moved in. Finally, some one is doing something to organize that mess down there. It's a heavily democrat state, yet there's not one democrat politician down there doing anything. The Republicans are down there straightening things up, and it's not even their job--When Florida gets it, it's always Jebs fault when someone gets hurt. Now that a democrat governor fails, it's the presidents fault?
I've had several requests to post the emergency preparedness information. Here is the post I created after 9/11.
Emergency Preparedness (year's supply of food, 72 hour kit)
There is also more detailed information at this website.
Food Storage and Emergency Preparation
I think looking at everything is overwhelming. But we can all start small and work up. I'm still working on being physically, emotionally, and financially prepared for anything. It is a lifelong pursuit. I'll quit preaching now...
Superdome evacuee: 'Worst night of my life' --
"Janice Singleton, a worker at the Superdome, said she
got stuck in the stadium when the storm hit. She
said she was robbed of everything she had with her,
including her shoes. "They tore that dome apart," she said sadly. "They tore it
down. They taking everything out of there they can
take."
The Left Descend Into Madness -- It's BS that they were too poor to get out. Walkin' is free. Exceptin the aged and infirm who were left by their "community", their mayor and governor for the buzzards.
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posted on
09/03/2005 1:52:54 AM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
We see now what "Lord of the Flies" is really like. Even if you do not live in a big city, you need to arm yourselves. If ever you doubt that, play a tape of that New Orleans film footage over and over, and read about the rapes and the murders.
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09/03/2005 3:47:51 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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09/03/2005 4:11:19 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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09/03/2005 4:46:15 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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posted on
09/03/2005 5:16:11 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
Timeto turn off the TV and computer. (vanity) -- If what our enemies right here at home are saying in the media and in Congress is any indication, this country has reached a point of angry racial and policical division that will not be reconciled anytime soon. Its looking like we may be in for a very serious fall ...maybe even confrontation.
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posted on
09/03/2005 6:12:37 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
There are armed geeks defending a building in downown NO that houses their internet hosting company Directnic.com.
And they have a blog.
They also house the NOPD website servers, but NOPD is pretending that they are down.
Looked at NOAA aerial photos along beach. Look at the one for Grand Isle at bridge
"People is as people does."
Blog from NO
LGF got a mention in one of the scariest hate filled rants on the day. read the whole thing all you "little f*cktards at LGF"...
WE TOLD YOU SO
You say this isn't about politics? F*ck you, this IS politics, real time, real life politics, where the insanity of all your ideas are exposed to the world for the fraud that they are. Tax cuts kill. Ask the relatives of the dead of the Gulf Coast.
The left is really coming unglued over this one. I'm starting to worry about them.
New Orleans crisis shames Americans [BBC lauds "genuinely heroic" Mayor] -- BBC is wrong.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1476383/posts
Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.
Superdome Evacuation Halted (rich people first..please.
Breathtaking Ignorance at the Washington Post (New Orleans flooding)
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (Is She Qualified To Lead ?)
Blanco buses on the BBC
Galveston, September 1900 (Amazing quotes re: hurricane recovery -- The following links will give anyone a sense of what went on, the aftermath, the carnage, the clean up, the raising of the island some 13 feet.. 8,000 dead out of some 38,000 residents.
Photos are available at the following link
http://www.1900storm.com/photographs/index.lasso
The 1900 Storm with several links
http://www.1900storm.com/
The Galveston Storm of 1900
http://www.noaa.gov/galveston1900/
Let's put together a timeline
THEY HAD A PLAN.... they just didn't use it
Hating America, Hating Humanity
CAGW Issues “No Pork” Challenge to Congress on Hurricane Relief
Don't Go in the Water(LA & MS)
What time did the 17th St. Canal Levee Breach Occur?
(Vanity) I've had it with the blind hatred of President Bush (and all who conduct or condone it)
Governor Jeb Bush and Mayor Rudy Giuliani versus Governor Kathleen Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin
Any Members that are Animal Lovers and Close Enuff to Drive to LaFayette La, please read
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posted on
09/03/2005 11:11:30 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
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posted on
09/03/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT
by
ChadGore
(VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
To: Smartaleck; backhoe; EagleUSA
There has to be some way to follow up on this 1998 Corps of Engineers proposal. Another poster has claimed that the Clinton admin denied funding for this! He offers no proof, however. He said he heard it on a talk radio show. I would like to know the truth of the matter.
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPACT/1998/June/Day-23/i16642.htm
EXCERPT:
SUMMARY: The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, New Orleans District
proposes to determine the feasibility of providing protection against
hurricane-induced flooding for residents located in portions of St.
Charles, St. John the Baptist, and St. James Parishes, Louisiana. The
study area, with a population in excess of 25,000 residents, is bounded
by the Bonnet Carre Spillway to the east, the Mississippi River to the
south, Lakes Pontchartrain and Maurepas to the north, and the St.
James/Ascension Parish line to the west. There are no Federal hurricane
protection projects protecting the study area from a tidal surge coming
from Lake Pontchartrain and Maurepas. The vulnerability of the study
area to a hurricane tidal surge is demonstrated by the fact that there
are an estimated 1,000 residential structures subject to flooding from
the 25-year storm, 3,990 residential structures subject to flooding
from the 100-year storm, and 4,020 residential structures subject to
flooding from the 500-year storm.
To: Deo volente; ChadGore
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posted on
09/03/2005 11:41:44 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
Woman on Fox has a sign: why did you leave us RAY NAGIN? Betcha CNN won't show anyone like this.
I saw an interview two days ago with someone from the projects by the French Quarter. The young man said that when it's time to vote, Nagin and his ilk were all over down there saying "Vote for us. We're homies", but that when this happened, they were nowhere to be seen, and had gotten themselves and their families out, and could've cared less about their voting base.
A distinguished black gentleman on Fox just stated very clearly that the "blame" for this does not rest with President Bush. Think his name is Herman Cain....
Here is a
LINK to the City of New Orleans Emergency Preparedness page titled "General Evacuation Guidelines". Check it out.
Did you see these graphics of topography changes on the
NASA website?
or read about the care and handling of pets during a natural disaster. Speaking of which I am going to try to maintain a thread with updates on the
animal rescue work taking place in NO here for anyone who is interested.
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posted on
09/03/2005 12:33:01 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
Hand-crank radio:
batteries or crank
led flashlight
am and 2 sw work good, fm ok
$40 at Frys
Did you hear the phone call just on MSNBC from the lady who was just rescued today from Slidell?
It was very disturbing. (At least it will be for a lot of people when we start hearing MORE of these stories.)
The people banned together, went to a mall, lived out of the food court, formed a "semi-government/town," had rules, policed themselves. Saved themselves.
Quite unlike what happened in the SuperDome/Convention Center.
Click to watch 30 minute, low quality
11 MB .wmv of Blanco's News Conference
Sept. 3, 2005
"As many as 100,000 inner-city residents didn't have the means to leave and an untold number of tourists were stranded by the closing of the airport,
so the city arranged buses to take people to 10 last-resort shelters, including the Superdome."
Link
Following is a link, from blogger GEA3, that will give you an idea how much the Clinton folks like Witt did for flood control in Louisiana. Here is a taste of what the Clinton administration did in 1995 thru 2000:
US Left: All Straws Clutched, Every Barrel Scraped A sample from 1995:
Clinton administration officials argue that the flood-control efforts are local projects, not national, and should be paid for by local taxes.
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posted on
09/03/2005 3:44:13 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
Blanco reference links:
Will somebody PLEASE get Guliani out front to explain who is supposed to do what in an emergency and why 9-11 went so smooth. It seems the dems are too stupid to connect the dots by themselves.
At some point in time all of these lunatics have got to realize, as much as they hate the President and the military, it takes time to mobilize forces of the size needed to address a catastrophe of this size. It is the STATE GOVERNMENT'S responsiblity to take care of it's citizens in the meantime. The governor not allowing help in, in a timely manner and the mayor of NO not evacuating everyone in a timely manner are only the start of how these incompetent leaders failed their constituents.
The area of destruction is larger than 90,000 square miles. The entire island nation of Cuba is only 42,000 square miles.
Buildings burn on the east side of New Orleans, LA., Saturday, Sept. 3, 2005.
Kanye West: “George Bush doesn’t care about black people!”
[ 
Goto page: 1 ... 3, 4, 5 ]
An opinion piece on looters
[ Goto page: 1, 2, 3 ]
Hurricane Smug slams into southern Ontario
[ Goto page: 1, 2 ]
Louisana's State Emergency Operations Plan (EOP)
Bulldoze New Orleans
Hurrican Katrina - Museums destroyed, damaged or looted.
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posted on
09/03/2005 5:05:50 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
US coal reserves are over 200 years and already power over 50% of US electricity. I remember that it was the largest field of that kind outside of Indonesia (?) before the toon federalized the land so it could not be used for mining. Clean burning coal - as I recall, the largest supply in the world next to the one in Indonesia. As I also recall, Bubba made the US supply in Utah a Fed protected area (Nat'l park or some such - I forget the exact wording) and the one in Indonesia is/was owned by the Lippo Group (his friends and donors)
I checked over at the archives of
http://mgno.com, to see when he reported hearing of flooding with the levees.
He reported it on the 29th
Their plan has always been to let the peons fend for themselves and to stick their hand out for money when it's over. It's really that brutally simple.
You can present the best disaster plan every concocted, but if the powers that be don't implement it, it won't save one life.
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posted on
09/04/2005 3:42:58 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
The Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool. Hundreds of buses, abandoned and unused during the evacuation, now leaking tons of diesel fuel and motor oil into the already toxic water.
10:07 PM PDT |
link: 196 comments |
link only OT: William Rehnquist dies. Two openings on the SCOTUS. Liberals everywhere Freak Out(tm)! Just imagine
if Bush were to name Clarence Thomas as Chief Justice...
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09/04/2005 5:21:37 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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09/04/2005 5:33:04 AM PDT
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backhoe
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09/04/2005 5:42:52 AM PDT
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backhoe
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09/04/2005 5:47:56 AM PDT
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backhoe
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09/04/2005 6:09:06 AM PDT
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backhoe
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09/04/2005 6:23:25 AM PDT
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backhoe
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posted on
09/04/2005 6:27:25 AM PDT
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backhoe
To: All; mewzilla
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:09:39 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
A New Low For The MSM? -- Well, the MSM is working. My mostly Republican church is rapidly turning against Bush. Just the stuff I was overhearing in the parking lot was stunning.
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posted on
09/04/2005 10:28:33 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
The predatory violence and anarchy befalling New Orleans is not the result of a freak convergence of forces brought on by unnatural disaster.
As was said on the other thread, that 500,000 hurricane evac plan didn't work out too well. So their response is to RE-HIRE him??
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posted on
09/04/2005 1:30:00 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
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posted on
09/04/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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The Bush administration sent Blanco a memorandum Friday evening requesting the federalisation of the LA NG.Blanco -- well, her keepers at least -- turned it down.
This is all well-documented, right down to the time-stamp:
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
-- it looks like what the staffer told the WaPo (if he really did say what the WaPo says he said -- and I know that is a big if), was wrong on that particular detail
See Link
Nagin and Blanco were aware, I imagine, of this study:
Blanco Refuses White House Request For Federal Paperwork On Friday -- go to the near bottom of the Washington Post article and see how K. Blanco thought it better to avoid Martial Law declared in her state than to save the lives of her people. --and - she is advised by the law firm of Clintoon's ex,
former director Witt in how to avoid a "takeover"
Hurricane Katrina: Don’t Blame Bush for Local Corruption and Democrat Incompetence --more--
There is a thread running right now that states that most of the federal moneys allocated for levee security were redirected by the corrupt mayor and city council and used to build CASINOS!
"The more I see, and the more I read, I am beginning to believe that BLANCO should be held CRIMINALLY responsible."
The evident incompetence of this woman is one reason the Democrats are loudly blaming Bush.
Bingo. The fools pi$$ed away their levee money buying everything BUT levees.
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Cached Katrina news reports BEFORE landfall (Aug 27-Aug 29) -- Thanks for putting this together. In light of the activity on Saturday the 27th, it is interesting that the New York Times ran not a single article on Hurricane Katrina the day before it struck (the 28th). This, despite the paper's editorial claim that "everyone knew [the disaster] was coming." I have the rather amusing details up on my
blog.
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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV -- The good news is that this week, the conservative radio talk show hosts across the country will start getting the truth out there. They are the "ace in the hole."
OK, I thought I was nuts but I just confirmed it with my husband and our houseguest. We live in Eastern Kansas. I grew up in Texas and I know what the gulf smells like. I smell the gulf here once or twice a year depending on the wind and the weather and tonight, I smell Katrina. It's like the gulf only wet wood, and an almost rotten smell. It's not a smell I've ever smelled here. Our houseguest is from Switzerland. He says that they get sand from the Sahara once in a while so he believes me. So if you live in the midwest, go outside and think about it. Only a barbwire fence between here and there.
U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Dan Langdon, of Bravo Company 2-4 Aviation, 4th Infantry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas, comforts a stray dog after landing his Chinook helicopter, Saturday, Sept. 4, 2005 in New Orleans. The Chinook crew is flying missions in support of relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina and was waiting to begin their next mission.
"The resolution is in contrast to a recent trip by Louisiana Governor Kathleen
Blanco to Cuba where she had a lobster dinner with Fidel Castro. Governor Blanco's meeting with Castro has come under fire by Louisianans for failing to meet with dissidents, call for democratic reforms, release of political prisoners, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights."
http://www.asambleasociedadcivilcuba.info/CPrensa/CANF.htm
Release Date: July 23, 2004
I am happy to see that Sheehan witch and Aruba off the air - but would suffer through Cindy witch and Aruba a thousand times over if it would mean Katrina didn't swamp the Gulf Coast as she did.
Timeline:
Super Typhoon Tip had a diameter of 1350 miles while Cyclone Tracy had a diameter of 30 miles. Which one would cause more damage if it hit land? I bring this point up because Hurricane Katrina was more powerful than the general definition of a Category 4 storm. In fact it was the 3rd most powerful storm to hit the US since the listings were started and the fourth storm to be recorded as a Category 5 storm (about one every 30 years on average).
(Equivalent sizes if placed over the US)
It is important to consider this when we realize that New Orleans was designed to handle a general Category 3 storm. There was no possible way it could have handled a direct hit from a general Category 4 storm. But Katrina was not a general Category 4 storm. It is also important to realize that New Orleans expected a general Category 4 storm or higher to hit on average once every 300 years. For a storm the size of Katrina, it might only hit once every 1000 years
Seems to me that thousands of people owe their lives to the competence and compassion of President Bush.
Why Was New Orleans Evacuated?
Power Line, MN - 2 hours ago
... Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low ...
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Looters Take To Streets; Martial Law Declared
New Orleans Channel.com, LA - Aug 30, 2005
... Gov. Blanco said President George W. Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. ...
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New Orleans Mayor Issues Evacuation Order
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Aug 28, 2005
... Blanco said President Bush called and personally appealed for the mandatory evacuation for the city, which sits below sea level.
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KansasCity.Com (Knight Ridder)
National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: "Get people out of New Orleans. I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation," Mayfield said. "New Orleans is never going to be the same." |
Is this a joke?
We need one reporter to ask Nagin, "If a 16 year old who has never driven a bus could take ONE of your buses and save 75 people, why couldn't you do the same?"
Officials: Its going to be 'ugly' --
On the seventh day, the mayor of New Orleans said he would surrender control of his shattered, nearly abandoned city --The Mayor lost control of his city the minute he chose to condone looting.
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posted on
09/05/2005 5:09:07 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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posted on
09/05/2005 5:17:34 AM PDT
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backhoe
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posted on
09/05/2005 5:38:41 AM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
" SPEAKING TRUTH TO HYSTERIA "-- However, you all need to go back and read this admittedly lengthy post that reviews, dissects and lays out in plain English the history and steps taken by the various parties leading up to and responding to the Katrina disaster. Read it, bookmark it, print it out, have it ready to use in discussion when you talk to your liberal friends, and write your letters or emails to your newspaper and TV stations. Copy it and send it to Rush, Sean, Mark, Tony, Laura, etc.; in other words circulate it as widely as you can. --
Greg Richey
September 4, 2005
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posted on
09/05/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
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posted on
09/05/2005 6:14:00 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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