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AFTER ACTION REPORT: RALLY FOR THE TROOPS IN WILLIAMSBURG VA - CINDY'S DITCH TOUR GETS FREEPED
09-19-05 | paltz

Posted on 09/19/2005 8:56:32 PM PDT by Flora McDonald

All of us arrived at Crim Dell Meadow and the caravan of aging hippie throwbacks had already setup shop. According to Flora McDonald she had spoken to William and Mary previously about our counter protest. She was reassured we would be seen by both students and anti-war protesters. We were shocked to learn that the school had gone back on its word and sent us a football field or so away from the antiwar protest. Worse than that, the area had little foot traffic and shade (something the cindy sheehan’s group did have).

So I walked over to the college admin guy who allowed the groups to come on campus. He fed me the line that its school policy that groups have their right to free speech without being disrupted. I went on and said that nothing was being disrupted we just want the same foot traffic that they were getting. Standing there with U.S. flags and supporting our troops with our support the troop signs should not cause some disruption. We continued going on back and forth until he tried to pull authority and ask if I was a student. With a big smile on my face…I said “no”. I told him his new name was “bureaucratic college administrator”

So, while we ended up in the middle of bumble, with signs and flags, a bunch of CR’s and freepers went to the streets of Williamsburg with our stuff. We got a lot of thumbs up and honks. The school sent police cruisers to kick us off the street island we were standing on. So we stood on the sidewalk with our signs.

An oldish couple came up and used the same old tired line of “why don’t you go and serve if you’re for the war” My reply was simply “ Because the troops need to see groups of people like us on college campuses who support what they are doing not just Zarquai supporting groups like yours that bring down morale”. This went on for a while until they told me I’d be supporting Hitler if he were alive today. I nearly started laughing. Then they said I represented the worst of America. So I told them that coming from them that’s compliment. After they couldn’t give any alternative policy except saying the current one is a bad one, they walked away.

We met up with the other freepers at Crim Dell Meadow on campus.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aar; cindysheehan; ditchtour; freep; operationhero; rallyforthetroops; va; wandm; willammary; williamandmary; williamsburg
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Thank you, paltz, for the After-Action Report! I'm going to get some pictures posted so feel to jump in!
1 posted on 09/19/2005 8:56:33 PM PDT by Flora McDonald
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To: Flora McDonald

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2 posted on 09/19/2005 9:00:01 PM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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To: Flora McDonald

God Bless YOU!!

Great report!

The way you smacked those libs down, I'd like to introduce you to my sister!


3 posted on 09/19/2005 9:07:41 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Mom of Calico Charity Bonne and Calico Bess Rackum-argh!)
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To: Flora McDonald

Great work y'all. Thanks for supporting the troops.


4 posted on 09/19/2005 9:08:10 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Flora McDonald

Good for you guys! School campuses are really tough. Glad you stood up to the BCA.


5 posted on 09/19/2005 9:08:16 PM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: Justanobody; LibertyRocks; Mr. Silverback; Corin Stormhands; Gabz; GummyIII; R. Scott; Coop; ...
photos by Live Free Or Die


Cindy's Camp when we arrived. Note the UE guy.
Somehow this protest was supposed to tie in with labor issues.



Great speech by a conservative student activist at the Troop Rally

Backs against the wall, FReepers, students and friends come through for our Freedom Fighters!


Most of them freshman, these William & Mary students gave out yellow ribbons and buttons. The SEND CINDY TO GITMO sign was very popular!

6 posted on 09/19/2005 9:37:51 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Thank you for all you all did...........

You know how much I would have loved to be with you.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 9:46:11 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: Flora McDonald
Thanks, and keep up the excellent work!!
8 posted on 09/19/2005 9:50:53 PM PDT by timestax
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To: All

FReepers paltz, concretebob, Live Free Or Die


FReeper flora mcdonald


The Ditch Tour Whine & Wheeze Fest


Graffiti Gas Guzzler With Busted Satellite Ditch Tour RV
9 posted on 09/19/2005 9:52:09 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

It looks as if you guys had a good time up there. I loved the "Send Cindy to Gitmo" sign. We had someone in our group who had one of the Camp Gitmo shirts.


10 posted on 09/19/2005 9:53:50 PM PDT by dstarr (Widow of a Viet Nam vet)
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To: Flora McDonald

Rock on Freepers....keep the moonbats on the fly...

God Bless you and our troops!!


11 posted on 09/19/2005 9:54:05 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: netmilsmom

Paltz wrote the report and she is one awesome debater. A couple of the guys walked over to give her a hand with the screaming hippy couple, came back & said "She's holding her own just fine!"

Why is it old hippies get so ornery?


12 posted on 09/19/2005 9:55:15 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Yep. That's the clunker they were in when they arrived here in Fayetteville. Ain't it purty?


13 posted on 09/19/2005 9:55:17 PM PDT by dstarr (Widow of a Viet Nam vet)
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To: Flora McDonald

WOO HOO! Thank You!


14 posted on 09/19/2005 9:57:53 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Flora McDonald; paltz; concretebob; Live free or die

My gratitude to all of you for supporting our troops!


15 posted on 09/19/2005 10:01:31 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: dstarr

The best part about being on the campus of W&M was meeting all these young people. They were intelligent, witty and well-mannered.

The FReepers weren't bad either!

We stayed a lot later than we intended - had some great conversations.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 10:02:29 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

>>Why is it old hippies get so ornery?<<

Because the years are ticking away and they are losing power.
My sister is that way.

Hugs to Paltz!


17 posted on 09/19/2005 10:03:34 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Mom of Calico Charity Bonne and Calico Bess Rackum-argh!)
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To: Flora McDonald

The FReep ended at Chili's. Great food and more talk!
And yes we could solve the world's problems given half
a chance and a Division of Marines.

18 posted on 09/19/2005 10:08:53 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: fizziwig

So many moonbats...so little time!


19 posted on 09/19/2005 10:10:44 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: netmilsmom; Gabz; MEG33; timestax; NonValueAdded; TrailofTears
More photos from the William & Mary event courtesy of R. Scott.

The gentleman in the green shirt on the steps gave a very poignant, impromptu speech. He is a retired Army officer.
20 posted on 09/19/2005 10:35:16 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

"So many moonbats...so little time!"

Oh dat be a great bumpersticker or t shirt..:)


21 posted on 09/19/2005 10:37:41 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Flora McDonald

I loved seeing those young people..Glad they got to hear an "old soldier" speak.


22 posted on 09/19/2005 10:46:57 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: R. Scott; Live free or die; csvset; paltz; TomServo; concretebob; Justanobody; Mr. McDonald

Sorry it took so long to get the thread up. What with one FReep and another....

Did anyone write down the names of FReepers who attended?

Here's what I've got but I think I've missed a couple:
R. Scott
paltz
Live Free Or Die
concretebob
tom servo
csvset
justanobody
Mr. McDonald
Flora McDonald
(and friend, Miss R.)


23 posted on 09/19/2005 10:50:27 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Thank you Bump !!!!!


24 posted on 09/19/2005 11:01:07 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Families)
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To: Flora McDonald
Great job Guys!!!

Your love of country is shinning through!

God Bless You all.

25 posted on 09/20/2005 12:08:43 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Earth to liberals, we were not in Iraq on 9/11 so how did the war cause terrorism again?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Fabulous job!!


26 posted on 09/20/2005 2:54:21 AM PDT by TheSarce (The Silent Majority is finding its voice. It goes to ELEVEN!)
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To: Flora McDonald
“why don’t you go and serve if you’re for the war”

I was talking with a William and Mary student when this comment was made. He had completed a tour in Iraq and Afghanistan with the US Marines. He had a good chuckle over the comment.
We talked for close to half an hour – and both being vets we had a lot in common. It was soon apparent that he really had been there, and was not just blowing smoke.
27 posted on 09/20/2005 3:30:25 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott; paltz; Live free or die; concretebob; TomServo; csvset; Justanobody; Mr. McDonald; ...
Great work, guys!

Thank you all for doing this.

28 posted on 09/20/2005 4:10:51 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: Flora McDonald

bttt


29 posted on 09/20/2005 4:12:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: tgslTakoma

It was the very first time I ever attended a politically motivated rally. I might even learn how to be more active in my participation.


30 posted on 09/20/2005 4:15:20 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Flora McDonald

Great job by all!!


31 posted on 09/20/2005 4:42:20 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: Flora McDonald

I love the "World Peace Begins with W" and the rainbow! Very thoughtful.


32 posted on 09/20/2005 6:32:49 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
You can use the line in your next beauty pageant.
33 posted on 09/20/2005 6:34:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: Flora McDonald
You guys were great!!!! I almost fell like I was there ;-)!
Love the "Send Cindy to Gitmo" sign!

I was thinking about a sign that says "Donate Here to Send the Cindynistas to Iraq" That way we could get rid of them, they could show our troops in person how much they *cough* "support them, and our troops could show their *ahem* "appreciation" by tossing their sorry butts to the "Freedom Fighters". Everybody wins!

34 posted on 09/20/2005 7:00:43 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Deprogramming the left, one truth at a time.)
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To: Flora McDonald; All
We stayed a lot later than we intended - had some great conversations.

Toward the end, we had two young men wander over "from the other side" to have a discussion with us. It was quite remarkable. They were soft spoken, asking intelligent questions - albeit from the lsm, listened attentively as several answered their questions and objections to what was said. They seemed generally interested in seeking the truth. One recited the spelling, twice, of a search term we told him to google. This indicated to me that he was serious about researching the things he had heard.

The greatest moment was when they thanked us for taking the time to answer questions, give explanations and verifiable information for what we we told them. They informed us that when they probed the "other side" for answers, all they could spout was, "but...oh...but...but...HALLIBURTON!" His facial expression and gesturing through that statement was priceless! It was then that they decided to search for answers elsewhere and came to us.

Meeting these two, and the most awesome, energetic Young Republicans and other students, give me great hope for the future of our Republic!

35 posted on 09/20/2005 7:15:26 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Flora McDonald; concretebob
I don't know about other FReepers, but I counted 15-17 others from the photos.

Does that sound right? Bob, what does your book tell us?

36 posted on 09/20/2005 7:18:44 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Flora McDonald

It's really nice to see the nice, well-mannered, clean young people get involved and support the troops...unlike the unclean, unkempt, unwashed hippies of yester year.

It gives me hope for America.


37 posted on 09/20/2005 7:20:20 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Flora McDonald

I love the World Peace begins with W sign!


38 posted on 09/20/2005 7:22:21 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: R. Scott; Flora McDonald; All
“why don’t you go and serve if you’re for the war”

That along with ...
"do you have a family member over there?"

"what noble cause?"

...are their signature absurdities!

39 posted on 09/20/2005 7:44:50 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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“why don’t you go and serve if you’re for the war”

My response: I would love to go. But the military isn't taking mid-40's fat guys with bad knees.

40 posted on 09/20/2005 7:48:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Justanobody
Here are my responses:

“why don’t you go and serve if you’re for the war”

I would love to, but since I am a vet. of the first gulf war and I am too old to go, I'm not allowed. Since you are most likely pro-abortion why don't you go have one?

"do you have a family member over there?"

Yes, actually I do. He is currently flying there for the Army and I would love to be able to be there with him helping.

"what noble cause?"

Freeing the Iraqi people from a dictator who murdered & robbed them for 2 decades. Killing the terrorists who are bent on destroying our nation & our way of life. That would be the noble cause you scum sucking, bottom feeders.

41 posted on 09/20/2005 7:57:14 AM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Volunteer
you scum sucking, bottom feeders
Bump
42 posted on 09/20/2005 8:05:39 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Sisku Hanne; Justanobody; R. Scott; Live free or die; csvset; paltz; All
Sisku Hanne did an awesome SOLO FREEP of the Ditch Tour in PA.

She sent me the graphic for this sign which I love: IF YOU ARE FREE TO PROTEST, THANK A SOLDIER.

(The gentleman in the picture below is retired military and gave an impromptu and inspirational speech.)


43 posted on 09/20/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Justanobody

I wonder if anybody got a picture of A., the student who brought us sodas and a Patriot CD not to mention some great conversation?

He was with us for the duration and I would love to post a picture of him.


44 posted on 09/20/2005 8:09:49 AM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Volunteer
I love your responses!

Thank you for your service to our country. Please convey my profound appreciation and gratitude to your wonderful son.

Will you be joining us in DC this week-end? We sure could use you!

45 posted on 09/20/2005 8:18:32 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Flora McDonald; All
Last photo in post #6 - second from the left. Andrew was his name, IIRC. Anyone??

He was with us for the duration and I would love to post a picture of him.

Yes. He did a great job discussing the issues with the two guys I mentioned earlier. He comes from a long line of Military personnel. His dad served during Desert Storm.

46 posted on 09/20/2005 8:25:11 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Flora McDonald

"The Ditch Tour Whine & Wheeze Fest"

That's IT! The crowd from their protest
group?

THAT's their bus?

I'm laughing so hard I can barely hit
the right keys.


47 posted on 09/20/2005 8:28:35 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Landry Fan; nina0113

Ping


48 posted on 09/20/2005 8:30:23 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: Justanobody

Yep.


49 posted on 09/20/2005 8:40:28 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: AppyPappy
My response: I would love to go. But the military isn't taking mid-40's fat guys with bad knees.

Yea, I know.
I had my hopes up when DoD announced they were taking retirees back in – then they qualified it by saying we would have to pass a physical and a PT test.
Back in Viet Nam we had a “new” crewman report aboard. He was over 50 y.o., needed a cane to walk, and had a medical profile not allowing him to be around loud noises or weapons (!). He was not allowed to set, stand or walk for prolonged periods. He had made the Normandy landing, was hit and medically retired.
He was recalled for Korea, made the Inchon landing, was hit and medically retired. He was called back for Viet Nam. On his first trip with us into Hue he was hit and again medically retired.
I figured if he could do so could I. Oh well …
50 posted on 09/20/2005 8:47:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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