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Two men shot in York, PA (store clerk shoots would-be robber)
York Daily Record ^ | September 27, 2005 | MICHELE CANTY

Posted on 09/28/2005 5:14:40 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

Police said the men were shot during a robbery attempt at a store.

A store owner and one of three men who tried to rob his shop were shot Monday afternoon, according to York City Police.

Both the store owner and the suspect were treated at York Hospital Monday night. The business owner, Kevin Patrick Winter, was doing well, police said. The other man was in the intensive care unit late Monday night.

The shootings occurred at Kendal's Grocery and Jamaican Cuisine in the 600 block of East Market Street.

Shortly after 4 p.m., three men went into the store and tried to rob Winter. When he wouldn't comply, one of the men shot him once in the hip, said York County Chief Deputy Prosecutor Bill Graff.

A part-time store clerk, Steven Gray, fired several shots from a .45-caliber handgun, hitting one of the men, police said. The robbers ran out of the store.

Witnesses said they heard the shots and saw Winter lying in the store's doorway, bleeding. A man they described as his friend tried to keep Winter from passing out as they waited for help to arrive.

Within minutes, an ambulance came and took Winter to the hospital.

The uninjured robbers helped their hurt accomplice into a car and left, witnesses said. They sped past two city officers, Travis Sowers and Matthew Leitzel, who followed them to the hospital. The officers arrested the uninjured men while the third was treated in the emergency room, police said.

That man was shot four times — twice in the stomach and twice in the arm — the prosecutor said.

At the store, police blocked off the area out front, spreading yellow police tape from one side of the street to the other. A fire policeman diverted East Market Street's heavy, rush-hour traffic to an alternate way out of the city.

People who live on the street stood along the police tape watching officers work.

"It's a shame that people are out here shooting in broad daylight," one woman said. She shook her head as she walked up the street toward her apartment.

Police filed charges against two men Monday night, but court documents detailing the offenses weren't available. The man in the hospital was to be charged once he was moved from the intensive care unit, authorities said.

Charges include robbery, aggravated assault and attempted homicide. Gray won't be charged, Graff said.

"He didn't commit a crime. He defended himself," Graff said. Gray had a license to carry the gun, which was properly registered, he said.

As late as 9:30 p.m., investigators were still at the small store, sorting through bullet fragments and shell casings and processing other evidence, Graff said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
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To: Mr. Mojo
... That man was shot four times — twice in the stomach and twice in the arm ...

Just goes to show you that shot placement counts, even with a big bore handgun. If the shooter had been using a 9mm, I guarantee some here would have said: "He shoulda used a .45...the perp would be dead."

21 posted on 09/28/2005 7:14:51 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: Mr. Mojo

Range officer awards 20 points for 2 rounds in center mass.

Thumbs up and a wink for the other two in the arm, fully realizing its hard to hit center mass with his arm in the way when he is laying on the ground in a ball crying for his mommy.


22 posted on 09/28/2005 9:06:10 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Al Gator
There is no such thing as "registered" in Pa. Concealed carry we have. Firearm registration, we don't.

Thanks for the information. Perhaps the reference to firearms registration was just the reporter's wishful thinking.

23 posted on 09/28/2005 9:44:35 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: hiredhand
But IF he had a 1911 "style" weapon, and 8 rounds, his hit rate is at best 50% inside of 25 feet.

Hmmmm, thinking . . .

8 rounds . . . 4 hits . . .

3 perps . . .1 hit . . .

50% and 33% . Depending on the math, it could be as low as 18% or so.

24 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:01 AM PDT by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: Petruchio
Ha! You wrote what I didn't WANT to think about! I was thinking of single shooter, single target! The desired result was ACCEPTABLE!....the perps took off...one was incapacitated.

But some serious range time involving threat prioritization and multiple targets should be in order for ALL handgun shooters!
25 posted on 09/28/2005 10:42:59 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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That man was shot four times — twice in the stomach and twice in the arm — the prosecutor said.

Nice shooting. I'm amazed that the perp survived long enough to get him into intensive care. He must have lost a lot of blood.

26 posted on 09/28/2005 12:59:27 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 09/28/2005 7:31:32 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?)
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