Posted on 09/28/2005 12:21:53 PM PDT by kddid
Well I did say some in the DOI. Consequently, we were affected by that investigation....had no connection to it but it dealt with information systems and vulnerability.
Would she like to be harassed by a former firefighter? If I wasn't married, I'd gladly do it!
DoD has to do it too. It doesn't matter how important or non important you think the feds are, but all the agencies have the same training.
Second point as it relates to this article I have a good friend who is a fireman and his 21 yr old son is a volunteer fireman and the son immediately went to New Orleans to help out after Katrina. After being down there for a week he called home very disallusioned and said Dad, all anybody does down here is sit around and complain. He was referring to the locals not the National Guard or other volunteers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1491284/posts?page=1">Found
Baer, who served with Tillman for more than a year in Iraq and Afghanistan, told one anecdote that took place during the March 2003 invasion as the Rangers moved up through southern Iraq.
I can see it like a movie screen, Baer said. We were outside of (a city in southern Iraq) watching as bombs were dropping on the town. We were at an old air base, me, Kevin and Pat, we werent in the fight right then. We were talking. And Pat said, You know, this war is so f illegal. And we all said, Yeah. Thats who he was. He totally was against Bush.
Another soldier in the platoon, who asked not to be identified, said Pat urged him to vote for Bushs Democratic opponent in the 2004 election, Sen. John Kerry.
Senior Chief Petty Officer Stephen White a Navy SEAL who served with Pat and Kevin for four months in Iraq and was the only military member to speak at Tillmans memorial said Pat wasnt very fired up about being in Iraq and instead wanted to go fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Here's what Google turned up:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL
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Yet other Tillman family members are less reluctant to show Tillmans unique character, which was more complex than the public image of a gung-ho patriotic warrior. He started keeping a journal at 16 and continued the practice on the battlefield, writing in it regularly. (His journal was lost immediately after his death.) Mary Tillman said a friend of Pats even arranged a private meeting with Chomsky, the antiwar author, to take place after his return from Afghanistan a meeting prevented by his death. She said that although he supported the Afghan war, believing it justified by the Sept. 11 attacks, Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war.
Baer, who served with Tillman for more than a year in Iraq and Afghanistan, told one anecdote that took place during the March 2003 invasion as the Rangers moved up through southern Iraq.
I can see it like a movie screen, Baer said. We were outside of (a city in southern Iraq) watching as bombs were dropping on the town. We were at an old air base, me, Kevin and Pat, we werent in the fight right then. We were talking. And Pat said, You know, this war is so f illegal. And we all said, Yeah. Thats who he was. He totally was against Bush.
Another soldier in the platoon, who asked not to be identified, said Pat urged him to vote for Bushs Democratic opponent in the 2004 election, Sen. John Kerry.
Senior Chief Petty Officer Stephen White a Navy SEAL who served with Pat and Kevin for four months in Iraq and was the only military member to speak at Tillmans memorial said Pat wasnt very fired up about being in Iraq and instead wanted to go fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan. He said both Pat and Kevin (who has a degree in philosophy) were amazingly well-read individuals
very firm in some of their beliefs, their political and religious or not so religious beliefs.
"said Pat wasnt very fired up about being in Iraq and instead wanted to go fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan"
What a bunch of bunk, Pat Tillman was killed in Afghanistan.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7277321
Looks like Dan Rather is now posting on FR.
Tell me if I am wrong but Tillman wasn't in Iraq but in Afghanistan?
Sounds like somebody can't get their facts straight.''
Kinda like fighting the Japs in France during WW2 .....
if the dems got all the conservatives in gitmo, it would suddenly be ok for it to become, in fact, the toture center that they claim it is.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. Was he stationed in both places perhaps?
A footnote on diversity.
Here at work, the focus is on black folks and women, period. When I was having problems with a federal agency with regards to my disability, it was suggested I form a 'club'. Somehow, they did not view that as a racist, sexist response. (what would we do, compare our meds over lunch?)
'Diversity' is a business. If you don't fit their profile, they want nothing to do with you. If equal opportunity were the real goal, they would focus on the most disadvantaged group, disabled vets. It is all about power. They don't want to share it with anyone.
It was interesting to call their number on that. Of course, they missed the whole point. In the meantime, I decided not to deal with the offending agency.
It is important to remember that the Soviet Union had racial and ethnic quotas. See how well socialism works?
News to me. But look at this picture on SFgate.com:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?m=/c/pictures/2005/09/25/ba_tillman087_ckh.jpg&f=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL
Diverstity training = training competant people to work with incompetant people who cannot be fired in order to present the image of "diversity" to the powers that be.
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