Posted on 10/01/2005 9:58:55 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
Katherine Albrecht, founder of CASPIAN, a consumer group fighting against supermarket 'loyalty' cards, will join Liz McIntyre to share an update on Radio Frequency Identification products (RFID). Related site:
You left out: Dixie Normus
A friend of mine received a letter from a friend of his(creative) who put "Confidential Herpes Test Results" and had a yes or no box on the outside (where 'yes' was checked). This was a brown envelope and professionally done too. LMAO!
A friend of mine broke up with an ad agency art director chick who concocted all manner of such letters and packages. He lived in one of those apartments where the concierge holds your mail and it cost him no end of grief in the building.
you have to use all of them except Freddie's if you want the discount price, and at Wegman's that is a big differance....
I pay cash and will continue to do so as long as it is accepted.... Then I'll try to barter through other people when cash is no longer accepted....
Never signed up for a store discount card, never will. Not because I try to hide what I buy, but because it is none of their dang business. I can't remember ever buying any product because of directed advertising or "push" marketing.... Other than seeing a commercial for a food product and saying "Hey, that looks good." In fact, I generally run away from anything that is "push marketed", and never bought anything that is offered via telemarketing or "snail mail.":.
I reckon they can track me through my IP on the net, Especially since I have broadband; and they can track my online purchases...
I suppose if Hillary gets elected, they will be going after FReepers... So I'm screwed anyway, even though I AM a generaly peaceful, America loving person no matter who is in the White House..
When I am asked for my telephone number or zip code, I lie. None of their dang business. If I want what they are selling, I'LL initiate the contact.
About the only exceptions are that if Jessica Alba or Alyssa Milano or Nikki Cox ever ask me for my phone number, I'll give them the right one ;-)
What's "push marketing?"
I have already maxed out the goobermint's thread matrix ten times over. So what the hell, why worry at this point? I proudly swipe my Von's card, and get the 2 for 1 deals. When TSHTF, I'm already gone, one way or the other.
Whooops, I meant THREAT matrix.
Just imagine what SHE had in her arsenal. Ouch! LOL!
Without going into too much detail, imagine the aging prissy president of a very stuffy co-op board looking at a direct mail solicitation on a postcard for Thai sex tours or official looking correspondence for drug re-hab clinics.
Forget 'uniting', it's time for some good ol' fashioned dividing. Atilla-the-Hun to replace Sandra Day O'Connor, NOW!.
WOW! She's good! (in a bad way).
Push marketing is kind of like a push poll combined with "hardsell' tactics.... They form the questions (thrust of the ad) so as to "push" the respondent (buyer) into a set response. They tailor their ads to you individually because they have (or think they have) inside information on the potential buyer..
Here is an example: My very elderly mother recieves about 20 - 30 requests for donations every day in the mail from religious and pseudo religious organizations, and from "save social security" scams. Why? because until I put a stop to it, she was sending about a thousand bucks a month to any one with a good sob story if "Catholic", "Christian", or " save social security" or "conservative" were mentioned on the envelope or in the enclosed plea.
The legitimate religious and fraudulent, pseudo-religious organizations all share / sell their mailing lists with/to each other, and they all know the basic keywords they need to use in order to get donations from their particular lists, and they prey upon people's weaknesses, greed or ignorance in order to enrich themselves.
Amazon.com uses the same techniques to push products to their registered users.... Although there is apparently a BIG flaw in their system somewhere.... They keep trying to PUSH some liberal crap on me... In my "recommendations list" I keep getting Al Franken, hillary and bill clinton books, and streisand CD's recommended to me.
I forgot to include, that, rather than merely presenting facts or even just marketing hype, "push" marketers rely on mere keywords, symbols or basic belief systems to con you out of your money. They pander to weaknesses rather than trying to establish a common ground or offering a solution to an actual need.
"Able Danger" noticed something which ought to have been obvious anyhow.
I don't use any of those spy cards. On the other hand, coast to coast AM is regularly full of kook callers that tell us that aliens have put pop rocks in the water supply to control our minds.
Used to use my 'Food Lion' card every week before we retired and moved home. Noticed that when I checked out that I was frequently given cents off coupons for items of a different manufacturer than I had bought that day or even a week or so ago. So, yes, your purchasing information does stay in their computers.
I really don't give a hoot how the business of visitors to the USA is nosed into, if the scrutiny can be narrowed down to just that. A few ridiculously wrong 'busts' of citizens will, however, result in a horrible kick back. Just amplify by the ACLU scream factor.
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