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Oklahoma bomber had jihad material
World Net Daily.com ^ | October 4, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/04/2005 2:49:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

Oklahoma bomber
had jihad material

Documents found in apartment of student who blew himself up


Posted: October 4, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jon Dougherty
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

An Oklahoma University student who killed himself by detonating a bomb strapped to his body outside a packed stadium over the weekend was a "suicide bomber" in possession of "Islamic jihad" materials, according to a new report.

Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering major at the school blew himself up outside OU's football stadium during Saturday night's game against Kansas State. Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, told WND he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident that authorities recovered a "significant amount" of "jihad" materials, as well as Hinrichs' computer.

Hagmann also said those same sources indicated police and federal agents "had pulled additional explosives from [Hinrichs'] house," including triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, "homemade explosive [that is] very potent but relatively easily manufactured."

TATP was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London, CNN reported, and was used by attempted bomber Richard Reid, who packed his shoes with the compound in an unsuccessful attempt to destroy a U.S.-bound American Airlines flight in December 2001.

The confiscated jihad documents "referenced bomb-making manuals and that type of thing," Hagmann said, who added Hinrichs' apartment in Norman, Okla., is "located near the Islamic Society."

A phone at the Islamic Society of Norman went unanswered yesterday. Also, there was no response to an e-mail inquiry by press time.

Hagmann reported his findings on his website.

WorldNetDaily reported earlier that officials carted away a huge cache of explosives from Hinrichs' apartment. Police were overheard telling residents it would take "several trips and could take up to 24 hours" to remove it all, according to the Daily Oklahoman. A canister trailer used for detonating or transporting potentially explosive material was being used to haul items away.

University officials have shrugged off reports Hinrichs was anything other than a disturbed student who acted alone.

"We know that he has had what I would call emotional difficulties in the past. There is certainly no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems," said University President David Boren over the weekend.

In a joint statement, the FBI's Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez, U.S. Attorney John Richter and OU Police Chief Elizabeth Woolen said, "At this point, we have no information that suggests that there is any additional threat posed by others related to this incident."

FBI spokesman Gary Johnson told WND he couldn't add anything, other than the investigation is ongoing.

His agency has been joined in the investigation by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; the Joint Terrorism Task Force; the University of Oklahoma Police Department; the Norman Police Department; and the Cleveland County Sheriff's Office.

Official accounts say Hinrichs detonated an explosive device while seated on a bench outside Cross Hall, a university science building about 100 yards from the stadium.

Some 84,000 people were inside watching the game at the time of the explosion. Officials say it did not appear Hinrichs attempted to enter the venue.

Attacks inevitable?

While it is too soon to know whether the Hinrichs incident was isolated or part of a larger scheme to launch suicide attacks in the U.S. similar to those in Great Britain earlier this year and those that are a regular occurrence in Iraq, experts believe it is only a matter of time before such attacks do occur in U.S. cities.

Bruce Newsome, a terrorism researcher at the Rand Corporation, a noted think tank, told ABC News shortly after the London bombings the four-man plot carried out there is a "likely model for future U.S. attacks."

He said the four men used for the attack were clean: no criminal records, did not show up on any terrorism watch lists, and were not part of any extremist activities – like Hinrichs.

That makes tracking such attackers virtually impossible, Newsome pointed out.

And, in Iraq last week, a woman pushed her way into a line of men at an army recruitment center before detonating a bomb she carried. The last time women were used in suicide attacks was during the war in Iraq in 2003, when two women in a car – one of them pregnant – detonated a device, killing three soldiers, the BBC reported.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bomber; hinrichs; islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; nein; oklahoma; oubomber; oubombing; rop; swine; university; wnd
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To: ovrtaxt

I got the impression from the other thread on this subject that the website for NEIN and Doug H. were anything but reliable. Anyone else see where Jihad material has been confirmed by other sources?


101 posted on 10/04/2005 8:44:14 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Fortunately this MENSA engineering student was unclear on the concept.

Blowing only yourself up is considered a waste of good explosives by the mass-murdering-animals-on-two-legs killer managers...

102 posted on 10/04/2005 8:48:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: jimbo123

I had heard this, too. Of course, on another thread, everyone is into "oh, here, take this tinfoil hat" mode. They don't trust MSM, yet unless an article is sourced by MSM, they think it's tinfoil.


103 posted on 10/04/2005 8:52:58 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: ovrtaxt
It's not the official jihadis that worry me. It's the 'fellow travelers' who decide to make names for themselves.
104 posted on 10/04/2005 9:12:07 AM PDT by JAWs
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To: JAWs

Jihad sympathizers.


105 posted on 10/04/2005 9:35:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: ovrtaxt
It's bloody disturbing that no MSM outlets seem to be chasing the Jihadi angle. Thus far, a search shows over 160 articles on the guy, but only this WND story and two blog postings cover the possibility that he was a wannabe "martyr".
106 posted on 10/04/2005 9:41:44 AM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: ovrtaxt
Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, told WND he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation....

Ah, yes. WND was told by Hagmann who was told by "sources" who know what the authorities have found.

Hagmann may be right. But it'll take more than a 4th-hand account to make me believe this report.

107 posted on 10/04/2005 9:45:06 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

"Ah, yes. WND was told by Hagmann who was told by "sources" who know what the authorities have found."

WARNING!

Doubleplusungood FReepthink detected! Subject caught using too many neurons at one time; will be deported to a Glorious FReeple's Reeducation Camp for psychiatric treatment.


108 posted on 10/04/2005 9:46:40 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: texasbluebell

I never saw this.

Astonishing. I should say I'm not surprised by this, but....

Thanks for posting.


109 posted on 10/04/2005 9:51:21 AM PDT by milford421
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To: E Rocc
WND's going to trash its own credibility if it keeps considering Hagmann as a credible source for anything other than the best brands of tinfoil

Whaddaya mean by that? Hagmann's a "seasoned investigator." That means something important, I'm almost positive.

110 posted on 10/04/2005 9:51:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: MizSterious

"oh, here, take this tinfoil hat" mode. They don't trust MSM, yet unless an article is sourced by MSM, they think it's tinfoil."

That's right...yet the tinfoil tag doesn't come out regarding The New York Times, (Jayson Blair), Channel 2, 60 minutes, (Dan Rather), etc.


111 posted on 10/04/2005 9:53:27 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Sally

I think in the big picture of things...we are missing the very essence of what these punks represent...an extreme naive view of the themselves, the nation, citizenship, and the world. All of these Allah geeks in prison's across the US...lost their view....in a sense...they were brain-washed. To allow anyone to set up such a training lab...in the midst of our own land...is idiot. All of these geeks in London who killed themselves...were brain-washed. All forgot they were members of the British empire and were enriched with the greatest history on the face of the earth. To allow things like this to continue is sheer stupidity.


112 posted on 10/04/2005 9:53:38 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Drago
It must also be considered that in fact, the instructions he was using were bad.

It has been widely reported that the Israelis put up websites that showed how to make bombs that had deliberate errors that would cause the maker to be blown up while arming the weapon.

This incident has certain similarities.

Cheers,

knews hound
113 posted on 10/04/2005 9:53:46 AM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Doubleplusungood FReepthink detected! Subject caught using too many neurons at one time; will be deported to a Glorious FReeple's Reeducation Camp for psychiatric treatment.

Um, er, I mean... Go Pat Go!

LOL!

114 posted on 10/04/2005 9:53:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: ovrtaxt
Hinrichs was anything other than a disturbed student who acted alone.

1. When someone blows themselves up it is hard to argue that he wasn't "disturbed". Whether the disturbance involved Islamic extremism is the issue.

2. The University has no idea whether he acted alone or not. That will not be known until it is investigated.

115 posted on 10/04/2005 9:56:13 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: ovrtaxt

Any source other than WhilredNutsDaily or conspiracy sites?


116 posted on 10/04/2005 10:31:02 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

"One thing's for sure, at least WND is keeping this explosion from being completely buried from the news. We know it happened. God bless WND!"

It is worth noting that in the pre-internet days, when pretty much all news was via tv and print media, this event would be pretty much unknown to ANYONE not in the city it happened in.

My thought on this is that NSA or some other such entity can 'request' that something be suppressed for natsec reasons. The fact that this has been buried so blatantly adds great credibility to my long-held belief that other newsworthy items were buried as well, at least as far back as the mid-90's.

Maybe some of the FReepers who feel the media can always be trusted to at least cover something of this magnitude may begin to rethink previous situations which such confidence influenced how they viewed a story that was allegedly 'covered-up.'


117 posted on 10/04/2005 3:09:55 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: ovrtaxt

My all of those who speculated about this and were ripped apart by others can expect apologies now right????


118 posted on 10/04/2005 3:13:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: ovrtaxt

Just another isolated incident.


119 posted on 10/04/2005 3:14:25 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: ovrtaxt

Did you lift this from CBS? Bwahahahaha.


120 posted on 10/04/2005 3:15:20 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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