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1 posted on 10/07/2005 9:08:59 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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But it said the Vatican will ban men who "publicly manifest their homosexuality" or show an "overwhelming attraction" to homosexual culture "even if it is only intellectually."

And this is all that stands between these men and the alter boy? The church must still have a few homosexuals in the decision making levels of the church.

2 posted on 10/07/2005 9:13:38 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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I really don't get this, how can you be celibate and gay? For that matter, how can you be celibate and heterosexual? What if you were only turned on by bestiality but had never actually given into your urges? Would that be OK? What if you really always wanted to kill someone but had resisted or your biggest urge was to set fire to some great public building but you managed to keep your arsonist tendencies to fantasy only? Would you still be allowed to be a priest then?


3 posted on 10/07/2005 9:13:45 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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The problem with homosexuals is that they are driven by their sexual urges and the need for sexual gratification. Abstinence is not in their vocabulary. That makes them poor candidates for the priesthood or any position where there is contact with children.
4 posted on 10/07/2005 9:15:12 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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ping


5 posted on 10/07/2005 9:15:57 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Why would a man who is honestly trying to overcome this sin WANT to go into the priesthood where he would be faced with out-of-the-ordinary temptations on a daily basis?


6 posted on 10/07/2005 9:16:32 AM PDT by twigs
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So can married men be Priests if they are celibate?


7 posted on 10/07/2005 9:17:05 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Geezee Freepin Peezee ...)
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"Candidates who show a homosexual tendency will not be allowed into the priesthood unless they can demonstrate that they have been able to remain chaste for at least three years."

Exactly how does one 'demonstrate' such chastity? Kind of takes all the fun out of being a gay priest.


8 posted on 10/07/2005 9:17:34 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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This whole discussion is ridiculous.

The word "celibate" does not mean "not having sex", it means "not being married."

Check any dictionary, Reuters.

All this talk of "celibate homosexuals" makes no verbal or logical sense.

10 posted on 10/07/2005 9:23:46 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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Gives new meaning to the term "glory hole".


18 posted on 10/07/2005 9:32:48 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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Sounds of joy are now emanating from every Jesuit seminary and house. "Its Raining Men" being the new anthem of the Jebbies it seems.

(My apologies to Father Joe and the rest of the decent Jesuits who have to put up with all this crap from their fellow SJers).

19 posted on 10/07/2005 9:33:25 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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I think the only disqualification from the Catholic priesthood is interpreting the Bible literally (to judge from numerous other Catholic threads at present).


21 posted on 10/07/2005 9:34:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo-ya`avdukh yo'vedu!)
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Two Words:

Cardinal Law


24 posted on 10/07/2005 9:37:02 AM PDT by rattrap
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I'm Roman Catholic and I have no problem with this.


25 posted on 10/07/2005 9:37:30 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (GO CARDINALS !!)
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The Vatican will allow gay men into the priesthood if they can show they have been celibate for at least three years

What if it has only been 2 years and 364 days since the candidate had oral or anal sex with another man? Will they let him slide...

Sorry to be so graphic, but this is absurd.

A_R

32 posted on 10/07/2005 9:44:31 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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The Vatican is being practical. Short of making subjective judgments about applicants to the priesthood, all the Church can do is hope that a man who has maintained chastity for three years prior to entering a seminary is called to celibacy.

This is the very same requirement the Church makes of heterosexuals who present themselves for admission.

It is simply an impossibility to screen all homosexuals out of the priesthood. And, in many cases, totally unnecessary.

33 posted on 10/07/2005 9:45:56 AM PDT by sinkspur (Is Michael Graham still looking for a job?)
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I sense the edge of a slippery slope.

Uh-oh.


35 posted on 10/07/2005 9:48:30 AM PDT by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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How do you prove you have been celibate for 3 years?


37 posted on 10/07/2005 9:55:56 AM PDT by sharktrager (http://hookedonphoniks.blogspot.com)
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oh no. rats.


40 posted on 10/07/2005 9:58:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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oh no.


41 posted on 10/07/2005 9:58:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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The Vatican views on gay priests are contained in a secret 16-page document which is expected to be released next month.

Some secret. This story reeks of lavendar manufacture and it cites no authorities within the Vatican at all.

I'll believe it when I see it.
47 posted on 10/07/2005 10:05:19 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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