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Bush approval rating dips to 39 percent - poll
ABC News ^ | Oct 12, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 10/12/2005 8:31:55 PM PDT by counterpunch

Oct 12, 2005 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's job approval rating has fallen to a new low of 39 percent in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday.

Bush's approval rating dipped in the poll below a mid-September ranking of 40 percent. The survey also found only 28 percent of respondents believed the country was headed in the right direction, NBC reported.

Bush's political challenges have been piling up in recent weeks, from criticism over his handling of Hurricane Katrina, to growing unease over rising gas prices to conservative discord over the nomination of Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Many conservatives are outraged that Bush picked the White House insider with no judicial experience instead of a judge with clear-cut conservative credentials who could be counted on to move the high court firmly to the right.

Twenty-nine percent of people surveyed said Miers was qualified to serve on the highest court in the United States, while 24 percent thought she was not qualified and 46 percent said they did not know enough about her, NBC said.

The poll also found that strong majorities did not believe that recent charges against former House Republican leader Tom DeLay of Texas or a federal investigation of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, were politically motivated, NBC said.

DeLay has been indicted in Texas on money-laundering and conspiracy charges linked to campaign financing. Frist is being investigated over a stock sale.

With the 2006 congressional elections a year away, 48 percent of respondents said they preferred a Democratic-controlled Congress, compared with 39 percent who said they preferred Republican leadership, NBC said.

The 9-point difference was the largest margin between the parties in the 11 years the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll had been tracking the question, NBC said.

The poll of 807 adults was conducted from Saturday to Monday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antibush; bush; poll
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1 posted on 10/12/2005 8:32:01 PM PDT by counterpunch
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To: counterpunch

I find it slightly amusing that ABC is so giddy about this that they're citing a rival network's poll. LOL


2 posted on 10/12/2005 8:32:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: counterpunch

He's doomed. We better get ready for President Kerry.


3 posted on 10/12/2005 8:33:45 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: AntiGuv

This is a Reuters story.
I happened to come across it on a Google news search.
I had dozens of sources to choose from.
This just so happens to be the one I chose.

It was a diversity pick.


4 posted on 10/12/2005 8:35:30 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: West Coast Conservative

No surprise here. It's been dropping ever since Mclellon became the spokesman. I said it before and I'll say it again. "He needs to go". The press LOVE him.


5 posted on 10/12/2005 8:35:48 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: counterpunch
Oh. Another poll thread. I sense everybody is getting tired. Maybe it's just my eyelids ;-)

Looks like the same MSNBC poll that was the site for earlier Mires festivities.

6 posted on 10/12/2005 8:36:28 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: All

Exit polls do say that kerry will be the next president


7 posted on 10/12/2005 8:36:54 PM PDT by italianquaker (Bush Derangement syndrome coming to a theatre near you)
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To: counterpunch
Funny how no one ever pays attention to Rassmussen who does the same poll day after day the same way. Instead they cherry pick their polls to find the one which gives them the results they want to believe are true. That's ok, it is going to be really amusing to watch reality slap them in the face.
8 posted on 10/12/2005 8:36:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: counterpunch

... MSM is on crack these days


9 posted on 10/12/2005 8:38:22 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: AntiGuv
Let them be giddy and let them rub their hands in glee until they have bone to bone contact. One major event like capture of Zarqawi or Bin Laden, or better situation in Iraq by next year, or even decline in gas prices, and all this glee and joy will turn into utter desperation and defeat. Remember that the liberals, their media whores, and sadly some knee jerk conservatives have declared the end of President Bush so many times in the the last five years, they declared their early fake victories, and have their fake orgasms only to be faced later on with the bitter reality of their own crushing defeat.
10 posted on 10/12/2005 8:39:48 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: counterpunch

The Liberals must be really happy.


11 posted on 10/12/2005 8:40:09 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: counterpunch

That does it! I will never vote for Bush again!!!


12 posted on 10/12/2005 8:40:14 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: counterpunch

MSNBC POLL. Five points under, minimum.


13 posted on 10/12/2005 8:40:53 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: counterpunch

With these numbers, I guess Bush chances in 2008 are slim........


14 posted on 10/12/2005 8:41:08 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: MaineVoter2002

I absolutely agree!
That guy may be the most boring person to ever hold that job, not to mention the fact that he has problems making cohesive sentences. Bring back Ari.


15 posted on 10/12/2005 8:41:42 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: counterpunch

Forgot to mention that the sample was a slim 800 people on a weekend - better make that 10 points off.


16 posted on 10/12/2005 8:42:04 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: counterpunch

So they're finally going to get some mileage out of Paul Wellstones crash-and-burn?


17 posted on 10/12/2005 8:42:09 PM PDT by digger48
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To: jveritas

Yeah. This is nothing new. YAWN!!!!!


18 posted on 10/12/2005 8:42:53 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: blogblogginaway

That's pretty good. I recently wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper, telling him that his daily attacks on President Bush had convinced me not to vote for him in'08. A couple of days later, some brain-dead leftie wrote in to tell me Bush could not run in'08 and that I was an idiot for not knowing that. Jeeze.


19 posted on 10/12/2005 8:43:32 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ruschpa

He's the media's punching bag. He's hurting this whole movement...or what's left of it now.

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html


20 posted on 10/12/2005 8:43:49 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: counterpunch
You have to wonder about people who always clutch onto polls hoping to get some satisfaction from it.
21 posted on 10/12/2005 8:44:03 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (It was a village of idiots that raised Hillary to Senator status.)
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To: counterpunch
And in a recent "poll" nobody watches the old media per an old media pres.

"Moonves said he was frustrated, saying that the average age of the news viewer -- on all three evening newscasts -- was about 60".

22 posted on 10/12/2005 8:45:05 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: MJY1288

Unless he dumps Cheney from the ticket (recycled sarcasm).


23 posted on 10/12/2005 8:45:18 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: counterpunch

Looks like I was right - five points difference.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

The key loss is with Republicans. My guess is that his attempt to nominate a "moderate" justice torpedoed his approval ratings.

If you look at the ratings, they were starting to climb back into the upper forties/ fifties - but then the whole nomination thing hit.

instead of firing up his base, he lost at least ten, maybe twenty "approval" points from the base. Not smart.


24 posted on 10/12/2005 8:45:33 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: MaineVoter2002
No surprise here. It's been dropping ever since Mclellon became the spokesman.

Soon to replace "It's Bush's fault"

With, "It's Mclellon's fault".

25 posted on 10/12/2005 8:46:29 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: counterpunch

I bet alot of the polls numbers have to do with conservatives unhappy with Bush and the Miers nod and the Katrina financing proposals.


26 posted on 10/12/2005 8:46:56 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: counterpunch

I used to hate "polls." Now that there is such a huge selection of them to chose from, I don't hate them anymore. There's a "poll" for everyone! Take your pick!


27 posted on 10/12/2005 8:47:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: MaineVoter2002
I need to add him to my list of bad Bush hires.

Here is my list so far (for all those who say "trust Bush's judgement!):

Paul O'Neill, Harvey Pitt, Norm Mineta, Colin Powell, Richard Clarke, George Tenet, Richard Armitage, John Ashcroft, Bernard Kerik, Michael Brown, David Safavian, Tom Ridge, Alberto Gonzales, Julie Myers, Harriet Miers, Scott McClellan.

Anyone I'm missing?
28 posted on 10/12/2005 8:49:20 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: counterpunch
A recent poll in my house (Me, The Wife and The Black Devil Cat From The Nether Regions) show a complete disdain for polls.

No politician worth a tinker's cuss cares about them.

Nobody with a lick of sense cares about them in non-election years.
29 posted on 10/12/2005 8:49:46 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

LOL, You remember that too :-)


30 posted on 10/12/2005 8:50:00 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: counterpunch
The poll of 807 adults

.000002% of the American population. Not even close to being valid.

31 posted on 10/12/2005 8:50:05 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: counterpunch

The bleeding isn't going to stop until the Miers' nomination is pulled and a proven originalist put up her place. Further alienating the base will mean the numbers don't recover.


32 posted on 10/12/2005 8:51:38 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: SALChamps03

"The poll of 807 adults"

...........in midtown Manhattan.........during the weekend.....


33 posted on 10/12/2005 8:52:06 PM PDT by headstamp
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To: ozzymandus

ROFL!!! That is priceless!


34 posted on 10/12/2005 8:52:22 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: counterpunch
The poll of 807 adults was conducted from Saturday to Monday...

At least they polled adults...

35 posted on 10/12/2005 8:53:24 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Ol' Sparky
Then in order for you to be right you must wish very hard that we do not capture Bin Laden or Zarqawi, or the situation in Iraq get better (and it will get much better by early next year), or even reduction in gas prices. Wish very hard that nothing good happen to America so you can enjoy the artificially low approval number for President Bush.
36 posted on 10/12/2005 8:57:01 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: counterpunch

Hopefully more conservatives will begin to see the light and shun Bush and the Republicans.


37 posted on 10/12/2005 8:58:49 PM PDT by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: counterpunch

I'm sure all the DUmmies that frequent FreeRepublic and refer to themselves as 3rd party conservatives are dancing over this...


38 posted on 10/12/2005 8:59:08 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: counterpunch
Anyone I'm missing?

Since you're including Clinton holdovers like Mineta and Clarke, better add Leandro Aragoncillo.
39 posted on 10/12/2005 8:59:18 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Black Tooth

The Liberal Strategy is now clear: keep the "Bush is hated all over the USA" drumbeat dripping daily by their MSM Propagandists, hoping that sets Democrats up as the "You HAVE to vote for us because our polling tells us you think Bush Sucks" alternative in forthcoming elections.

This sleight-of-hand is all they've got. Their real aim is to get away with "winning" by NOT presenting ideas, solutions or agendas. How many times has Rush recounted congressional Democrats recently meeting "behind closed doors" to "decide what they stand for" (which is code for "how can we plausibly deny or disguise what we REALLY stand for?").

The only question for conservatives is: can such a tactic weaken our resolve so as to stay home on election days?


40 posted on 10/12/2005 9:00:03 PM PDT by antonico
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To: counterpunch

I wouldn't expect anything else from the Chicken Broadcasting Network.


41 posted on 10/12/2005 9:01:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: counterpunch

The president has no power, the president has no power, the president has no power - that's the mantra from the media. Yet congress, both Republican and Democrat, are polling at least seven points behind the president.

But Bush has no political capital to spend. What crud.


42 posted on 10/12/2005 9:01:37 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Scott M. is the worse I have ever seen and it is like he has someting caught in his rectum.


43 posted on 10/12/2005 9:01:55 PM PDT by NixonsAngryGhost (WARNING- Arlen Specters Brain is Radioactive)
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To: ruschpa
...I absolutely agree! That guy may be the most boring person to ever hold that job, not to mention the fact that he has problems making cohesive sentences. Bring back Ari.

I AGREE AGAIN

Never liked this guy.. we need someone with and explosive personality and agile intelligence... some one like Rumsfeld, who makes them look the fools they are. I LOVE to watch Rumsfeld spar with the fools of the media... :) , they simply can't compete with him.

44 posted on 10/12/2005 9:03:19 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: jveritas
There are a heck of a lot of people on Free Republic who are just as gleeful over every bad piece of news for the United States be it deaths in Iraq, hurricanes, gas prices, etc. as the Democrats ever were. They hate the President, anyone who is Republican, and anyone who doesn't agree with their narrow minded agenda. Of course most have been Republican haters ever since Pat Buchanan became persona non grata to everyone except his kook followers and liberals who need a so called "conservative" puppet.
45 posted on 10/12/2005 9:07:42 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: counterpunch

Rove.


46 posted on 10/12/2005 9:08:17 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: counterpunch

Does anyone really care what these polls say any more? They make such a big deal about them, then we trounce them come election time. So what's the point?


47 posted on 10/12/2005 9:08:46 PM PDT by Jewelsetter
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To: counterpunch; All

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . I wonder why ABCNews is publicizing another network's poll?!


FYI:

1.) NBC JA comparatives:

last poll: 40% approve 55% disapprove (-15)
this poll: 39% approve 54% disapprove (-15)

SINCE WHEN DOES 'NO CHANGE' CONSTITUTE A "PLUNGE"?!


2.) Polling methodology:

In typical MSM fashion, the MSNBC website DOES NOT provide sampling data other than
a.) the poll featured an atypically high MOE of over 4% vs the standard 3%, and
b.) the poll was conducted over a HOLIDAY WEEKEND -- a major NO NO in the polling business.


BOTTOMLINE: This poll was purposely designed to shape public opinion NOT gather valid polling results!


HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE . . .

FROM POWERLINE JUST TODAY:

But are Bush's numbers really that bad? His current Real Clear Politics average stands at 41.7% approval. That is at or about the low point in nearly five years in office. How does it compare to other presidents' lowest poll ratings? Actually, it's not bad. Here are the low approval ratings for the last seven presidents:

*Johnson: 35%
*Nixon: 24%
*Ford: 37%
*Carter: 28%
*Reagan: 35%
*Bush I: 29%
*Clinton: 37%

Yes, that's right: Every president since 1963 has had approval ratings, at one time or another during his administration, at least five points lower than Bush's current nadir.

http://powerlineblog.com/



48 posted on 10/12/2005 9:09:15 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: counterpunch

Add the margin of error, and factor in the usual 10% MSM bias, and it's comfortabley above 50%. Nothing to worry about. And if we can get all the conservatives to quite whining and get behind our president, it'll be even higher than that.


49 posted on 10/12/2005 9:13:34 PM PDT by balch3
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To: balch3
get all the conservatives to quite whining and get behind our president

Why? The President is not behind conservative causes.

50 posted on 10/12/2005 9:15:53 PM PDT by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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