The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects

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[megatherium]

Please more details concerning the unreliability of the Pietrzyk article, and a detailed defense of Cameron.

I am particularly surprised to read (in your post #119) that Cameron did not claim that homosexual men die on average at 42 -- I have read this statistic many times attributed to Cameron by people posting on FR.

[scripter]

Please more details concerning the unreliability of the Pietrzyk article, and a detailed defense of Cameron.

I just provided you with some details. You can read Cameron's site here: FRI.

I am particularly surprised to read (in your post #119) that Cameron did not claim that homosexual men die on average at 42 -- I have read this statistic many times attributed to Cameron by people posting on FR.

After reading my post 119, I have no idea why you wrote the above.

[scripter]

You may find the following of interest as well.

Reviews of: Destructive Trends in Mental Health: The Well-Intentioned Path to Harm:

Dr. Throckmorton
Michael Brickey
NARTH

[Coleus]

The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

Who are they asking? Back in college, maybe 8 partners in a semester. >>>

yep, that's why in the US there are 15 million people infected with one or more STDs each year; roughly half of whom contract lifelong infections.


and why there are an estimated 45 million (one in every four adults) Americans currently infected with Genital Herpes

(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2004, 36(1)6-10.)


and why there are 1.2 million abortions per year, and why there is a planned parenthood near most large universities.

[megatherium]

I'm confused about the 42 years business, I thought you were saying Cameron made no such claim and I thought he did.

I'll get to Cameron's site later. But I have a copy of Satinover's book Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth, and he doesn't cite or mention Cameron (or at least that name does not appear in the bibliography or index). Likewise, the Stanton Jones and Mark Yarhouse book, Homosexuality: The Use of Scientific Research in the Church's Moral Debate. (Both books are opposed to homosexuality; both are recommended.) A Google search on the keywords "Cameron site:www.narth.com" turns up precious little (only four or five articles that cite him; other familiar names such as Satinover or Nicolosi produce dozens or hundreds of hits). This makes me remain suspicious of Cameron.

[megatherium]

Thank you for the links -- I'll read them when I have time.

[BikerNYC]

Then their data collection methods are not terribly accurate, if they are reporting that an average heterosexual person has only 8 partners in a lifetime.

[Coleus]

Well, then, I guess you were a stud in college and above average. what can I say?

Up until the 1960's most people had only ONE partner, their spouses. Ask your grandparents if they're still around or anyone you know who were married before the 1960's.

[Coleus]

Just remembering, not every single homosexual person are going to follow those numbers. >>

Most do

take a look at the Caucasian statistics. If we pulled them up we'd find some interesting numbers as well. >>

OK, let's take a look, why don't you post them?

Are you a homosexual?

[Dustbunny]

I knew it was bad, I did not realize how bad. They are an abomination.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It would help if the article's references were factual.

The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24).

(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.

The 1990 Statistical Abstract of the U.S. doesn't mention homosexuals in its income section. Male, Female, Black, and Hispanic are all there is. (Or perhaps, I just didn't find the right table.)

This brings into question the other statistics quoted.

[Coleus]

good point, you may want to contact them regarding that particular reference.

http://www.catholicintl.com/aboutus/staff.htm

[diamond6]

So sad.

[Doctor Stochastic]

This article has been around for a while. Groups like this generally don't bother to check statistics; they assume that no one else will. I just happen to have read the last two census reports.

It's not a peer-reviewed scientific article, just a fund-raiser.

[cameronmiguel]

I stumbled across this site while doing some research. I think you all might be able to help me. It seems you have more knowledge on this topic than I have yet attained.

I'm writing an article for my campus newspaper. I want to tell the facts about homosexuality. I know enough to know that it's dangerous, deadly even, and my generation is dying without ever knowing what they are doing. I don't know how much Scriptural evidence I want to include, but I haven't had a problem locating that. As I'm sure you have found, it seems quite difficult to get accurate scientific, medical, and statistical information about homosexuality, AIDS, etc. I guess I'm coming at it from the "This is more dangerous than anyone ever told you it was" standpoint. I would greatly value your help!