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DeLay's prosecutors lack a key document
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | 14 October 2005 | R.G. RATCLIFFE

Posted on 10/14/2005 9:14:31 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior

They don't have list of candidates at the heart of the laundering case, just a 'similar' one

AUSTIN - Travis County prosecutors admitted Friday they lack physical proof of a list of Republican candidates that is at the heart of money-laundering indictments against U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay and two of his associates.

The list is key to prosecutors being able to prove that corporate money that could not be legally spent on Texas candidates was specifically exchanged at the national level for donations that legally could be spent on Republican candidates for the Texas House.

Indictments against DeLay, Jim Ellis and John Colyandro state that Ellis gave "a document that contained the names of several candidates for the Texas House" to a Republican National Committee official in 2002 in a scheme to swap $190,000 in restricted corporate money for the same amount of money from individuals that could be legally used by Texas candidates.

But prosecutors said Friday in court that they only had a "similar" list and not the one allegedly received by then-RNC Deputy Director Terry Nelson.

A lawyer for Ellis said prosecutors' inability to produce the list mentioned in the indictments is on par with the tactics used by U.S. Sen. Joseph McCarthy in the communist witch hunts of the 1950s.

"I'll tell you what I think about this list. In the 1950s, a man named McCarthy claimed to have a list of 200 communists in the State Department, and he didn't," said J.D. Pauerstein, a lawyer for Jim Ellis, the director of DeLay's Americans for a Republican Majority. "They (prosecutors) don't know what list they're talking about, even though they specify it in their indictment."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delay; demodirtyschemes; earle; fakebutaccurate; hammer; lol; prosecutormisconduct; ronnieearle
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To: Colonial Warrior
Never mind the fake but true aspect; it is the seriouosness of the charges...




...that will sink Earle

41 posted on 10/14/2005 9:53:56 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: RichInOC

LOL ! ! !


42 posted on 10/14/2005 9:58:08 PM PDT by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

The 'memo-gate' moments keep coming and coming. Kinko's must be doing one hell of a lot of business these days.

'List-gate' perhaps?


43 posted on 10/14/2005 9:58:18 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Colonial Warrior
"Travis County prosecutors admitted Friday they lack physical proof of a list of Republican candidates that is at the heart of money-laundering indictments against U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay and two of his associates."

Oh, who needs a piffling detail like that anyway.

44 posted on 10/14/2005 10:02:39 PM PDT by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

OOOPsie!


45 posted on 10/14/2005 10:03:24 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Colonial Warrior
"DeLay's prosecutors lack a key document"

A little something we like to call..PROOF! Put some ice on that Ronnie,

Your friend Bill

46 posted on 10/14/2005 10:05:13 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Colonial Warrior
But prosecutors said Friday in court that they only had a "similar" list

They got it a Kinko's. I would think that Texas has rules of evidence.

47 posted on 10/14/2005 10:05:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Lurker

Uh...Mr. Earle has retained me...as his spokesmoose. Mr. Earle is not available....in the state...in hiding.....ooooh. Where's the squirrel?

48 posted on 10/14/2005 10:06:19 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: Colonial Warrior

>>>"I'll tell you what I think about this list. In the 1950s, a man named McCarthy claimed to have a list of 200 communists in the State Department, and he didn't"<<<

Bad example. McCarthy was generally correct in his claims; and his crusade was not political, but one of honoring his oath of office. Anyone who takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution must be an enemy of communism, by default.


49 posted on 10/14/2005 10:06:35 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: Colonial Warrior

LOL ! This is unreal.

The guy gets an indictment without having the evidence he claims to have.

I wonder how the MSM is going to spin this one. This should be interesting to watch.


50 posted on 10/14/2005 10:07:56 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Liberal definition of looting: " Self-help Humanitarian Aid.")
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To: pepsionice

I have an old Windows 98 computer in the closet. Call me Ronnie!


51 posted on 10/14/2005 10:08:54 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: ErnBatavia

Brit had it on Fox earlier. He did a real good job not to LOL during the report. I think I did hear a few snickers, though. :-)


52 posted on 10/14/2005 10:09:05 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Lurker

He was right. The Venona files gleaned from the Russian intelligence archives showed he was "mostly" right. The State Dept. was full of Commies.

But he made the same mistake the Austin, TX "Gang that couldn't shoot straight" has. You don't claim to have evidence you can't produce or that doesn't exist.


53 posted on 10/14/2005 10:11:10 PM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: JCEccles
"Isn't this the sort of tactic that brought Dan Rather down? "

WHO???

54 posted on 10/14/2005 10:11:27 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Colonial Warrior
"I'll tell you what I think about this list. In the 1950s, a man named McCarthy claimed to have a list of 200 communists in the State Department, and he didn't,"

I thought that it 57.... D'OH! That was James Gregory, in "The Manchurian Candidate", becuase he liked Heinz Ketchup...

No... It was J. Edgar Hoover, becuse he liked Ketchup on his Cottage Cheese.... Or was that Nixon?

Dang it!!!... It was typed up on someone's LapTop, because they didn't have access to an IBW Selectic Typewriter!!!!

Earle hasn't got a clue... Or a prayer!

Jack.

55 posted on 10/14/2005 10:12:26 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Jrabbit

On Brit's show they said Earle doesn't have the real list, but they have somebody who saw it. LOL Is this for real?


56 posted on 10/14/2005 10:12:53 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Hattie

"If the list is missing, you must be dismissing!"


57 posted on 10/14/2005 10:16:16 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Colonial Warrior
Even if Earle had a list of names and donations, it would still not be proof people broke the law. Besides, the Republican Party Of Texas is certain to fight any demand for records on the same grounds the NAACP fought the State Of Alabama back in the 1950s: freedom of association and expectation of member privacy.

(Denny Crane: "I like nature. Don't talk about the environment.")
58 posted on 10/14/2005 10:16:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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