OU student left suicide message

The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

[LibertyRocks]

That's not actually that bad considering it's an AP story. LOL

They still could've left in the part about the "cursor still blinking", but that I guess raises too many questions...

I'm still waiting to see ONE reporter from the MSM ask any hardball questions. I wonder if they ever will. I feel for Hinrichs father, I mean it must be extremely difficult, but if I were him I'd like to get some answers regarding his son's roommate - I mean this could even be a case of murder or a set-up! Just look at that kid they arrested overseas who said he was drugged and forced to participate in a suicide bombing!

Perhaps with time he will have enough strength to look at some of the questions we've raised. Perhaps with time the questions will come to him on their own seeing as he is a bright individual... One can only hope. Questions coming from Hinrichs father may be the only way the truth will come out, I hope he is courageous enough to try and understand where we are all coming from.

[LibertyRocks]

"but if I were him I'd like to get some answers regarding his son's roommate"

That should have probably included - "and some of the other glaring discrepancies that have been reported".

[Rte66]

The bench was outside of George Lynn Cross Hall. Why did you think that was wrong?

Also, Cheema was not arrested--none of them were. He was held for questioning, that's all. The others were questioned by their own volition.

[Rte66]

I think it's funny that his dad thinks the "networks" get their information from "blogs." Yeah, right.

[LibertyRocks]

No they do not.

[LibertyRocks]

I never said it was wrong, it's just that that is the original statement used by the AP when they were trying to make it seem like he was nowhere near the stadium.

No, perhaps technically they weren't arrested, but according to the following statement I wouldn't say they were questioned by their own volition... Does anyone really have a choice when they are handcuffed and being held at gunpoint???

"A University of Oklahoma instructor from Egypt said he and others of foreign descent were handcuffed at gunpoint and questioned after the OU bomb blast Oct. 1, but added he is not bitter." - "Bad timing blamed for group's detainment", The Oklahoman Oct. 13, 2005

[LibertyRocks]

Yeah, that is kinda funny isn't it? We'd all be in trouble if that were the case. Gosh knows I tend to be a little dramatic at times here at FR! (o;

[LibertyRocks]

Well, I'm getting a little cranky now in case you couldn't tell by my little outburst up the thread a bit directed at OU Daily's staff - maybe a little over the top and I will apologize for the childish remarks, but their spin is making me rather dizzy and nauseous - perhaps it's not the young students' fault, but the tone of their last editorial really left a bad taste in my mouth hence my attitude...

Have a good morning everyone, I'm off for some much needed rest.

[LibertyRocks]

You know, it kinda bugged me so before I went to bed I double checked the definition of arrest and I would say it fits in this case... I stand by my previous statement that they were indeed arrested and brought in for questioning (not by choice as you implied in your post).

Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
Main Entry: 1ar·rest
Pronunciation: &-'rest
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French arest, from arester to stop, seize, arrest, ultimately from Latin ad to, at + restare to stay
: the restraining and seizure of a person whether or not by physical force by someone acting under authority (as a police officer) in connection with a crime in such a manner that it is reasonable under the circumstances for the person to believe that he or she is not free to leave —see also MIRANDA WARNINGS probable cause at CAUSE 2, WARRANT —compare STOP

[50sDad]

Who elected you dictator.

That's a joke, son.

[Americanexpat]

I agree, they were arrested, they just weren't charged with a crime.

Funny how the FBI and Boren had been telling us for about two weeks there was no suicide note and now there is one.

If it were left on the computer screen the FBI had to have know the first night and lied about it. If the FBI had just un plugged the computer and taken it with them then the message would have been lost unless saved to the hard drive.

Instead of stopping speculation and mistrust they authorities have done nothing but re enforce it.

[Hatteras]

"We're to assume he left the message on a live screen without saving or printing?"

Why would he need to save it or print it? It's not like he's going to use it again...

[maggief]

I guess his system never crashes.

[billbears]

The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.

No links to terrorist groups

FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket. FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.

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Spin alert--again.

So the father has come out saying his son just wanted to off himself, the FBI has stated again the young man wasn't tied to terrorists, but it's spin.

And for the record, if I was the father I wouldn't be telling the media exactly what was in the note either. What if it was something personal about the family as the reason given? Those would have been my exact words if the media had asked me and I had been in that situation

But it's all spin. And only 'those in the know' fully grasp the situation....

[milford421]

"Why would he need to save it or print it? It's not like he's going to use it again..."

Then again, why would he leave a huge stash of explosives in his apartment? It's not like he's every going to use them again...

[milford421]

Sorry, EVER...

[Admin Moderator]

Hint: watch the language

[md2576]

The curser was still blinking on the screen of his suicide note??
Where's his Pakistani roommate at now? He, or anyone, could have written it. I don't believe he can't remember what it said either.

[Grampa Dave]

" "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living,""

Weird choice of words. When we see something posted in that context, it is often posted by someone not born in this country.

[Nancie Drew]

When you wake up, check this out. Here is an article to add to your archives. It is from the Oklahoma Gazette who always goes overboard to be politically correct. As you can tell from their tongue-in-cheek comments in their "Chicken-Fried News", they are not buying the FBI/Boren line:

http://www.okgazette.com/builder/BuilderCFN.asp?DocDate=10/17/2005&Prefix=CFN&PathIn=F:\InetPub\wwwroot\inex008\builder\DocIn&RelPathIn=builder/DocIn&MenuDate=10/17/2005