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BREAK IRAQ UP
Orbat ^ | Ravi Rikhiye

Posted on 10/27/2005 1:06:59 PM PDT by swarthyguy

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To: Siena Dreaming

Break up each state too, We don't want, need, or claim Detroit.


21 posted on 10/27/2005 1:21:11 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: clee1

Brother, do we think alike. I am sick of hearing about the entire stinking middle east. Rape, murder, cut off heads, suicide bombers, etc. I am sick of it. adnauseum on the TV, radio, papers, etc. Simply tired of it. Let's start a new newspaper and TV news channel. Nothing but good news is reported. Sports scores, we will say something like, White Sox win, but not tell who they beat. Heck, it is all simply growing old. Same ole, same ole, day after day after stinking day.


22 posted on 10/27/2005 1:21:47 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Socialist Dems, the MSM and Islamic murderers, ALL threats to the Republic!)
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To: swarthyguy

Wow this little diatribe sounds familiar... Now where have I heard these lines before...


23 posted on 10/27/2005 1:24:04 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: ASA Vet

Nope, General Odom sends his regards.


24 posted on 10/27/2005 1:25:16 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy

78% of the Iraqi voters, approved of the interum constitution... what were these people hoping for 99%? Go to the back of the class.


25 posted on 10/27/2005 1:28:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Siena Dreaming

Now that is a good idea!


26 posted on 10/27/2005 1:29:24 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: jmc1969

"The entire Middle of Iraq would be an endless war zone"


Some people actually want that, that way they have something to oppose. Others want it so that they can keep the worlds eyes on things other than the rulers and adnimistrators of Islam.

Breaking up Iraq is silly talk. Three semi autonimous regions within a state, forming a whole state is far more plausible. 50 states make up this nation, there is no reason why three "states" cannot make up the State of Iraq.
Call them regions, call them counties, call them parishes, call them whatever you like. Iraq will remain whole, Iraq will remain free, and Iraq will move forward on a path of progress according to the will of its people as a whole.

The constitution passage is a clear example that this part of the overall plan is succeeding. This writing is just bluster trying to hold onto the failed idea that it was somehow wrong to oust Saddam.


27 posted on 10/27/2005 1:31:54 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: jmc1969

Thats easy to fix now isnt it ;)


28 posted on 10/27/2005 1:32:37 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: swarthyguy

That is a dumb idea, Turkey would freak over a kurdistan and Iran would pretty control if not annex the Shia areas given them huge oil wealth. Sunni's would be a terrorists nation beyond imagine.


29 posted on 10/27/2005 1:32:50 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: jbwbubba

Glad Abraham Lincoln didn't think the same


30 posted on 10/27/2005 1:33:19 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Lazamataz

Or the Glimmer Twins masterpice

Between Iraq and a hard place!


31 posted on 10/27/2005 1:33:36 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Tell the country, dude, 2000 dead with no end in sight.

Exactly how many terrorist attacks have occurred on American soil since 9/11?

32 posted on 10/27/2005 1:34:12 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: clee1

"Personally, I'd just nuke the whole region flat-n-glassy. "

Why aren't YOU running things? You got my vote! :)


33 posted on 10/27/2005 1:37:05 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: swarthyguy

Gee, we lost 3000 people in two hours on 9/11/01.

We have lost 2000 military heroes since the start of the latest Iraq war.

We went halfway around the world with no real support other than England to route a murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of his own and other country's people. That is hundreds of thousands of people. That's a lot bigger number than 2000. We did this in three months and then stuck around and occupied Iraq with 120,00 soldiers and lots of airforce and navy hardware in the wings.

We treated the terrorists (freedom fighters to you?) with kid gloves when we could have wiped the mat with them just so that we wouldn't seem too brutal and islamofascistic.

What other country could have taken the Taliban out of Afghanistan in a few months and installed a government with elections and what is looking like a stability they haven't seen in years?

Iraq has had elections, an electorate approved constitution, and elections in December for a real parliment. All this has been accomplished because of a president with some balls who recognizes evil for what it is. He recognizes that there must be sacrifice.

2000 brave heroes have been killed with a few thousand more wounded. I get so tired of Americans who look at these heros and say no more, bring them home, my p???y hurts. Its not worth it.

490,000 dead in WWII, 25,000 dead in Korea, 55,000 in Vietnam, 2000 dead in Iraq. That's the reality of being on the cutting edge of freedom when the rest of the world is either trying to take it away from their citizens through repression or socialism.

I know it hurts to see these brave men and women die or get maimed. Its necessary. Read "The History of Civilisation" and one realizes that man has always killed his fellow man and will continue to kill his fellow man in the future. Its not gonna stop.

As far as Iraq goes, once the elections are over in December and a parliament works, I think that you will see the American troop level drop. Its not going to drop that much because of Iran. I for one want a large American presence in the mideast.

I get tired of Americans that aren't willing to sacrifice. If there would have been some sacrifice and balls in the early '30's, Hitler wouldn't have come around. You can't treat evil with kid gloves. It has to be killed.


34 posted on 10/27/2005 1:37:09 PM PDT by montomike
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To: swarthyguy
Damn ~ I'm glad a clueless moonbat like you isn't in charge!

We and the Iraqi's are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ millions of Iraqi's turned out and voted successfully for a Constitutional Referendum!

Iraqi voters have ratified a new constitution by a margin of nearly 4 to 1!

Trolls, terrorists, democrat moonbat's, suicide bombers, and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

Let The Good Times Roll!

35 posted on 10/27/2005 1:39:40 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Sorry, that's already been tried....1861


36 posted on 10/27/2005 1:40:38 PM PDT by JackHawk ("Some Times; War is the answer!")
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To: swarthyguy

The problem with facts is that there are just too dern many of them. I don't care what happened after WWI. This is the 21st century. Let's at least make our decisions based on more current observations.


37 posted on 10/27/2005 1:41:29 PM PDT by KarinG1
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To: swarthyguy
Actually, the British were not so much interested in oil - which no one knew much about oil in Iraq - as they were in access from Palestine to the Persian Gulf.
As everyone knows India was the Jewel in the Crown. The British had two routes to India: through the Suez Canal and around the Cape.
They hoped to add a third: by rail from Palestine/Israel across the Syrian desert, down the Fertile Crescent, and ending a Basra.
Anyone looking at a map knows that such a route would be expensive to build and impossible to defend (it could be cut at a thousand places) but such was the mentality of the British at the end of WWI.
This route also explains why the British were willing to promise Damascus to the Arabs. The British had no interest in Syria, which has always been a fixation of the French and not the British.
And as long as the British held the Mediterranean coast in Palestine/Israel/Trans-Jordan, then the Arabs could have Damascus.
38 posted on 10/27/2005 1:41:51 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: blackie; montomike

That's the ticket.

Let's keep soliders dying for an artifical country created by the Britishers.

Beautiful. Americans dying for an archaic colonial creation.

Let me know when we win.


39 posted on 10/27/2005 1:43:07 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: KamperKen

I have said it before, I'll say it again:

The world had best be glad I'm not the POTUS - On Sept. 12, 2001 (9-11 is my birthday) - from the western border of Israel to the eastern border of India, and from the southern border of Russia to the Indian Ocean - all would be converted to a glass parking lot.

Select African and Asian nations would be told to get the 7th century savages in their midst under control or they would be next.

The world is too small a place today, and WMD's are too easily obtained to allow Nations to continue their uncivilized behavior. Such countries are an intolerable threat to our freedom.


40 posted on 10/27/2005 1:43:38 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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