Posted on 11/03/2005 11:27:05 AM PST by kemathen7
OLYMPIA, Wash. The Washington state Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that a woman who raised a child from birth to age 6 while in a relationship with the girl's biological mother can seek parental rights as a "de facto parent (search)," essentially creating a new class of parent in the state.
"Today we hold that our common law recognizes the status of de facto parents and places them in parity with biological and adoptive parents in our state," the court, led by Justice Bobbe J. Bridge, wrote in the 7-2 decision. "Neither the United States Supreme Court nor this court has ever held that 'family' or 'parents' are terms limited in their definition by a strict biological prerequisite."
Sue Ellen Carvin (search), who goes by "Mian," sued her former partner, Page Britain (search), in King County Superior Court in November 2002, alleging that Britain had unfairly cut off access to Britain's biological daughter, identified in court papers as L.B.
The two had been together for about six years when they decided to raise a child together. Britain was artificially inseminated and gave birth in 1995. For the next several years, Carvin stayed home to raise the girl, who called her "Mama" and Britain "Mommy."
But a year and a half ago, Britain and Carvin split. Britain married the sperm donor and subsequently barred Carvin from seeing L.B.
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I forget the case name, but not too long ago the SCOTUS
shot down Washingtons `grandparents visitation' statute,
so an appeal here is a certainty I'd think.
Yours is a valid argument in favor of denying custody to the one partner. But, these lesbos who do this want it both ways. specifically:
A case in Sweden where they sued the sperm donor for child support. He lost.
Now this one. Sorry these people want to live their "lifestyle" without the responsibilities, then they hide behind or run to the courts when they change their minds. No. They made a decision, they should have to abide by the decision and not deny the woman who raised the child visitation.
I doubt the little girl would be 'forced' to have a relationship with her. If the woman was good to her and treated her with love, the little girl probably loves her. If she grows to 'hate' the lesbian, it would be because of the attitude of the 'biological parents.' (Same dynamics as when hetero couples split and mom talks bad about the guy the kid thought of as dad all along.)
OK... I see your point.
My apologies.
if you have a serious question I will be glad to address it.
Thank you.
If gays want the same "rights", they should suffer the same legal consequences. Wanna get married? Then file taxes jointly (can anyone say marriage penalty?). Wanna split up? Then get a legal divorce, risk getting charged with bigamy, pay child support, split community property assets, be co-responsible for the other partner's debts, etc. etc. (No, I'm not advocating gay marriage.)
Until now, you were right. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Just auess, but I wonder if mommy was having an affair with the "sperm donor". It doesn't say anything about artificial insemination in here.
I'm with you. They can't have it both ways. You wanna play the pipe, you have to pay the piper.
A drama very much like this unfolded at my work earlier this year. Lesbian "family" with the biological mother and her partner each being "mommy" and then they split (the pretend mommy works here). Talk about a soap opera.
The point you are leaving out is that the one 'partner' has no relationship whatsoever to the child. She is now, and always has been, no more than a long term baby sitter.
Should nannies have rights to the children they supervise? I think not.
Secondly, the 'partner' practices a lifestyle that has been shown to be detrimental to children. Homosexuals have a higher incidence of also being child molesters and because of this, for the sake of our children, every homosexual must be considered a child molester. It would be evil to put this child in a sitiation where she will certainly be molested. If not by the 'partner' then by one or more of the 'partners' friends.
They should just do as a friend of mine did. She got 2 dogs, they call them "the boys". Much easier, plus it fulfills thier need to be powerful over something.
Bobbe Bridge is a well known activist judge and irresponsible alcoholic.
Its absolutely about homosexuality. Homosexuals are perverts and I am not afraid to say it. Are you aware of any lesbians in the animal kingdom?
The child deserves and intact and normal family with a father and mother. Homosexuals should not be raising children or perhaps its ok with you that children be raised by satanists or drug addicts.
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