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History Channel's Propagandist Piece on the Crusades
History Channel | November 8, 2005 | History Channel

Posted on 11/07/2005 3:06:05 AM PST by ZULU

Did anybody see that vile piece on the Crusades Sunday Night?

I had to turn it off. It was a politically pile of propagandist crap attacking the Crusades, the Christian Church and heroizing Ilsamic fanatics.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: crusaders; crusades; historychannel; islam
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1 posted on 11/07/2005 3:06:05 AM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU

I did not watch it because I had a hunch that it would be that way.


2 posted on 11/07/2005 3:07:48 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: ZULU

I saw it and I felt the same way. Almost nothing negative said about the Muslimes and a lot of negatives about the Christians. Typical and sickening.


3 posted on 11/07/2005 3:09:45 AM PST by rpellegrini
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To: ZULU
No, I avoided it and the cartoon propoganda piece on CBS about the end of the world due to evil Christians, Republicans, and big oil.

I watched War Stories about the Berlin Airlife and went to bed. Consequently my blood pressure remains normal.

4 posted on 11/07/2005 3:10:40 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: ZULU

This is History as told by the unbiased voice of Prince Charles. Can't we all lay down our arms and return to the stone age? Can we at least capitulate to a superior religious philosphy and pay jizrah under dhimmitude?


5 posted on 11/07/2005 3:12:15 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: ZULU

I figured that out from the commercial.


6 posted on 11/07/2005 3:13:17 AM PST by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

To paraphrase Rush, I know what they're gonna say befrore they say it. I didn't bother to be offended by this one.


7 posted on 11/07/2005 3:25:31 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Slump Tester

I actually thought the commercials for it looked very unbiased. I figured out it would be trash based on the fact that it was a primetime History Channel docudrama. That's always the tipoff.


8 posted on 11/07/2005 3:26:27 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: CalvaryJohn

It could have been written by Bin Laden. What a bunch of Tripe.


9 posted on 11/07/2005 3:27:52 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: Slump Tester
I figured that out from the commercial.

Me too.

"It started with a belief..."

No, it started with 100 years of radicalization of Islam, murdering pilgrims, burning of churches including the Holy Sepulcre etc. until Pope Urban II decided to do something about it.
10 posted on 11/07/2005 3:41:25 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: ZULU
"It was a politically pile of propagandist crap...."

And you are surprised because.......??

11 posted on 11/07/2005 3:51:35 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Earlier in the evening, they did two hours on the battle of Faluja and in Afghanistan, both very well done and pro Marines in Iraq and Army in Afghanistan. I was very impressed. I didnt watch the Crusades piece as that period of history doesnt interest me as much, but you couldnt expect any network to have a full evening of pro American programs.........could you?


12 posted on 11/07/2005 4:01:17 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

It started before that - when the Muslims initially overran Christian Palestine, Egypt and North Africa. When they invaded Christian Sicily and southern Italy, when they sewpt over the Iberian Peninsula and plunderd, looted and killed as far north as Tour - which is in northner France not far from Paris.

Even today these vicious killers are trying to Islamicize Ethiopia - which became one of the first Christian nations in the 300's, trying to totally Islamicize the once Christian south of the Sudan, spreading into Christian Nigeria, threatening and killing the few remaning Christian Copts in Egypt, blwoing up Islraeli civilians, trying to Islamicize the Phillipines, threatening and killing Buddhists and Hindus in southern Asia, trying to excport their evil creed into the U.S., etc. etc.


13 posted on 11/07/2005 4:01:36 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Psalm 73

No. Just surprised at how blantanly anti-western and anti-Christian it was.

I intend to send the idiots who produced it a letter.

It was rife with omissions, errors and distortions.

For instance, the moron narrating it referred to the main Cathedral in Constantinople as St. Sophia's. Its anme is Hagia Sophia and its translates as Holy Wisdom, not Saint Sophie's.


14 posted on 11/07/2005 4:05:21 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Thanks for the review, when there was post about it the other day, I said I wouldn't watch it because I figured it would be a "Why they hate us" show. If I was wrong, I'd watch it later. Another "thing to do" crossed off my list!


15 posted on 11/07/2005 4:30:47 AM PST by BallyBill (Fox News was my last hope, now I just sorta guess what is going on in the world.)
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To: ZULU

I saw the first half hour.

It was awful. Pure anti-western, anti-Christian garbage.

Every scene of Christianity was shot in some dark damp room with a light beam coming in through a solitary window. Christian leaders were either hooded or ugly and somber. Every Muslim scene was shot in bright sunlight. The murderous conquests of the Muslims were shown as a wave speading across a map - but no battle scenes.

It claimed the Crusades were the result of Rome's need to "legitimize" itself.

I HAD to turn it off when one so-called "historian", from some second rate college, explained that the reason knights and nobles left their wealth, comfort and families to risk their lives with little chance of any payback was because Pope Urban was a great motivational speaker ("better than Billy Graham").

Garbage. Garbage. Garbage.


16 posted on 11/07/2005 4:34:19 AM PST by kidd
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To: ZULU

We watched ABC's Extreme Home Makeover and PBS's Kidnapped.


17 posted on 11/07/2005 4:38:05 AM PST by csvset
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To: armydawg1
"....both very well done and pro Marines in Iraq and Army in Afghanistan."

I saw both of those - agree, very well done - but that is for fear of allienating their viewership base (males 20 - 50).
Although most will not stand for a trashing of our military, they figure (probrably wrongly) that most aren't that concerned, or are not familiar with European history - so the PC rule, well, rules.
(Ie; they get away with what they can).

19 posted on 11/07/2005 5:01:51 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: ZULU
I had to turn it off. It was a politically pile of propagandist crap attacking the Crusades

On the contrary, I had to both watch and record it to document the extent and sophistication to which the Saudi propaganda money has infiltrated our national consciousness.

How else are you going to document it?

I think Congressional probes into the financing of enemy propaganda shown on our national television is appropriate.

20 posted on 11/07/2005 5:06:47 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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