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Why France is Burning
The Daily Mail and melaniephillips.com ^ | 11/07/05 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 11/07/2005 10:49:11 AM PST by mojito

Night after night, France has been under attack by its Arab Muslim minority with the French authorities having totally lost control of the streets.

What started as an ugly localised disturbance in Clichy-sous-Bois — a grotty Paris suburb — after two Muslim youths were accidentally electrocuted has spiralled into an unprecedented national crisis. Extreme violent disorder has spread to cities such as Toulouse, Lille, Nantes, the cathedral town of Evreux in Normandy and even to the centre of Paris.

Thousands of cars have been set on fire and hundreds of people arrested across France. The rioters have torched post offices and fire stations, schools and synagogues, buses and warehouses, fired upon police, and doused a handicapped woman with petrol and set her alight.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the tough-minded Interior Minister, has been blamed for inflaming the situation by his uncompromising language. French policy in general has been blamed for herding poor Arabs into suburban ghettoes where they have been left to fester in high unemployment and poverty.

The disturbances are thus being portrayed as race riots caused by official discrimination and insensitivity. But this is a gross misreading of the situation. It is far more profound and intractable. What we are seeing is, in effect, a French intifada: an uprising by French Muslims against the state.

When the police tried to take back the streets, they were driven out with the demand that they leave what the protesters called the ‘occupied territories’. And far from the claim that the disturbances have been caused by French policy of segregating Muslims into ghettoes, this is a war being waged for separate development.

Some Muslims have even called for the introduction of the ancient Ottoman ‘millet’ system of autonomous development for different communities.

The director of the Great Mosque of Paris, Dalil Boubakeur, has previously suggested that France should be regarded as a ‘house of covenant’, by which he appears to mean that France should enter into an agreement with its Muslims to grant them autonomy within the state.

His response to the current violence is not to take steps to bring his own community under control but to suggest instead that the French government shows ‘respect’ and sends ‘a message of peace’.

But M. Sarkozy and the police are determined to take back the streets. The Muslims are equally determined to keep territory they feel they have conquered from the French state with which they feel no identification.

This crisis, however, did not start with the electrocution tragedy in Clichy-sous-Bois. It has been going on for decades. The scale of it is astonishing. Nine thousand police cars have been torched or stoned since the beginning of this year. The problem has not been M. Sarkozy’s tough approach. On the contrary — until now this permanent grumbling insurrection has simply been ignored.

For more than twenty years France’s Muslim areas have been out of control. Indeed, they only turned into Muslim ghettoes in the first place because Muslim violence and harassment forced everyone else out. And they became no-go areas for the police, seen by the Muslims as occupation forces entering their territory.

In schools in such areas, teachers trying to teach French or European history have been threatened with their lives by both pupils and their parents. In some cases young French people have converted to Islam just to escape the harassment.

Blaming an official policy of segregation is wide of the mark. The fact is that French Muslims want to be segregated. The ghettoes are a way of ensuring a separate Islamic existence without having to assimilate into French society.

The fact is that whatever policies different European countries have pursued to deal with minorities, they have not cracked this problem. France has enforced a rigid policy of state secularism and assumed that all minorities would adopt French values simply by being French.

By contrast, the British and other Europeans have adopted multiculturalism, which means giving minorities equal status to the majority, and have bent over backwards to be accommodating to them and not give offence.

Yet while France was burning, there were riots over several days in Denmark over the publication of cartoons satirising the prophet Mohammed. In the super-tolerant Netherlands, the film-maker Theo van Gogh was murdered exactly a year ago because he had made an ‘insulting’ film about Islam. The Dutch immigration minister has had to wear a bullet-proof vest after shots were fired into her office, and death threats have been made against other ministers who have spoken against Islamist violence.

In Britain, British Muslims turned themselves into human bombs last July to murder as many of their fellow citizens as they could. We are told this was because of the war in Iraq. But France was a principal opponent of that war, and yet it is now being torched from Normandy to the Mediterranean.

For every country, a different reason can be found to blame it for the attacks being mounted upon it. Yet the common factor is the hostility of Muslims to the countries in which they have settled.

Clearly, not all fall into this category. Thousands of British Muslims are highly integrated and live law-abiding and productive lives. But it is equally clear that across Europe, those moderates are either unable or unwilling to stop those who want to impose their values on the majority.

And European governments have played into their hands. As the writer Bat Ye’Or reveals in her book Eurabia, the European Union and the Arab League entered into a series of official agreements some thirty years ago guaranteeing that Muslim immigrants in Europe would not be compelled to adapt in any way ‘to the customs of the host countries.’

This is all bound up with the erosion of national identities across Europe. This has affected even France, once a ferocious proponent of French culture which was imposed through a centralised schools system, a strong police force and national military service.

But now the schools system and the police have been weakened and national service has gone. Banning the hijab (Islamic headscarf) in schools represented a flickering of the old national certainty as France sniffed the danger that had arisen in its midst. But it was too little, and maybe too late.

Even now Britain, France and the rest of Europe are still in varying stages of denial over Muslim unrest. Reluctant even to admit that religion is central to this phenomenon, they look instead for ways to blame themselves and use the insult of ‘Islamophobia’ to shut down debate.

The warning for us from the disturbing events in France could not be clearer. We must end the ruinous doctrine of multiculturalism and reassert British identity and British values — and insist that although Muslims are a valued minority, they must abide by majority rules.

But if France fails to hold the line, the fall-out will be incalculable for us and for all of Europe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; france; insurgency; islamism; muslims; paris; parisriots; riots; uprising
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To: mojito; HangnJudge
Why France is Burning

Because everybody knows it's easy.


French combat boot


81 posted on 11/07/2005 3:28:45 PM PST by Lady Jag (Semper Paratus! (always prepared))
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To: Nameless

Of course you are correct. I'm just sooo tired of pointing out that fact to revisionist Francophiles. Also, I've always wondered what vast acumen of military knowlege a 19 yr. old French aristocrat was able to impart to the Continental Army.


82 posted on 11/07/2005 3:44:05 PM PST by Roccus
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To: bkepley
Socialism has nothing to offer immigrants but handouts. More to the point, socialism has nothing to offer .... but handouts. Period!
83 posted on 11/07/2005 3:52:18 PM PST by Nanny7
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To: feralcat
The P.C. broadcast media are doing their best not to report that the rioting is being done by Arabs and Muslims. But if these are just "poor" people then the liberals have no explanation at to why they would riot when they are getting so many government goodies. ... Good logic. And the sheeple in this country continue to plunge off the cliff.
84 posted on 11/07/2005 4:02:58 PM PST by Nanny7
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To: mojito

....and what of the U.S. town whose leadership, in the name of tolerance, forces its Christian citizens to listen to the Muslim "call to worship" broadcast loudly on loudspeakers five times a day? - - It is time to test the tolerance waters by broadcasting "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" loudly from the loudspeakers at the First Baptist Church right downtown five times a day.


85 posted on 11/07/2005 6:20:27 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: All

86 posted on 11/07/2005 6:21:36 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Cat loving Texan; Extremely Extreme Extremist; tdewey10

I find the philosophy and aims of islamists to be reprehensible, but at least they're willing to fight and die for their beliefs. The French won't even defend their own country. We've bailed their unworthy butts out of trouble too many times in the past only to have them sneer at us afterward. This time let them perish.


87 posted on 11/07/2005 6:48:35 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: small voice in the wilderness

LOL. Freepers say the funniest things!


88 posted on 11/07/2005 6:59:11 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Nanny7

I like to think that Buffalo is a socialist utopia.


89 posted on 11/07/2005 7:04:06 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: mojito
reassert British identity and British values

Therein lies the problem: one cannot reassert what one has forgotten.

Can our own, young Americans that hardly know their own history, geography and economics --- can they fight for American values? What are American values to them? They may not believe all they hear from the Leftists, but they don't know what to believe either.

90 posted on 11/07/2005 7:58:47 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And we have paid them back at least TWICE OVER!


91 posted on 11/07/2005 8:55:10 PM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: monkapotamus

Wow. That about covers it, doesn't it?

That map looks like an organized plan has been followed. That is NOT spontaneous. It looks like France's sleeper cells were activated; the 'GO' signal being the death of an immigrant...

I wonder what the 'GO' signal is for us?

Reagan80


92 posted on 11/07/2005 9:38:00 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Well, some see Joan of Arc as part of the problem. Some say that England really did have a right to the throne of France.

Well . . . depends on what side of the Channel you were sitting on. Edward III (of England) was indeed the grandson of Philip IV of France (Ed was Phil's daughter's son), but Edward would never have been considered King-of-France material if the Capetians had been able to produce a male heir. Considering the ongoing state of tension between England and France at the time, it was unlikely that the French were going to accept an Englishman as king of France. I don't know how seriously Edward took his theoretical claim to the throne of France, but it was a good enough excuse to get a war started.

And I'm sorry, but Joan is just way cool.

93 posted on 11/08/2005 9:15:59 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: Dunstan McShane
if the Capetians had been able to produce a male heir.

That's right....if. But the Capetians didn't have a male heir and the law on both sides of the Channel as you put it was that Edward had the right to be king. Of course then it was inevitable that he would claim his rightful throne; even the previous King of France had named him as his heir.

The French flouted the law which is why I say their current love of lawlessness and just doing what feels good might be traced back to this time.

Joan of Arc? Think she's a bit flaky myself. But a lot of people thought she was "way cool" back then too which politically is why the French used her rather than abide by law.

Since that time, the English have been known to be more enamored by the rule of law than the French. The frenchies still have trouble enforcing the law today as we all know.

94 posted on 11/08/2005 12:16:34 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: mojito
"We must end the ruinous doctrine of multiculturalism "

Multiculturalism is fast approaching teason.

95 posted on 11/08/2005 12:28:17 PM PST by jpsb
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To: VoodooEconomics
"If they were to surrender "

The Brits and the US will not tolerate a surrender.

96 posted on 11/08/2005 12:30:50 PM PST by jpsb
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To: mojito

Suha Arafat lives in Paris, yet she isn't demanding that the riots stop.

Hmmm...

97 posted on 11/08/2005 12:30:51 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: mojito

Dien Bien Phu Deux


98 posted on 11/08/2005 12:34:33 PM PST by kevao
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To: dblshot

Sadly that is my take too, France is toast, the Franks are history. I will be curious to see that the Brits, USA and Russians do. An Islamic state is the middle of Europe will certainly set off all the alarm bells.


99 posted on 11/08/2005 12:35:43 PM PST by jpsb
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To: sean327

Yo are correct France never recovered from WW1, the French generals of WW1 were complete fools.


100 posted on 11/08/2005 12:41:00 PM PST by jpsb
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