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Why France is Burning
The Daily Mail and melaniephillips.com ^ | 11/07/05 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 11/07/2005 10:49:11 AM PST by mojito

Night after night, France has been under attack by its Arab Muslim minority with the French authorities having totally lost control of the streets.

What started as an ugly localised disturbance in Clichy-sous-Bois — a grotty Paris suburb — after two Muslim youths were accidentally electrocuted has spiralled into an unprecedented national crisis. Extreme violent disorder has spread to cities such as Toulouse, Lille, Nantes, the cathedral town of Evreux in Normandy and even to the centre of Paris.

Thousands of cars have been set on fire and hundreds of people arrested across France. The rioters have torched post offices and fire stations, schools and synagogues, buses and warehouses, fired upon police, and doused a handicapped woman with petrol and set her alight.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the tough-minded Interior Minister, has been blamed for inflaming the situation by his uncompromising language. French policy in general has been blamed for herding poor Arabs into suburban ghettoes where they have been left to fester in high unemployment and poverty.

The disturbances are thus being portrayed as race riots caused by official discrimination and insensitivity. But this is a gross misreading of the situation. It is far more profound and intractable. What we are seeing is, in effect, a French intifada: an uprising by French Muslims against the state.

When the police tried to take back the streets, they were driven out with the demand that they leave what the protesters called the ‘occupied territories’. And far from the claim that the disturbances have been caused by French policy of segregating Muslims into ghettoes, this is a war being waged for separate development.

Some Muslims have even called for the introduction of the ancient Ottoman ‘millet’ system of autonomous development for different communities.

The director of the Great Mosque of Paris, Dalil Boubakeur, has previously suggested that France should be regarded as a ‘house of covenant’, by which he appears to mean that France should enter into an agreement with its Muslims to grant them autonomy within the state.

His response to the current violence is not to take steps to bring his own community under control but to suggest instead that the French government shows ‘respect’ and sends ‘a message of peace’.

But M. Sarkozy and the police are determined to take back the streets. The Muslims are equally determined to keep territory they feel they have conquered from the French state with which they feel no identification.

This crisis, however, did not start with the electrocution tragedy in Clichy-sous-Bois. It has been going on for decades. The scale of it is astonishing. Nine thousand police cars have been torched or stoned since the beginning of this year. The problem has not been M. Sarkozy’s tough approach. On the contrary — until now this permanent grumbling insurrection has simply been ignored.

For more than twenty years France’s Muslim areas have been out of control. Indeed, they only turned into Muslim ghettoes in the first place because Muslim violence and harassment forced everyone else out. And they became no-go areas for the police, seen by the Muslims as occupation forces entering their territory.

In schools in such areas, teachers trying to teach French or European history have been threatened with their lives by both pupils and their parents. In some cases young French people have converted to Islam just to escape the harassment.

Blaming an official policy of segregation is wide of the mark. The fact is that French Muslims want to be segregated. The ghettoes are a way of ensuring a separate Islamic existence without having to assimilate into French society.

The fact is that whatever policies different European countries have pursued to deal with minorities, they have not cracked this problem. France has enforced a rigid policy of state secularism and assumed that all minorities would adopt French values simply by being French.

By contrast, the British and other Europeans have adopted multiculturalism, which means giving minorities equal status to the majority, and have bent over backwards to be accommodating to them and not give offence.

Yet while France was burning, there were riots over several days in Denmark over the publication of cartoons satirising the prophet Mohammed. In the super-tolerant Netherlands, the film-maker Theo van Gogh was murdered exactly a year ago because he had made an ‘insulting’ film about Islam. The Dutch immigration minister has had to wear a bullet-proof vest after shots were fired into her office, and death threats have been made against other ministers who have spoken against Islamist violence.

In Britain, British Muslims turned themselves into human bombs last July to murder as many of their fellow citizens as they could. We are told this was because of the war in Iraq. But France was a principal opponent of that war, and yet it is now being torched from Normandy to the Mediterranean.

For every country, a different reason can be found to blame it for the attacks being mounted upon it. Yet the common factor is the hostility of Muslims to the countries in which they have settled.

Clearly, not all fall into this category. Thousands of British Muslims are highly integrated and live law-abiding and productive lives. But it is equally clear that across Europe, those moderates are either unable or unwilling to stop those who want to impose their values on the majority.

And European governments have played into their hands. As the writer Bat Ye’Or reveals in her book Eurabia, the European Union and the Arab League entered into a series of official agreements some thirty years ago guaranteeing that Muslim immigrants in Europe would not be compelled to adapt in any way ‘to the customs of the host countries.’

This is all bound up with the erosion of national identities across Europe. This has affected even France, once a ferocious proponent of French culture which was imposed through a centralised schools system, a strong police force and national military service.

But now the schools system and the police have been weakened and national service has gone. Banning the hijab (Islamic headscarf) in schools represented a flickering of the old national certainty as France sniffed the danger that had arisen in its midst. But it was too little, and maybe too late.

Even now Britain, France and the rest of Europe are still in varying stages of denial over Muslim unrest. Reluctant even to admit that religion is central to this phenomenon, they look instead for ways to blame themselves and use the insult of ‘Islamophobia’ to shut down debate.

The warning for us from the disturbing events in France could not be clearer. We must end the ruinous doctrine of multiculturalism and reassert British identity and British values — and insist that although Muslims are a valued minority, they must abide by majority rules.

But if France fails to hold the line, the fall-out will be incalculable for us and for all of Europe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; france; insurgency; islamism; muslims; paris; parisriots; riots; uprising
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France descends into dhimmitude as the world watches.
1 posted on 11/07/2005 10:49:12 AM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Islam has no respect for any belief but it's own
Islam has no respect for any writings but those derived from Mohammad
Islam will kill those who renounce Mohammad
Their world view is frozen into the 7th century

Identify those who propagate hate speech in Islam
Arrest, Deport, or Imprison
Do not reinforce violent behavior, ever

Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
Winston Churchill


2 posted on 11/07/2005 10:52:03 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: mojito

But if France fails to hold the line, the fall-out will be incalculable for us and for all of Europe.

Absolutely right, unfortunately France's record on holding the line is highly suspect.


3 posted on 11/07/2005 10:53:42 AM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: mojito
Why France is Burning

Because it's made of...Wood?

4 posted on 11/07/2005 10:53:46 AM PST by MrEdd
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To: mojito

I'm surprised France hasn't surrendered yet. Then again maybe they have.


5 posted on 11/07/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by BMC1
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To: mojito

france is burning because their country has been run into the ground by their elitist, effete snob, socialst surrender monkey government.

Just as where we're heading if the RATs can manage to regain control of the reigns of power in this country.


6 posted on 11/07/2005 10:54:23 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: mojito
France descends into dhimmitude as the world watches.

Somehow that doesn't bother me. I've got more respect for the islamofascists than I do for the French.

7 posted on 11/07/2005 10:55:15 AM PST by elmer fudd
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I've got more respect for the islamofascists than I do for the French.

Sorry but as bad as France is, peaceful surendering socialists are a little better than head cutting, children killing Islamofasciests. But if it has to happen anywhere in Europe to wake up the rest of the world, France is the best choice.


8 posted on 11/07/2005 10:57:45 AM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: BMC1

If they were to surrender - then who needs to wait for Iran to aquire nukes?


9 posted on 11/07/2005 10:58:57 AM PST by VoodooEconomics
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To: HangnJudge

"Arrest, Deport, or Imprison "

You forgot an important response to this kind of anarchy:

Arrest, Deport, Imprison, OR SHOOT ON THE SPOT!


10 posted on 11/07/2005 11:00:30 AM PST by Laserman
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To: mojito

Let them eat yellowcake


11 posted on 11/07/2005 11:01:02 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: mojito

There was great hand wringing on French TV about how the situation would supposedly "spiral out of control" if French police shot and killed one of these rioting youth.

They seem to not even begin to grasp that events would spiral back INTO control if they shot about 100 of them.

Or simply follow the old British system of shoooting the ringleaders. And how do you identify the ringleaders? It's very simple. Every 5th man!


12 posted on 11/07/2005 11:01:20 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: mojito
France descends into dhimmitude as the world watches.

Amazing--what the great Charles Martel prevented in the eighth century, 21st-century France has essentially surrendered to.

13 posted on 11/07/2005 11:02:00 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: elmer fudd
Somehow that doesn't bother me. I've got more respect for the islamofascists than I do for the French.

Please remember that these people saved our asses in the Revolutionary War.

14 posted on 11/07/2005 11:02:31 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Laserman; HangnJudge

Their responce should be three words, Ready, Aim, FIre.


15 posted on 11/07/2005 11:02:56 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: mojito; All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


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16 posted on 11/07/2005 11:03:10 AM PST by backhoe (Anyone recall "A Clockwork Orange?")
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To: elmer fudd

Belch. Sorry but I'll take the French (who have at least contributed a nice onion soup and crunchy potatoes to civilization) over the islamofascists. The French you can ignore, the islamofascists you have to shoot.


17 posted on 11/07/2005 11:03:52 AM PST by tdewey10 (It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
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To: Howie66

Unlike France however, we have the 2nd Amendment and patriots who shoot back.


18 posted on 11/07/2005 11:04:06 AM PST by kromike
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To: mojito
Night after night, France has been under attack by its Arab Muslim minority

What say you? Arab Muslims, I hadn't heard that? Surely you meant the oppressed economic underclass.

19 posted on 11/07/2005 11:06:05 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: mojito

When the police tried to take back the streets, they were driven out with the demand that they leave what the protesters called the ‘occupied territories’. And far from the claim that the disturbances have been caused by French policy of segregating Muslims into ghettoes, this is a war being waged for separate development.
The most important line in the whole story:
The muslims were mad that the police entered their area. It had nothing to do with the deaths at the transfer station.


20 posted on 11/07/2005 11:06:12 AM PST by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006 - George Allen, POTUS 2008)
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