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Mark Steyn: Bicultural Europe is doomed
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/15/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/14/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by Pokey78

Three years ago -December 2002 - I was asked to take part in a symposium on Europe and began with the observation: "I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark."

At the time, this was taken as confirmation of my descent into insanity. I can't see why. Compare, for example, the Iraqi and the European constitutions: which would you say reflected a shrewder grasp of the realities on the ground?

Or take last week's attacks in Jordan by a quartet of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's finest suicide bombers. The day after the carnage, Jordanians took to the streets in their thousands to shout "Death to Zarqawi!" and "Burn in hell, Zarqawi!" King Abdullah denounced terrorism as "sick" and called for a "global fight" against it. "These people are insane," he said of the husband-and-wife couple dispatched to blow up a wedding reception.

For purposes of comparison, consider the Madrid bombing from March last year. The day after that, Spaniards also took to the streets, for their feebly tasteful vigil. Instead of righteous anger, they were "united in sorrow" - i.e. enervated in passivity. Instead of wishing death on the perpetrators, the preferred slogan was "Basta!" - "Enough!" - which was directed less at the killers than at Aznar and Bush. Instead of a leader who calls for a "global fight", they elected a government pledged to withdraw from any meaningful role in the global fight.

My point in that symposium was a simple one: whatever their problems, most Islamic countries have the advantage of beginning any evolution into free states from the starting point of relative societal cohesion. By contrast, most European nations face the trickier task of trying to hold on to their freedom at a time of increasing societal incoherence.

True, America and Australia grew the institutions of their democracy with relatively homogeneous populations, and then evolved into successful "multicultural" societies. But that's not what's happening in Europe right now. If you want to know what a multicultural society looks like, read the names of America's dead on September 11: Arestegui, Bolourchi, Carstanjen, Droz, Elseth, Foti, Gronlund, Hannafin, Iskyan, Kuge, Laychak, Mojica, Nguyen, Ong, Pappalardo, Quigley, Retic, Shuyin, Tarrou, Vamsikrishna, Warchola, Yuguang, Zarba. Black, white, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, Chinese - in a word, American.

Whether or not one believes in "celebrating diversity", that's a lot of diversity to celebrate. But the Continent isn't multicultural so much as bicultural. There are ageing native populations, and young Muslim populations, and that's it: "two solitudes", as they say in my beloved Quebec. If there's three, four or more cultures, you can all hold hands and sing We are the World. But if there's just two - you and the other - that's generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it's no longer quite clear who is the majority and who is the minority - a situation that much of Europe is fast approaching, as you can see by visiting any French, Austrian, Belgian or Dutch maternity ward.

Take Fiji - not a comparison France would be flattered by, though until 1987 the Fijians enjoyed a century of peaceful stable constitutional evolution the French were never able to muster. At any rate, Fiji comprises native Fijians and ethnic Indians brought in as indentured workers by the British. If memory serves, 46.2 per cent are Fijians and 48.6 per cent are Indo-Fijians; 50-50, give or take, with no intermarrying. In 1987, the first Indian-majority government came to power. A month later, Col Sitiveni Rabuka staged the first of his two coups, resulting in the Queen's removal as head of state and Fiji being expelled from the Commonwealth.

Is it that difficult to sketch a similar situation for France? Even in relatively peaceful bicultural societies, politics becomes tribal: loyalists vs nationalists in Northern Ireland, separatists vs federalists in Quebec. Picture a French election circa 2020, 2025: the Islamic Republican Coalition wins the most seats in the National Assembly. The Chiraquiste crowd give a fatalistic shrug and Mr de Villepin starts including crowd-pleasing suras from the Koran at his poetry recitals. But would Mr Le Pen or (by then) his daughter take it so well? Or would the temptation to be France's Col Rabuka prove too much?

And the Fijian scenario - a succession of bloodless coups - is the optimistic one. After all, the differences between Fijian natives and Indians are as nothing compared with those between the French and les beurs. I love the way those naysayers predicting doom and gloom in Baghdad scoff that Iraq's a totally artificial entity and that, without some Saddamite strongman, Kurds, Sunnis and Shias can't co-exist in the same state. Oh, really? If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims? If Kurdistan doesn't belong in Iraq, does Pornostan belong in the Islamic Republic of Holland?

In a democratic age, you can't buck demography - except through civil war. The Yugoslavs figured that out. In the 30 years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 per cent to 31 per cent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 per cent to 44 per cent.

So Europe's present biculturalism makes disaster a certainty. One way to avoid it would be to go genuinely multicultural, to broaden the Continent's sources of immigration beyond the Muslim world. But a talented ambitious Chinese or Indian or Chilean has zero reason to emigrate to France, unless he is consumed by a perverse fantasy of living in a segregated society that artificially constrains his economic opportunities yet imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.

France faces tough choices and, unlike Baghdad, in Paris you can't even talk about them honestly. As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

Oh, well. You can understand why the Quai d'Orsay is relaxed about Iran becoming the second Muslim nuclear power. As things stand, France is on course to be the third. You heard it here first. You probably won't hear it on Mr Dassier's station at all.


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To: Pokey78
Please add me to the Steyn Pinglist...please!

If you want to know what a multicultural society looks like, read the names of America's dead on September 11: Arestegui, Bolourchi, Carstanjen, Droz, Elseth, Foti, Gronlund, Hannafin, Iskyan, Kuge, Laychak, Mojica, Nguyen, Ong, Pappalardo, Quigley, Retic, Shuyin, Tarrou, Vamsikrishna, Warchola, Yuguang, Zarba. Black, white, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, Chinese - in a word, American.

41 posted on 11/14/2005 2:59:18 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: The Drowning Witch

Ping!


42 posted on 11/14/2005 3:00:21 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Pokey78

Another good one from Steyn.


43 posted on 11/14/2005 3:00:55 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: MattinNJ; Pokey78
I wish I had 1% of this man's wit.

You and me both. I wouldn't mind 1% of his brains, either. :)

And thank you for the ping, Pokey.

44 posted on 11/14/2005 3:01:27 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: RinaseaofDs

Typical French attitude towards everyone except terrorists:

"I fart in your general direction!"

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!"


45 posted on 11/14/2005 3:02:39 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Pokey78

Interesting....by the same logic Latin American immigration may be defusing our historic black-white issues.


46 posted on 11/14/2005 3:03:20 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Clemenza

Okay, that's scary.


47 posted on 11/14/2005 3:03:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Pokey78

If France collapses, it is likely the mess will wash onto Britain's shores. I love my country, but I need a future too. If that is what occurs, I have no choice but to leave.

Regards, Ivan


48 posted on 11/14/2005 3:04:24 PM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Pokey78
God, that's great:

I love the way those naysayers predicting doom and gloom in Baghdad scoff that Iraq's a totally artificial entity and that, without some Saddamite strongman, Kurds, Sunnis and Shias can't co-exist in the same state. Oh, really? If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims?

49 posted on 11/14/2005 3:07:59 PM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: RinaseaofDs
Tom McClintock wrote a piece that was posted here about the California Special Election that nailed it on the head.

Do you happen to have a link?

50 posted on 11/14/2005 3:16:58 PM PST by Warhammer (What, me worry?)
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To: Paladin2

After this morning when I heard them say that 362 cars burned last night but that's actually good news because that's the number that burn on an average night, I knew something was very, very wrong. Well, I knew it before, but that was still a surprise.

Do they really think that war and rumours of war don't spread if the news stations don't tell people? What do they think people did BEFORE news stations or when the news stations get blacked out by the invaders. What simpering fools. The only difference is that the news people get is misty, distorted, often incorrect. Maybe it's not so different. Actually the rumors are probably to the other extreme, making it sound WORSE than it really is.


51 posted on 11/14/2005 3:17:22 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (I'm proud to be an EX-episcopalian.)
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To: Pokey78
As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

Hey! That's not fair! The French press gets to admit their left wing bias.

52 posted on 11/14/2005 3:17:52 PM PST by OSHA (Liberalism - Is it real or is it Scrappleface?)
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To: wizardoz
If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims? If Kurdistan doesn't belong in Iraq, does Pornostan belong in the Islamic Republic of Holland?

I agree with your sentiments, God, he's good. He is the edgiest writer going now, and my favorite I think.

Coulter is about the same every week. The rest ignore the elephant in the living room, as do the politicians and the so-called conservative media.

I'm reduced to listening to Savage on the radio because the others are sheep and Savage tells it like it is even if he is an id10t a lot of the time. We have a couple of decent local guys, Dan Patrick, and Edd Hendee who don't waste time and talk about real issues, but they're mostly state (Texas) and local (Houston).

53 posted on 11/14/2005 3:21:57 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (I'm proud to be an EX-episcopalian.)
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To: chatham
France deserves to be Doomed.

France going down may save our butts, i.e., wake us up. I can't say I want them to FALL, what with the nukes and all, but I'm not exactly dismayed by their problems right now. Besides, que sera, sera.

54 posted on 11/14/2005 3:23:39 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (I'm proud to be an EX-episcopalian.)
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To: Warhammer

Unfortunately no. A search on his name should do it though . . .


55 posted on 11/14/2005 3:25:40 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: OSHA
Hey! That's not fair! The French press gets to admit their left wing bias.

Which is why the American MSM thinks they are kewl.

56 posted on 11/14/2005 3:27:52 PM PST by FarmerW
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To: Pokey78

later read.


57 posted on 11/14/2005 3:30:52 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Monti Cello
"Interesting....by the same logic Latin American immigration may be defusing our historic black-white issues."

It is in some respects, and will continue as the Hispanic population increases. One example, Black Americans poll out about the same as white americans on the issue of illegal immigration.

58 posted on 11/14/2005 3:52:18 PM PST by tjg (My spelling is horrible, but I'm too lazy to fix it.)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks, Pokey. Always a pleasure to read. :)


59 posted on 11/14/2005 3:55:08 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Clemenza

Mark Steyn for King of America!


60 posted on 11/14/2005 3:57:10 PM PST by Petrosius
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