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House Debate on Murtha Proposal (OH Rep Jean Schmidt "cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
AP ^ | 11/18/2005 6:12:20 PM | AP

Posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by Former Military Chick

CAPITOL HILL (AP) -- There's been heated debate on the House floor regarding a GOP effort to force a vote on Congressman John Murtha's call for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

Democrats charge the effort is a cheap political stunt and a personal attack.

Instead of offering Murtha's resolution, Republicans plan to reject a similarly worded resolution offered by one of their own to show support for US troops.

Democrats say that's a "counterfeit" resolution, charging it guts Murtha's thoughtful approach to the situation.

The fiery, emotional debate climaxed when Ohio Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, who is the lowest in seniority, recounted a message a Marine colonel wanted to send to Murtha.

She said he told her that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

Democrats booed and shouted her down, bringing the House to a standstill.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2french; jeanschmidt; murtha; surrender; whiteflag
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the ping!


161 posted on 11/18/2005 8:21:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: LegendHasIt

Makes you wonder what all the hoopla was about .. they got what they want, now on record and nobody supported Murtha's thoughts on the subject.


162 posted on 11/18/2005 8:21:28 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Final vote (resolution to withdraw immediately):

YEA:3
NAY:398
Voting "present" but not taking a stand:5
Not Voted:28

I'm wondering who the one RINO surrender monkey who voted for immediate withdrawal was? Is this going to be a vote for the record with all the names and how they voted? Or do they all get to hide their votes in anonymity?


163 posted on 11/18/2005 8:23:15 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: acapesket

He was clear and articulate. Really made the case for our guys.


164 posted on 11/18/2005 8:24:03 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Former Military Chick

We can't get CSPAN in Canada and I tried their website but all they had was a program about books. Listening to CNN is a waste of time and we can't get Fox over the air.


165 posted on 11/18/2005 8:24:33 PM PST by KateatRFM
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To: LegendHasIt

OOPS, several slipped in after time was up.

Wait a bit and I'll post the final -final vote... They are still voting even though the clock ran out 5 minutes ago


166 posted on 11/18/2005 8:25:25 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Blurblogger
Orange? Argh! That's definitely meant to resemble a very bitter lemon, your mileage may vary. ;^)

Snicker ; )

167 posted on 11/18/2005 8:26:25 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: No Longer Free State
I'm more afraid of going into Dim-controlled Kansas City than I am of going back to Iraq

We've got a lot of work to do on the homefront that's for sure. And it's young people like you who will be leading the way.
168 posted on 11/18/2005 8:26:42 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

OK, Looks like: the one Yea republican vote changed his mind, or something Now it is three Dem Yeas and no Rep. yeas.


169 posted on 11/18/2005 8:27:38 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: KateatRFM

We got DSL recently and since we don't have cable it has been quite an experience to view cspan.


170 posted on 11/18/2005 8:28:58 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

It's that dude from NC.

Good luck surviving the primary next time man.


171 posted on 11/18/2005 8:29:38 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: LegendHasIt

I wonder who the flipflopping Rep. was. Or maybe he just leaned on the wrong button.


172 posted on 11/18/2005 8:30:15 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

I wonder who the 3 Dems are.

OK, hypocrites. At least 187 Demo reps. say we should not withdraw from Iraq now. So their votes do not match their treasonous rhetoric. What a load of morons.


173 posted on 11/18/2005 8:31:57 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: All

Final vote in the resolution to withdraw immediately from Iraq looks like:

YEA: 3
NAY: 403
Present (but not willing to take a stand): 6
Not voting: 22

He didn't slam the gavel, but I guess it is done.

Thanks, House Republicans, you have done something very significant today.


174 posted on 11/18/2005 8:34:38 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Former Military Chick

Listenin' on Savage! Thanks.


175 posted on 11/18/2005 8:35:22 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Thanks for posting the final vote! I blinked and missed it.

Headlines (if any!) should be interesting.


176 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:05 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

The Nea was John Linder.He is either chairman or #2 on rules committee.Probably a parlimentary manuver knowing he would change at end.


177 posted on 11/18/2005 8:44:55 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Flora McDonald

Those voting FOR the resolution:
McKinney, Serrano, Wexler (all dims)

Those answering present:
Capuano, Clay, Hinchey, McDermott, Nadler, Owens (all dims)


178 posted on 11/18/2005 8:46:53 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: TNCMAXQ

The 3 Yes votes:
McKinney, Serrano, Wexler (all dims)


179 posted on 11/18/2005 8:49:18 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Cool, thanks for that...

Now McDermott, who refused to take a stand, is now bloviating about how it is all so unfair....

But then McDermott has ALWAYS been a weasel, so no surprise at that. Just about no one is left in the room, but he loves to tell lies, even to himself.


180 posted on 11/18/2005 8:51:54 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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