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Russia to sell 29 air defense systems to Iran
Pravda ^

Posted on 12/03/2005 4:51:33 PM PST by markedmannerf

Russia intends to sell 29 Tor M-1 anti-missile systems capable of downing cruise missiles and air bombs to Iran, the Vedomosti newspaper wrote with reference to an anonymous manager of a defense enterprise. According to the newspaper, the contract on the matter has already been signed. Tor M-1 air defense system

Tor is a solely defensive weapon, which intercepts cruise missiles. Journalists contacted the management of the Kupol (Dome) enterprise, which manufactures Tor anti-missile systems, although they failed to obtain a confirmation of the above-mentioned transaction.

A source from the air defense industry said that it goes about the sale of 29 Tor M-1 anti-missile complexes on the base of the Greek order. Greece purchased 21 systems and was intended to acquire 29 more. The country turned the order down at the end of the nineties. Experts evaluate the Iranian contact in the sum of $700 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; iran; kgb; missiledefense; putin; russia; sovietunion; theyneverworkanyway; ussr
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The more I see things like this the more I wonder how long were going to allow the clock to tick.
1 posted on 12/03/2005 4:51:33 PM PST by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf

You and me both. Trouble is, I don't think we can stop the clock.


2 posted on 12/03/2005 5:01:39 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: markedmannerf

Why is Putin playing with fire like this? There are plenty of other countries Russia could sell weapons to. It can't just be the money.

This is big-time troublemaking. Give nuclear arms to a homicidal maniac and missiles to protect himself against attack.

Russia is well within range of nuclear missiles, both from Iran and Israel. Are they nuts?


3 posted on 12/03/2005 5:03:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: markedmannerf
If there is a beginning of the next world war...
4 posted on 12/03/2005 5:08:33 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: markedmannerf

When Israel strikes, I hope the wind is strong out of the southeast.


5 posted on 12/03/2005 5:11:16 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (m)
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To: markedmannerf

Oh good! They are putting up some targets!


6 posted on 12/03/2005 5:11:30 PM PST by westmichman (I vote Republican for the children and the poor!)
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To: markedmannerf

What on earth is Russia up to?????


7 posted on 12/03/2005 5:11:47 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Cicero
Are they nuts?

Putin is the Bill Clinton of Russia.

He's just a boob with a title and oozes incompetence!!

8 posted on 12/03/2005 5:12:59 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (m)
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To: markedmannerf

The ugly, alcoholic stepsister of Eurasia again proves her worth.


9 posted on 12/03/2005 5:21:07 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: markedmannerf
I think the Russians are just trying to unload overpriced junk nobody else will buy.


10 posted on 12/03/2005 5:21:36 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Yup, besides they're worthless against B-2s.
11 posted on 12/03/2005 5:27:37 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: markedmannerf

Translation
TOR M1 missle system = bomb magnet.

I know of least 3 systems that would put this out of action so fast, the ops would be, well, BBQ'd.

Who knows what is current in our ECM inventory, or what the IAF folks have at hand?


12 posted on 12/03/2005 5:29:21 PM PST by ASOC (The result of choosing between the lesser of two evils, in the end, leaves you with, well, evil.)
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He's just a boob with a title and oozes incompetence!!

But didn't GW look into Puttie's eye and see that he was an honest, sincere peace loving man?

13 posted on 12/03/2005 5:30:34 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: markedmannerf
The more I see things like this the more I wonder how long were going to allow the clock to tick.

Israel knows how to handle such matters.The words "never again" will ring more and more loudly in the ears of the population (and teir leaders) as those 9th Century knuckledraggers move toward their own national Armageddon.

14 posted on 12/03/2005 5:34:39 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: markedmannerf
The same Ruskie made systems Saddam had no doubt....
15 posted on 12/03/2005 5:34:43 PM PST by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: CommandoFrank
But didn't GW look into Puttie's eye and see that he was an honest, sincere peace loving man?

And as the ultimate con man of all time....Bill Clinton charmed a nation.

Putie has some of that charm....for a Ruskie.

Bush has that age-old alcoholic's urge to please everyone all the time.

That's why he hasn't vetoed a single spending bill.....and why he seems so star-struck with Democrats.

I'm afraid Bush will never see the Democrats as he sees Al Quaeda.

We know that Democrats are more dangerous.

16 posted on 12/03/2005 5:39:46 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (m)
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[ Tor is a solely defensive weapon, which intercepts cruise missiles. Journalists contacted the management of the Kupol (Dome) enterprise, which manufactures Tor anti-missile systems, although they failed to obtain a confirmation of the above-mentioned transaction. ]

Would be terrible in a wonderful kind of way if "somebody" invented a Cruise missile that carries a HARM missile for defense against being radiated.. wouldnt it.. and with no radiation both would go off on contact..

17 posted on 12/03/2005 5:56:07 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Absolutely correct, sir! One thing we've learned since Desert Storm is that the Russians/soviets/Evil Empire make crappy weapons.

Remember the "$10 billion in arms saddam bought from the Russians"? I don't think saddam got his money's worth. Of course, he isn't really in any condition to complain now, is he?

Also, please remember one steel fact: It's not just the weapons. Even more critical to winning a firefight, battle, or war is the quality of personnel and their training. (Train, train, train!) I'm betting that the iranians are even worse fighters than the Iraqis, because of the low quality of their personnel and the chinese firedrills that pass for military training. Think along the lines of a monkey in the missile compartment of a Ohio-class boomer. "Insha allah, how do I make it go bang?"


18 posted on 12/03/2005 5:58:15 PM PST by MyDogAllah
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I'm betting that the iranians are even worse fighters than the Iraqis, because of the low quality of their personnel and the chinese firedrills that pass for military training.

Exactly. Forced military service does not produce quality forces. It will be 5-10 years before these things are ever fielded anyway. Even if these things were 100% effective against cruise missiles, they would run out of rounds before the first wave of attacks were finished.

19 posted on 12/03/2005 6:06:23 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: CommandoFrank
"But didn't GW look into Puttie's eye and see that he was an honest, sincere peace loving man?"

W says that about everyone ... even Mooselimbs and Democrats.

20 posted on 12/03/2005 6:08:32 PM PST by manwiththehands (Democrats and the MSM: lies and hypocrisy on steroids)
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