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The truth about tipping
December 6, 2005 | George

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by George14

It has recently been publicized that a 20 percent tip is now appropriate because servers are usually only guaranteed $2.13 an hour and the tips have to be split. Let me explain something. It is the customer's sole right to determine whether a tip is given, the amount and who will be the recipient of his tip. Such rights are not only guaranteed by our constitution they are clearly explained in the Code of Federal Regulations. Customers may tip any amount they choose. Instead of a higher tip being appropriate, what is now actually appropriate is for the public to start questioning why they are being expected to tip more.

While it has been widely publicized that tip splitting and lowered wages are both creating a need for higher tip percentages, what is not being publicized is an explanation of what these business practices actually are and why they create a need for the public to tip more. You see in both cases, such practices equate to employers being allowed to take part the tips away from the employee to whom the customer has presented a tip. You see, tip splitting is the business practice whereby employers take part of the tipped employee's tips and give them to workers whom the customer had every right and ability to tip but didn't. The $2.13 an hour business practice which has been publicized is actually called a tip credit. The tip credit also allows businesses to take or credit part of their employee's tips for themselves. In both cases the public's tips are being taken by businesses owners. The problem is not that customers should be tipping more the problem is that business owners should not be utilizing their employee's tips for the business's interests.

The truth is, business owners are using the customer's tips which undeniably and indisputably are not intended for the business owner for the business's own interests. Such business practices are being allowed by our government even though such business practices are an illegal dominion over the customer's property. To put it simply, businesses are being allowed to steal the money customers present as tips. Now, the public is being expected to tip more because the workers are not receiving the financial benefits of the tips they have been presented.

What is needed is not a higher tip percentage but some educating of the public of what is actually happening to their tip. Businesses have lobbied our federal government and I believe have probably even paid off many of our judges so they can steal the financial benefits of the tips our public is tipping workers in the service industry. The stories you read on how the public is being expected to tip more are actually stories about how our country is allowing businesses owners an ability to blatantly steal from their workers. If the real issue was resolved there would be no issue.

Employers should be prohibited from using their employee's tips to establish a lower minimum wage for their tipped workers. Customers are not tipping so the business can lower it's payroll expenses and thus benefit itself to the customer's tip. Customers are not tipping so the business owner can decide who should share in their tip. Both these business practices are fraud on the public for they are clearly the misappropriations of the public's property. Because our public has sat back and done nothing as business owners misappropriate the public's tips to their own interests, there now exists an undue pressure on the public to tip more to make up for such criminal acts.

The reason I believe our public has sat back and done nothing as business owners reap the financial benefits of the tips presented to their workers is because the media has also been paid off to avoid informing the public of what is actually happening to their tip when the courts ignore the constitutional rights of the customer and when our federal government so blatantly misappropriates the public's tips. The courts have ruled that employers may share the customer's tip among employees whom the customer had every right to tip but didn't. The federal government has allowed businesses to benefit themselves to the customer's tip through the tip credit without the consent of the customer. Such acts by our federal government and courts are not only unconstitutional but criminal. The media is covering up such crimes by intentionally avoiding the issue and keeping the truth from the public.

The tipped employees of this nation need some help from the public on these issues. The truth of what is happening to the customer's tip is being withheld from the public so that employers can continue to steal our tips while the public is left to foot the bill.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: angrywaitersyndrome; bibletracts; conspiracy; crackpot; deeduhdee; looneytoon; mdm; mrpink; reservoirdogs; tipcredit; tipouts; tipping; tippooling; tips; tipsplitting
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To: mitchbert

I was in Nuremberg and they were very nice.


101 posted on 12/06/2005 1:25:13 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: George14
Six words:   The more we tip, the less they pay.
102 posted on 12/06/2005 1:25:49 PM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: George14

One of the most generous tippers (percentage-wise) I ever knew was a former waitress.


103 posted on 12/06/2005 1:26:06 PM PST by wideminded
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To: SoothingDave

Spot on, SoothingDave!


104 posted on 12/06/2005 1:26:22 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: saveliberty

Your welcome. 50% of the time was pretty enjoyable. 40% was sheer boredom. 10% was a bit of an adrenaline rush.


105 posted on 12/06/2005 1:26:37 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: George14

All your tips are belong to us.


106 posted on 12/06/2005 1:26:44 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: SoothingDave

No, the question is, why doesn't the restaurant business have to pay their employees? Every other industry it is part of the cost of business, no?


107 posted on 12/06/2005 1:26:46 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
"Love the site, I see Pierce Brosnan has made a couple of apperances. "

Look what happens when you search for Kerry.

108 posted on 12/06/2005 1:27:15 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: R. Scott

:-)


109 posted on 12/06/2005 1:27:43 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: Labyrinthos

LOL! That reminds me of the hysterical liberal magic 8 ball. You would ask it a question (out loud) and then click to shake the 8 ball. The best answer was "Question not compassionate. Hand over paycheck!"

LOL


110 posted on 12/06/2005 1:28:52 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: Liberate California
"In California, The waiters and waitresses still get minimum wage. Don't overtip them."

I can't help it, I get drunk and over tip.

111 posted on 12/06/2005 1:28:57 PM PST by Feiny (Every Time Someone Says HAPPY HOLIDAYS an Elf Dies.)
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To: R. Scott

:-)


112 posted on 12/06/2005 1:29:09 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: wideminded
One of the most generous tippers (percentage-wise) I ever knew was a former waitress.

That's generally the case. I waited tables years ago, and therefore I've always tipped generously, I know what they go through.

113 posted on 12/06/2005 1:29:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: George14

If a waitron gives me good service, I have no problem tipping 20%.

Less if so-so service.


114 posted on 12/06/2005 1:30:47 PM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: billorites
Look what happens when you search for Kerry.

LOL, how appropriate he dined at "The Waffle House."

115 posted on 12/06/2005 1:30:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: wideminded

It should be a requirement in life to work in the service industry at least once in one's life.


116 posted on 12/06/2005 1:30:55 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: SoothingDave; BlueStateDepression
If busboys, hostesses and waitresses, along with cooks, all together make your experience a good one, why does it bother you if they all share in your gratuity?

I think you *missed* the point about this 'tip share' SCAM.

'Tip Share' scam only benefits the employers, because they now only have to PAY these busboys, hostesses, etc the same 2 bucks per hr. as they pay the waitresses.....because they all now 'share tips'.

Cost to employer only 6 bucks p.h for these 3 employees......without 'tip share' the BB's & hostesses would be paid at least mim. wage p.h. & only the waitress 2 bucks p.h.

I figured this scam out when my daughter waited tables & was told she had to 'share' her tips with all employees & then found these same employees were paid the same 2 bucks p.h. as she was. (because they too now received *tips*).

117 posted on 12/06/2005 1:31:08 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: George14
Did you write this?

Have you ever owned a business with tipped employees?

118 posted on 12/06/2005 1:32:12 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! He also ordered a Philadelphia cheese steak with swiss cheese.


119 posted on 12/06/2005 1:32:21 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: dfwgator

A freind of mine worked as a pizza delivery guy to help pay his way through college. Because of all the crap he endured, I pay a good tip to delivery drivers.


120 posted on 12/06/2005 1:32:29 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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