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Mirecki mum on details of beating
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | December 7, 2005 | Eric Weslander

Posted on 12/07/2005 6:50:29 AM PST by johnnyb_61820

Key facts about the reported attack remained unclear Tuesday, including exactly where it happened. A report released by the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said the location was “unknown” and listed it as south of 31st Street on either East 1400 Road or East 1500 Road.

Louisiana Street turns into East 1400 Road outside the city limits. Haskell Avenue becomes East 1500 Road.

Also, there was conflicting information about whether Mirecki reported it at the scene or at the hospital. In an interview Monday with the Journal-World, he said he called police from the side of the road, but sheriff’s officials said they were dispatched to the hospital.

Mirecki declined to clarify the discrepancy when asked about it Tuesday outside the sheriff’s office.

“I can; I just don’t want to,” he said.

The sheriff’s report, which is classified as an aggravated battery, says that Mirecki suffered minor injuries. It says the incident started about 6:20 a.m. and was reported about 6:40 a.m.

KU faculty on Tuesday pondered the effects that recent weeks’ events would have on the religious studies department.

“I don’t think we know how it’s going to shake out yet,” professor Tim Miller said. “This is a difficult time to get through. I want to get through as well as we can.”

Religious studies professor Jonathan Boyarin said, “I hope that we will be able to move forward in our scholarship and teaching with mutual respect among the academic community and the people of Kansas and the larger community around us.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; ku; mirecki; paulmirecki
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We don't know where it happened, when the police were called, and, despite being beaten by two hillbillies with a metal object, he suffered only "minor injuries".

And now he won't talk to clarify anything.

1 posted on 12/07/2005 6:50:30 AM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: johnnyb_61820

I smell fraud.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 6:52:03 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Gee, ya think?


3 posted on 12/07/2005 6:53:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: johnnyb_61820
LOL! Another case of academic autoharassment, like that psycho psych prof in California.

What a transparent loser.

4 posted on 12/07/2005 6:53:30 AM PST by wideawake
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To: dfwgator
Gee, ya think?

:)

5 posted on 12/07/2005 6:54:37 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: johnnyb_61820

His story does not pass the sniff test.


6 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:14 AM PST by joebuck
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To: johnnyb_61820

Ha hah! LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIArrrrrr!

The filthy pervert leftie, made it up!
He was never attacked by any "fundies".
He probably got beat up by his drug dealer or bookie.


7 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:37 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: johnnyb_61820

He is a typical liberal liar.


8 posted on 12/07/2005 6:59:42 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I get the same smell here....he was probably beaten up by his homosexual lover or a druggie peddlar or something.


9 posted on 12/07/2005 6:59:54 AM PST by indcons (Don't question either my intelligence or my ability; I have none.)
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To: johnnyb_61820

Liar, liar, pants on fire.


10 posted on 12/07/2005 7:00:27 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: johnnyb_61820

He is no doubt trying to limit the chances of being caught in his lie. The less he says, the better for him.


11 posted on 12/07/2005 7:01:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: johnnyb_61820

Hey Proffessor, Filing a false police report is a serious crime.


12 posted on 12/07/2005 7:04:11 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Baby Driver
He probably got beat up by his drug dealer or bookie

Cruising.

13 posted on 12/07/2005 7:04:42 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: johnnyb_61820

It looks like South 31st Street is the edge of town and East 1400 and East 1500 Roads extend 5 and 6 miles into the farmland, respectively. So they have the location of the attack narrowed down to some point along 12 miles or so of country road. Which is to say, not at all.


14 posted on 12/07/2005 7:05:38 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
He is no doubt trying to limit the chances of being caught in his lie. The less he says, the better for him.

If this attack happened, Prof. Mirecki will lead the police to the exact spot, where they can examine physical evidence that may lead to the solution of the crime.

If this attack never happened, Prof. Mirecki will never lead them to an exact spot, because the police might be able to examine physical evidence and determine that no attack took place.

So, for my purposes, whether or not he leads the police to a specific location will be the best objective indicator of whether or not this attack took place. Until he does, this does not pass the sniff test.

15 posted on 12/07/2005 7:10:48 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: johnnyb_61820

I don't care. Christians are still all a bunch of hate-filled, blood-thirsty, ignorant buffoons who will do anything to turn science classes into astrology classes just to establish a theocracy and force their values down the throats of everyone else.


16 posted on 12/07/2005 7:21:42 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: gridlock
I grew up in that area. 31st street runs through the "sacred" Baker Wetlands, that marshy environmental jewel that has halted the construction of the Southwest Lawrence traffic way for the past 20+ years. There is a park and some light industry in the area and the road runs along some land owned by Haskell Indian Nations University. The area where the attack is alleged is actually highly traveled (although I don't know how heavy traffic would be at 6:20 am.) It is right on the edge of town.
17 posted on 12/07/2005 7:37:32 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: johnnyb_61820
I have enough experience with the press, that there is no way I'd talk to them in such circumstances either. He's talking to the police. That is all citizenship requires.

Also, if I were faking an incident, I'd have decided in advance where it happened. Whereas if I were accosted on a county road and were not paying attention, I might easily not know exactly where I was.

18 posted on 12/07/2005 7:39:27 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Sure. Are you the Profs gay lover?


19 posted on 12/07/2005 7:40:48 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Forte Runningrock

A belated /s to you!


20 posted on 12/07/2005 7:42:10 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor
standing there after your alleged beating by "boys with red blazers, jeans and running shoes, using a metal object", then calling the police, you wouldn't look around and take notice of you surroundings?
I find that HIGHLY unlikely. Unless it never happened of course. Now he can't explain the discrepancies in his statements? The guy obviously made it all up, took one of his fantasy's of being "worked over" by some collage boys in red blazers, and changed it to a beating by "Christian fundamentalists". Where are all these "Christian fundamentalist" gangs I keep hearing these wingnuts talking about? Where do they keep their lances, armor and horses?
21 posted on 12/07/2005 7:57:55 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Fester Chugabrew
A belated /s to you!

You had me going there for a second. Your rant was just over the top enough to be a DUmmy.

You could almost hear the kitty claws extending...

22 posted on 12/07/2005 8:07:47 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: johnnyb_61820

the whole incident sounded fishy from the start - I'm from that part of Kansas and the "assailants" and the "assault" sound exactly like the imagination of a left-wing partisan, and nothing like the jerks I grew up with in that area who might actually assault someone.


23 posted on 12/07/2005 8:10:43 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: johnnyb_61820

I call "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" on the professor!


24 posted on 12/07/2005 8:12:13 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I don't care. Christians are still all a bunch of hate-filled, blood-thirsty, ignorant buffoons who will do anything to turn science classes into astrology classes just to establish a theocracy and force their values down the throats of everyone else.

This from the "Tolerent" left. The left who embraces diversity, the left who uses the courts to advance their homoerotic lifestyle while the general public disagrees with it.

Are you this wonderful embracing of all cultures from the left? Oh, but if your white, Christian, make over 50K per year and are straight you're the DEVIL.

25 posted on 12/07/2005 8:16:33 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 2 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Forte Runningrock
standing there after your alleged beating by "boys with red blazers, jeans and running shoes, using a metal object", then calling the police, you wouldn't look around and take notice of you surroundings?

It's been a while since I had the crap beaten out of me, but no, I wouldn't. I'd expect I'd be dazed. He did exactly what I'd do; he called the cops, and drove to the hospital.

There are unlikely things about this story, but that isn't one of them.

26 posted on 12/07/2005 8:26:37 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: gridlock
Your rant was just over the top enough to be a DUmmy.

Actually it seems to be in accord with a handful of folks here who have used this incident to paint all Christians as complicit in violence against loony professors. The same people who attirubute the universe to mere matter in motion get their panties in a twist when a professor designs a class to ridicule people's beliefs meets with a bloody nose. "Cause and effect" is suddenly an alien notion, and they suddenly have a soapbox for preaching "morality" as if matter in motion demands some kind of accountability. Hey, it's nature's fault.

27 posted on 12/07/2005 8:30:07 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

28 posted on 12/07/2005 8:32:08 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: johnnyb_61820
Mirecki declined to clarify the discrepancy when asked about it Tuesday outside the sheriff’s office.

“I can; I just don’t want to,” he said.

This is smelling very suspicious now. I'm beginning to wonder if this turkey hasn't gone Tyler Durden on himself.

Time will tell.

29 posted on 12/07/2005 8:33:08 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: johnnyb_61820; All

Yesterday, I was willing to accept he was beaten. Sometimes it does happen. I wasn't going to join the conspiracy squad and just assume because the guy is liberal he is lying.

But, I am sorry, now the guy doesn't even know where it happened or when?

This smells really, really, fishy. There is nothing believable about his story.


30 posted on 12/07/2005 8:33:40 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Jim Noble

31 posted on 12/07/2005 8:34:11 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

All Christians are like that? Is that what you're saying, without a sarcasm tag?


32 posted on 12/07/2005 8:35:37 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: johnnyb_61820
Meanwhile, back in the woods:

Professor: "You boys out here for a reason?".

Boys: "Who are you?"

Professor:"I'm the local penis inspector from the college."

Boys: (WHACK! THUMP! BOPP! ZIFF! THUD!)

Professor: "Ouch!...I meant PENCIL inspector....ouch...stop!"

33 posted on 12/07/2005 8:36:13 AM PST by add925
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To: Right Wing Professor
I might easily not know exactly where I was.

You'll not that he doesn't claim he can't point out the spot, but rather that he won't.

See #29.

34 posted on 12/07/2005 8:39:39 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

A belated /s to you, too.


35 posted on 12/07/2005 8:43:24 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor

The prof didn't think his little false report through and now contradictions will begin to appear as he is questioned. That is always the case with liars who act on emotion.


36 posted on 12/07/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Whew! ;O)


37 posted on 12/07/2005 8:47:25 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: rwfromkansas

When is the last time a lefty prof was beaten over evolution? Or any time ever?


38 posted on 12/07/2005 8:49:11 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: gridlock
You could almost hear the kitty claws extending...

The sun was glistening on my claws, then I read his profile. There's nothing sadder than a viking kitty suffering from slashus interruptus.

39 posted on 12/07/2005 8:52:21 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("Life's a beta, then you die." - overheard in City of Villains)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

Heya Cav!

This smell like week old fish up there also?

Semper Fi


40 posted on 12/07/2005 8:55:14 AM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: Rebelbase
The prof didn't think his little false report through and now contradictions will begin to appear as he is questioned. That is always the case with liars who act on emotion.

Something happened to him. He has bruises; and hospital records will document his injuries. If it was faked, he would have had to have planned the attack with a confederate, which means he should have the details down. What is consistent with the facts is that it was an road rage incident, and that he embroidered it; or that it was a road rage incident, and during the attack one of the yobs recognized him and said something.

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it :-)

41 posted on 12/07/2005 8:56:26 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Two men in ancient times were walking along. One of them said, "Look at the beauty of the universe. Look at how everything seems to fit together. Surely God is great to have created all this!"

The other man said, "All this just happens to exist. If things fit together, it's just by happenstance. If there's order and apparent design, it's just coincidence. Can you prove or disprove that this God of yours exists?"

The first man said, "No, but can you prove or disprove that all this just happens to exist and that God had nothing to do with it?"

The second man said, "No, but my views are scientific so they're the only ones fit for public discourse."

And thus secularism masquerading as science was born!


42 posted on 12/07/2005 8:57:43 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Rebelbase

I don't know of any times. But, I just assumed sometimes a conservative will beat up a lefty, not often, but in a country as big as America, I am sure it happens.

Nevertheless, his story isn't believable.


43 posted on 12/07/2005 8:58:16 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Jim Noble
Cruising.

Yup, picked up a "bear" that was a little more ferocious than he wanted.
44 posted on 12/07/2005 8:59:09 AM PST by BJClinton (Happy Pearl Harbor Day!)
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To: Petronski
You'll not that he doesn't claim he can't point out the spot, but rather that he won't.

Not to the press. I wouldn't either.

What I find fascinating is that people who are distrustful of the mainstream media feel it's suspicious when someone won't pour out their heart to them. If he isn't cooperating with police, I'd find that suspicious. But staying mum to the press just tells me he's smarter than I first thought when I read his original email.

45 posted on 12/07/2005 9:00:57 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: puroresu
Actually, it sounds like 'two men, zero clues'.

Very little in science is coincidence.

46 posted on 12/07/2005 9:02:42 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Not to the press. I wouldn't either.

Agreed. But the police say they don't know either, yet he claims he CAN point it out. I have to assume he hasn't yet done so.

I don't know what happened, and yesterday the idea that he faked it seemed preposterous to me. But the police comment that they don't know, coupled with his "can but won't" language just screams "fishy."

47 posted on 12/07/2005 9:03:45 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: johnnyb_61820
Mirecki declined to clarify the discrepancy when asked about it Tuesday outside the sheriff’s office.
“I can; I just don’t want to,” he said.

And that, my friends, says it all right there.

48 posted on 12/07/2005 9:04:53 AM PST by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: Right Wing Professor

It may turn out that he was beaten up. It could even turn out that he was beaten up for reasons having nothing to do with his childish behavior on the ID issue. Or maybe he fell down the stairs at home and decided to create a good Politically Correct story out of his bruises.

I don't have enough facts to make a judgment. If he was beaten for his opinions he didn't deserve it. But he doesn't seem to be a guy who's playing with a full deck, if you ask me.


49 posted on 12/07/2005 9:05:22 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Far be it from me to suggest that science is a coincidence!


50 posted on 12/07/2005 9:08:27 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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