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Live Longer With Evolution? Evidence May Lie in Fruit Flies
NY Times ^
| December 6, 2005
| CLAUDIA DREIFUS
Posted on 12/07/2005 5:47:32 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:47:34 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:50:22 PM PST
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
To: neverdem
Dr. Rose was able to create a long-lived line of creatures he called Methuselah fliesThanks.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:51:13 PM PST
by
SouthTexas
(A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all.)
To: neverdem
"Recently, I was watching President Bush speak on the potential bird flu epidemic. Pandemic bird flu is exactly a question of evolutionary biology because grave danger will come only if the virus evolves into a form that can spread from human to human.
Of course, Bush couldn't use the word evolution. There were a few key points where I was waiting for him to use the word. Nope! The virus would "develop" the ability to move from.."
Yep, that would be a problem if the President accidentally used the word evolution - that would cost him politically.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:54:19 PM PST
by
gondramB
( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
To: SouthTexas
LOL!
Some people build better flyswatters, some people build better flies.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:57:05 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
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To: gondramB
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:57:28 PM PST
by
patton
("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
To: Vaquero
At Thanksgiving dinner we were just sharing fond memories of my great to the 23rd power aunt Drosophila and yeah I know that's where all us Melagansters get our homeobox gene array,but my squadron leader genetic great to the 13th power birthmother says I got my multifaceted bug eyes directly from auntie Drosophila.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:58:25 PM PST
by
Calusa
(Say Nick, was ya ever stung by a dead bee?)
To: patton
"It would?"
I believe it would hurt the President to admit that much working science that we depend on to save lives depends on evolution - evolution is not very popular these days.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:59:42 PM PST
by
gondramB
( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
To: neverdem
Fruit flies? I didn't know tree huggers we worth anything.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:04:21 PM PST
by
caisson71
To: neverdem
Fruit flies? I didn't know tree huggers we worth anything.
To: gondramB
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:06:36 PM PST
by
patton
("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
To: Vaquero
In the 1970's, Michael R. Rose made scientific history with experiments manipulating the life spans of fruit flies Hey, sounds like intelligent design to me!!
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:12:26 PM PST
by
bubman
To: neverdem
Really, this is quite interesting. A great leap forwards in science...
But why did you pick FRUIT FLIES?! Those hideous things live long enough already!
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:14:45 PM PST
by
Termite_Commander
(Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
To: neverdem
Page me when they turn into Democrats.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:18:39 PM PST
by
labette
(Opinions and Christian criticisms welcomed.)
To: Termite_Commander
"But why did you pick FRUIT FLIES?!" No kidding. Of course, if he could just cross the flies with Democrats, we could clean out Congress, the State Department and the Supreme Court with one can of Raid.
(For those that are semantically challenged, this post is meant as sarcasm/good-natured jest/satiric riposte/ironic comment/raucous humor/stupid joke. Okay?)
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:26:45 PM PST
by
Liberty Wins
(Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
To: Vaquero
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:30:14 PM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: bubman
Hey, sounds like intelligent design to me!! Yep, just like cows, dogs, domestic cats, and many agricultural plants. Evolution has been modified by human intellect for thousands of years. Philosophically, the interesting question is how one can measure or detect the difference between an intelligently designed and/or modified organism -- like Rose's fruit flies -- and one that evolved without any known intelligent input. In general, it doesn't appear that you can.
To: neverdem
And these fruit flies have evolved into what?, other than different kinds of flies.
FYI, I am not a religious crackpot.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:44:49 PM PST
by
rrr51
To: neverdem
Through selective breeding, Dr. Rose was able to create a long-lived line of creatures he called Methuselah flies. He then put his research into reverse and developed flies with much shortened life spans ... All this was accomplished within 12 generations by accelerating the evolutionary processes in a laboratory setting. Oh, brother. Are we back to fruitflies again? What a pantload.
1st graders repeat after me:
"selective breeding = artificial selection"
VERY GOOD CLASS! Now, repeat after me:
"artificial selection does NOT equal evolution!"
VERY GOOD, CLASS!
Out of all the hundreds of thousands of generations of fruit flies bred to study "evolution" we still have .... fruit flies.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:59:19 PM PST
by
manwiththehands
("Attack (Democrats) until they stop twitching and then attack some more." -J. Peter Mulhern)
To: gondramB
Sad but true
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posted on
12/07/2005 7:01:51 PM PST
by
qam1
(There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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