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Winter Soldier once again reviewed in Washington Post
Washington Post ^ | 12/9/2005 | vharlow

Posted on 12/09/2005 6:34:55 AM PST by vharlow

It will come as a surprise to most filmgoers that they've been waiting 30 years to see "Winter Soldier." But now that they have the chance, they won't want to miss it. This extraordinary documentary, having its first theatrical release, not only revisits events during the Vietnam War that have uncanny resonance today but also stands as a riveting example of pure filmic storytelling. An unadorned, black-and-white record of a three-day gathering in Detroit in 1971, "Winter Soldier" turns the camera on the testimony of former soldiers invited by Vietnam Veterans Against the War to share accounts of atrocities they committed or witnessed. The result is a spellbinding film that achieves impressive power through little more than the spoken word. (See Film Notes on Page 34.)

Recreational killing of civilians, rape, arson, torture: They did it, or saw it, all. Having been trained to see their enemies as less than human -- they were always called gooks or commies -- and having been taught to dissociate from the violence they were committing lest they be killed themselves, they simply learned not to care.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 1971; kerryrecord; mediabias; moviereview; propaganda; stolenvalor; vietnamwar; vvaw; wintersoldier; wp
Once again VVAW gets spotlighted as good guys in this review of the old propaganda film, Winter Soldier, in which the VVAW and John Kerry slandered our Vietnam Vets. I urge any and all of you to log onto Washington Post site and create your own review of this distorted, lying piece of trash. It seems to me that NPR and other media giants are trying to resurrect John Kerry in the eyes of the American public.
1 posted on 12/09/2005 6:34:55 AM PST by vharlow
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To: vharlow

The 2004 campaign never ended...


2 posted on 12/09/2005 6:36:35 AM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: vharlow
Uh huh. And Kerry will no doubt contribute the voice-over narrarative to the upcoming Iraq-inspired "Summer Soldier" sequel. It should be a smash hit with military-loathing Lefties everywhere.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 12/09/2005 6:38:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Interesting Times

ping


4 posted on 12/09/2005 6:41:42 AM PST by alnick
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To: vharlow
An unadorned, black-and-white record of a three-day gathering in Detroit in 1971,

An "unadorned" record would capture the participants discussing the assassination of US Senators the VVAW considered to be too pro-war.
5 posted on 12/09/2005 6:48:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: vharlow

I wonder why the Washington Post failed to mention that some of the testimonials in this film have been thoroughly debunked. Never happened, and some of these so called Veterans were, and still are, frauds.

Never mind, we know the reason, don't we?


6 posted on 12/09/2005 6:57:14 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Al Qaida's Best Friends)
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To: vharlow

I seem to recall that someone tracked down the participants and their allegations, and debunked virtually all of them. Winter Soldier was, in effect, communist propaganda, nearly all lies. Can anyone recall the debunker or the report that debunked this smear?


7 posted on 12/09/2005 6:57:58 AM PST by marktwain
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To: vharlow

It's really too bad that the Swifties got off message. I have been hoping to see a meaningful documentary that would describe -- clearly -- where we were in the war when the antiwar movement gained its momentum, what, exactly, was the damage that John Kerry and other leaders of the antiwar movement did to our prospects of success, and what were the details of cooperation between the US-based antiwar movement and the Viet Cong and other enemies of the US.


8 posted on 12/09/2005 7:01:09 AM PST by Piranha
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To: vharlow

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value."

General Washington had this essay by Thomas Paine read to the troops at Valley Forge. Some have said that this work kept America in the battle for freedom in the darkest days of the Revolution. Perhaps the Party of Surrender of Appeasement should read it.


10 posted on 12/09/2005 7:01:53 AM PST by sine_nomine (Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
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To: centurion316

"I wonder why the Washington Post failed to mention that some of the testimonials in this film have been thoroughly debunked. Never happened, and some of these so called Veterans were, and still are, frauds."

It's not the truth that matters, but the seriouness of the allegations.

/DNC mantra.


11 posted on 12/09/2005 7:03:10 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: vharlow

Hard to believe that Post is reviewing this seriously.

Every one but one of these guys were revealed as liars, especially John Kerry.

Are they serious?


12 posted on 12/09/2005 7:03:37 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: vharlow
An unadorned, black-and-white record of a three-day gathering in Detroit in 1971, "Winter Soldier" turns the camera on the testimony of former soldiers invited by Vietnam Veterans Against the War to share accounts of atrocities they committed or witnessed.

Some of these "former soldiers" never served in the U.S. armed forces and, if they did, were never assigned to a unit in Vietnam. Let's identify them for what they were....imposters and liars participating in a carefully staged effort to discredit the United States of America.

13 posted on 12/09/2005 7:07:07 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: vharlow

My Review is done.

But I have yet to see it posted. We'll see ;)


14 posted on 12/09/2005 7:08:37 AM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the Communists)
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To: vharlow

Evidently, the reporter did little research on Winter Soldier.

Try Stolen Valor, by B.G.Burkett, where he shows these "witnesses" to be liars and frauds. Or read John O'Neill's Unfit For Command. Or view the real documentary, Stolen Honor by Carlton Sherwood.

Or talk to Steve Pitkin, a real vet, who rode in the car with The Loser from D.C. to Detroit. Steve was coached to lie about what he had seen by Kerry, and has since recanted his lies and apologised to the American people.


15 posted on 12/09/2005 7:12:11 AM PST by Bob from De
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To: vharlow

This review can't be serious -- this has got to be a hoax or something. The "Winter Soldier" accusations have been debunked as fraud -- obviously the Washington Post knows that as well as anyone.


16 posted on 12/09/2005 7:20:54 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: squarebarb

bttt


17 posted on 12/09/2005 7:23:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Great going! There are now 5 negative reviews of this blasphemous film!!! Thanks to all and keep reviewing....
God Bless you one and all!


18 posted on 12/09/2005 7:30:35 AM PST by vharlow (http://www.vventures.net)
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To: vharlow

can someone explain the term "winter soldier" please? thanks


19 posted on 12/09/2005 7:35:04 AM PST by beebuster2000
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Good Lord!  I can't believe that anyone would want to resurrect this piece of trash.  The claim that this is an important historical documentary is complete hogwash unless it is used as an example of how lies can effect the policies of a government.

 

20 posted on 12/09/2005 7:45:27 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: beebuster2000

See post #10 above. Thomas Paine....Gen. Washington read these words to his soldiers during the long cold winter at Valley Forge.


21 posted on 12/09/2005 8:09:33 AM PST by lepayne
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To: vharlow

Well, I submitted my review, we'll see if they "post" it, no pun intended.

The Washington Post has shown itself repeatedly and without exception to have lost all credibility. Mind numbingly stupid or just plain liars. I vote for both.

I think a boycott of the Washington Post should be started.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 9:02:25 AM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: alnick

Thanks. I sent the Post a letter about this agitprop review.

I'll post it here after they decide whether or not to publish it.


23 posted on 12/09/2005 12:01:27 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: marktwain

I don't know if it is who you are thinking of, but B.G. Burkett debunked a lot of those involved in Winter Soldier in his book Stolen Valor.
During the election there was a Winter Soldier website that had a lot of the original statements debunked and info about the phony witnesses. Sorry, don't have the url.


24 posted on 12/09/2005 12:21:32 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Bob from De

I was at the Rally in DC, held by the Swifties, 9/2004. Steve Pitkin spoke and was in tears, it takes a lot of balls to get up and admit that you were a scum bag in front of 7,000 Viet Vets, Iraqi Vets, their wives and children.


25 posted on 12/09/2005 12:23:47 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: Tammy8
During the election there was a Winter Soldier website that had a lot of the original statements debunked and info about the phony witnesses. Sorry, don't have the url.

That would be WinterSoldier.com, which is still going strong.

26 posted on 12/09/2005 3:44:00 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Little Bill
I was at the Rally in DC, held by the Swifties, 9/2004. Steve Pitkin spoke and was in tears, it takes a lot of balls to get up and admit that you were a scum bag in front of 7,000 Viet Vets, Iraqi Vets, their wives and children.

Video of Steve Pitkin's remarks at the Kerry Lied Rally is available here.

27 posted on 12/09/2005 3:50:55 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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