Ancient Humans Brought Bottle Gourds To The Americas From Asia

Harvard University/Eureka Alert ^ | 12-13-2005 | Steve Brandt

[tumblindice]

Do you have anything to declare?
Yes, I have these large American jugs.

[JimSEA]

Just an afterthought, musical rattles in Southeast Asia and as used by Pueblo Indians (ie. Hopi and Zuni) seem identical.

[MarineBrat]

"I want to have babies."

Have you got a womb?

[rightinthemiddle]

I'm going to carry it around in a box.

[InsureAmerica]

i thought this was a thread about robert byrd

[Sacajaweau]

You're quite right. The origination is interchangeable.

Talked to a farmer this year about gourds. Never realized that the same color/shape came from the same plant and he could propogate a certain shape/color by selection.....which is what he does.

[MarineBrat]

Larks' tongues. Otters' noses. Ocelot spleens.

[rightinthemiddle]

Repeat after me: We Are All Individuals.

[SunkenCiv]

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[ApplegateRanch]

What about the Japanese Current?

If it works for the Japanese glass net-floats my family used to pick up on the Oregon beaches prior to & during WWII, why wouldn't it work for these?

[blam]

". Never realized that the same color/shape came from the same plant and he could propogate a certain shape/color by selection.....which is what he does."

How does he do that?

[blam]

"If it works for the Japanese glass net-floats my family used to pick up on the Oregon beaches prior to & during WWII, why wouldn't it work for these?"

Didn't the glass net-floats begin their voyage from far out to sea?

[beebuster2000]

"These people did not arrive here empty-handed; they brought a domesticated plant and dogs with them. They arrived with important tools necessary to survive and thrive on a new continent, including some knowledge of and experience with plant domestication."

Duh, major discovery?. I guess you would too if you were crossing the behring straits on the ice or in a canoe!!!

[GreenHornet]

Thick-skinned bottle gourds widely used as containers by prehistoric peoples were likely brought to the Americas some 10,000 years ago by individuals who arrived from Asia

Archaeologists noted that some of the gourds served as 12 ounce containers, while others held 16 ounces. Most were found areas believed to be the site of ancient athletic contests.

[Landru]

"Bottle Gourds".
From asia.
Brought here 10,000 years ago, huh.

...no kidding? :o)

[1rudeboy]

10,000 year-long trade deficit in gourds.

[ApplegateRanch]

I honestly don't know, but would assume (BAD word; BAD!) fairly close in to the islands.

OTOH, they could have been lost in or near the Aleutians.

Still my point was they always tend to think things only float one direction: east to west; Old World to New.

[SunkenCiv]

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[GreenHornet]

Thick-skinned bottle gourds widely used as containers by prehistoric peoples were likely brought to the Americas some 10,000 years ago by individuals who arrived from Asia

This is possibly the earliest documented example of Take-Out.