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Iranian Rockets Will Soon Be Able to Reach Berlin (Iran gets missile parts from North Korea, China)
Bild Zeitung (In German) ^ | 17-12-2005 | Einar Koch

Posted on 12/16/2005 12:28:23 AM PST by 12B

My translated synopsis:

Bild Zeitung quotes BND (German Intelligence) sources saying Iran has purchased 18 kits (BM-25 Mobile missiles) from North Korea. The kits could help extend the range of its Russian SS-N-6 missiles to 3500 km, the distance between Teheran and Berlin. Previously it was only known that Iran had Shehab-3 missiles with a range of 1300 km. The BND warns that Germany and other partzs of Euriope could be threatened mid to long term by Iran's new first strike capabilities.

The BND has intelligence indicating Iranian scientists are working intensively to attach nuclear warheads to its missiles. Near Täbriz, 600 km North of Teheran, the BND has located a test-pad for silo based missiles.

The BND also warned that China had shipped aluminum rings to Iran which could be used to build multi-stage rockets with a range of 10,000 kn and which could reach the United States.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; communism; iran; mullahs; northkorea; nuclearweapons; redjihad; russia

1 posted on 12/16/2005 12:28:26 AM PST by 12B
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To: 12B

If you read German, click on the article headed "Irans Raketen
reichen bald bis Berlin!".

It's the Bild Zeitung so don't click on the "Boobie" pictures.


2 posted on 12/16/2005 12:31:46 AM PST by 12B
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To: 12B

Wasn't Saddamned trying to buy delivery systems from North Korea?


3 posted on 12/16/2005 12:36:30 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: 12B

...old but related stuff:

Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts

US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437369/posts

...and much more recently,...

Russia annoyed at Poland missile shield plan: paper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1533462/posts


4 posted on 12/16/2005 12:43:20 AM PST by familyop (Engineers!)
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To: familyop

'AXIS' of EVIL


5 posted on 12/16/2005 1:01:27 AM PST by rhainw
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To: 12B

First We Take Manhattan. Then we take Berlin

Leonard Cohen


6 posted on 12/16/2005 1:03:17 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: Gordongekko909

Isn't that where the SCUD originates?


7 posted on 12/16/2005 1:19:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: 12B

PING


8 posted on 12/16/2005 1:29:22 AM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: thoughtomator
SCUD is originally a NATO designation (SS-1 Scud) of the Russian missile. Iraq had a "SCUD" variant of this missile.
9 posted on 12/16/2005 1:36:23 AM PST by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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To: thoughtomator
Scuds were originally built by the Soviets; the North Korean ballistic missile is based on the same technology. In fact, you could go so far as to say that the Scud is the AK-47 of ballistic missiles; it's used by 1) nations that we don't like 2) who can't afford anything else.

With an effective range of 1,000 to 1,300 km, a Scud launched from Iran couldn't even reach Israel with any reasonable degree of accuracy. Israel is small, and the chance of hitting local friendlies is too great.

No, a more tempting target would be Europe. It really doesn't matter where the thing detonates there; all hell will break loose.

10 posted on 12/16/2005 1:36:54 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: 12B
Iranian Rockets Will Soon Be Able to Reach Berlin

*World's smallest violin plays for the Germans...*

11 posted on 12/16/2005 1:58:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rhainw

'AXIS' of EVIL is correct. But somehow I doubt their primary target will be Berlin. They've already stated what they want to do and who they want to wipe off the face of the planet. First.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 2:21:17 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: 12B

Iran is acting like a bully with a set of brass knuckles hidden in his pocket. Iran is daring the world to take action (maybe because it thinks it has a hidden terror weapon?) It is in the interest of all Western Nations to stop Iran before it does something we will all be sorry for.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 2:25:17 AM PST by Rapscallion (They're not Americans; they're democrats.)
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To: 12B

Damn.60-some years too late to help out.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 2:51:31 AM PST by John W
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To: 12B

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=71074190&p=7yx7449z

Bloomberg also carrying the story but we're not supposed to link to them.


15 posted on 12/16/2005 2:57:32 AM PST by 12B
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To: Gordongekko909


With a nuke you don't have to hit a target, you just have to get it in the neighborhood.
Say lob one anywhere near the center of Israel and it's all over cept maybe a response of a nuke or ten from Israel.


16 posted on 12/16/2005 2:59:45 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: 12B
we are not dealing with a rational government -anything can happen. Something stupid and disastrous probably will. Move against them and you will be damned by the worlds press and UN. Someone with clearer vision than I have needs to grab hold of this situation. Thank God for America - without whom (EU) we would be defenseless.
17 posted on 12/16/2005 3:05:36 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: 12B

Why would they want to hit Germany? Didn't they just say that the Holocaust didn't happen? That sounds to me like they are sympathetic to the Germans.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 3:21:44 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: 12B

More importantly, when will they be able to reach Paris?

"Save your White Flags, France will surrender again!!!!"


19 posted on 12/16/2005 3:26:43 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Rapscallion

Yup. Nukes in the hands of Islamofascist madmen would be the world's worst nightmare. I see much heat and fire in Iran's future unless there's a sudden regime change and a total reversal in direction.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 3:35:05 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Caipirabob

<*World's smallest violin plays for the Germans...*>

I wouldnt be surprised to find out the Germans have been activily helping Iran.


21 posted on 12/16/2005 3:35:35 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Caipirabob

22 posted on 12/16/2005 3:37:53 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: 12B

It would be too bad if we had to nuke Tehran. There are some good anti-Islamofascists there. Maybe they can knock the mullahs off before anything bad has too happen.


23 posted on 12/16/2005 3:41:02 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

too=to


24 posted on 12/16/2005 3:41:25 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: 12B
didn't the Israeli leader say that "showtime" is the end of March 06?
jus sit back, relax and wait 3 mos....
25 posted on 12/16/2005 4:28:24 AM PST by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: Gordongekko909
the Scud is the AK-47 of ballistic missiles; it's used by 1) nations that we don't like 2) who can't afford anything else.

Thats a slander on the AK. It will hit what you aim it at most of the time. With the SCUD the only way to tell where it landed is to turn on CNN.....
26 posted on 12/16/2005 4:34:07 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: 12B

And Paris, and Brussels, and the Hague.

This is what you get when you coddle evil.


27 posted on 12/16/2005 4:41:55 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: rhainw
'AXIS' of EVIL

H1, H2, H3: AXLES OF EVIL...

28 posted on 12/16/2005 4:53:11 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 12B
The BND warns that Germany and other partzs of Euriope could be threatened mid to long term by Iran's new first strike capabilities.

How long before these bozos acquire sub-orbital capability and MIRV's? Maybe now the EU and NATO will support a pre-emptive strike by Israel. Let the Israelis do the work and run the risks before the Europeans have to take action.

29 posted on 12/16/2005 5:01:48 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 12B

So does Germany still believe in the "wait & see" strategy ???


30 posted on 12/16/2005 5:02:20 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: 12B

I hope the Germans don't think they can ring up Uncle Sam to come riding to their rescue. They don't need the steenkeen USA, remember?


31 posted on 12/16/2005 5:04:45 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Caipirabob

Who sold the Iranians most of their reactor technology? I know France was the major supplier for Iraq.


32 posted on 12/16/2005 5:18:31 AM PST by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Bogey78O

Russia, Soviet Union (whatever this month) supplies Iran and most of the middle east with Nuc technology.


33 posted on 12/16/2005 5:24:54 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: 12B

It's not the missiles I worry about. It's the one in the car trunk.


34 posted on 12/16/2005 5:27:22 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: 12B

Give the Iranians a break!

We all know that they live 50-100 years behind the times, regardng technology. Perhaps they've read some guy named Hitler was threatening the world and wanted to help us maintain our freedom??


35 posted on 12/16/2005 5:32:31 AM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Do I win an award if I guess right and say...ummmmm...

Israel?


36 posted on 12/16/2005 5:32:50 AM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: 12B

"The BND also warned that China had shipped aluminum rings to Iran which could be used to build multi-stage rockets with a range of 10,000 kn and which could reach the United States."

I'm sure IAEA chief Mohammad El Baradei (recent winner of the Nobel "Peace" Prize) will say that these rings are not for multi-stage rockets and that the world should cease harassing the Iranians who are only trying to develop a peaceful nuclear "energy" program. What a crock of crap!


37 posted on 12/16/2005 5:38:52 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Rapscallion
Iran is daring the world to take action (maybe because it thinks it has a hidden terror weapon?)

I am guessing Iran has the bomb.

38 posted on 12/16/2005 5:45:42 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 12B

It seems the cold war is not over, Russia and China have just become partners.


39 posted on 12/16/2005 5:57:21 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Gordongekko909
Wasn't Saddamned trying to buy delivery systems from North Korea?

Yemen, which received about $2 BILLION in USA funded World Bank money, immediately purchased missiles from North Korea with that USA taxpayer money.

Earlier in the year, after a previous purchase of missile parts by Yemen from North Korea, Ari Fleischer, President George Bush's press secretary, said the following:

"President Bush has no concern about Yemen. The government of Yemen has been making constructive steps in working with the United States on the war against terror."—Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary, August 23, 2002

Another American official noted that "when the sanctions against N. Korea are announced in the Federal Register in the coming days [early in the year 2002], Yemen will not be identified as the purchasing country. Yemen committed itself to joining the war on terrorism following the Sept. 11 attacks. . ."

Incredible.

The official went on:

"U.S. authorities asked Yemen why it bought the parts, and officials in that country apologized, promised not to do so again and pledged to help in other areas. . . The United States decided against any penalties for Yemen."

Two months later, Yemen takes the $2.3 BILLION in American taxpayer money, and buys more missiles from North Korea.

What will happen to Iraq will happen to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and other states. No State should think that it is distant from those threats. Arab countries should have a unified stance and express total opposition to such a threat [war against Iraq] . . . We have bought these missiles and this is a legitimate right for Yemen. — President Saleh of Yemen, August, 24, 2002

40 posted on 12/16/2005 6:20:31 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: 12B

Axis of Evil


41 posted on 12/16/2005 6:23:39 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: Joe Boucher
a nuke or ten

or more ... and I doubt the targets would be limited to Iranian ... more like the last part of The Godfather, i.e. all family business will be settled.

Somebody in Tehran should grab the wheel from the idiots now in charge. They are on course to get everybody killed.

42 posted on 12/16/2005 6:38:38 AM PST by katana
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To: beaver fever
First We Take Manhattan. Then we take Berlin Leonard Cohen

I gather he has gotten beyond "Oh take me to the slaughter house, I will wait there with the lambs." LOL

(I love Leonard Cohen's morose music. Must be the limited sunlight up there.)

43 posted on 12/16/2005 6:56:37 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: 12B

Don't forget the Russians!


44 posted on 12/16/2005 1:54:40 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: American in Israel

And Russia is reverting to some sort of form of communism.... Once KGB communists, Always KGB communists


45 posted on 12/16/2005 9:44:31 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: 12B


Iran Bought Missiles From North Korea: Press
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Iran has bought 18 BM-25 missiles from North Korea which the Islamic Republic wants to transform to extend their range, the German press reported Dec. 16.

”Iran has bought 18 disassembled BM-25 missiles from North Korea with a range of 2,500 kilometers (1,553 miles),” Bild newspaper said, citing a report from the German secret services.

It added that Iran’s ultra conservative President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants to have the range of the missiles “extended to 3,500 kilometers”.

The newspaper said that until now Iran only had Shehab-3 missiles with a range of 1,300 kilometers.

It further cited the secret service report as warning that “with a longer range, and the probability that (Tehran) would try to equip the missiles with nuclear warheads, there is the risk that Iran could strike at Israel and parts of central Europe.”

It added that according to the German intelligence services, Iranian experts were already working on fitting the missiles with nuclear warheads.

The report comes amid outrage at remarks by Ahmadinejad calling the Holocaust a “myth”, and a warning from Tehran on Friday that it would respond in a “swift and destructive” way if attacked by Israel.


46 posted on 12/17/2005 4:17:28 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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