Finnish Study finds IVF Increases Risk of Deformity

Life Site News ^ | 12.23.05 | Gudrun Schultz

[Katya]

That actually makes sense, usually only the strongest swimmers survive...a scientist has no way of knowing "who" that might be.

[nmh]

I'm not surprised to read this. I know quite a few parents with IVF babies and in each situation there has been problems ... "failure to thrive"... "developmental delays" ... is another popular one.

Maybe it's best to stick with the old fashioned method!

[nmh]

Adoption could be a consideration ... .

[Coleus]

Without IVF, my children wouldn't be here. >>

and where are the other children you created using the IVF process? you know, the "discarded" embryos?

[nmh]

It depends on where you adopt them from and who you are working with. Some agencies are better than others.

Best Wishes for your twins!

[nmh]

You got away cheap. It cost my neighbor alittle over 20K for one IVF round. Out of three rounds they got two kids.

[nmh]

Ah ... nobody wants to talk about that ... .

They typically fertilize two eggs or more and hope for the best.

[aberaussie]

...how long did it take you from start to finish (i.e, first "event" whatever that would be) to live birth) and how much did the whole thing cost, including pregnancy related expenses?

My sister-in-law had infertitily problems and finally resorted to IVF. Her first proceedure took, so I think with all the prep and stuff it was under two years. That does not count all the other medical stuff she went through prior to that trying to get pregnant the regular way.

[Aliska]

and where are the other children you created using the IVF process? you know, the "discarded" embryos?

My this got ugly fast. From a human pov that is my main objection to in vitro fertilization. I can't find it in my heart to bash the proud and happy father of twins.

I remember when this was just a gleam in the scientists' eyes, so to speak. My elderly grandmother had heard about "test tube" babies (early 50's) on the radio and was shocked and made some contemptuous remark I cannot exactly remember about it, but it stuck with me. She wasn't catholic.

Then the pope came out and condemned it.

Once a couple has gone this route, however, it would seem we should be happy for them to finally have children they so desperately wanted.

I did tell my son early on not to donate sperm to any sperm bank. Now the subject of organ donation has come up in the family yesterday. There are some things about that that worry me. I had thought that you had to be brain dead but not dead was not a particularly good thing, but now I have to grapple with the thought that they might harvest eggs, too. People really have to know what they are signing on to.

After what happened in those New York funeral homes, I don't know if anybody can be trusted any more.

Back to the subject at hand, no matter how you choose to conceive, there *IS* a definite genetic risk if you are a carrier of anything, some you may not even know about.

[madprof98]

BTW, having children is about the children, not the parents.

This needs to be said over and over and over. Sadly, self-described conservatives are not one bit more likely to believe it than self-described liberals. It's all just ME, ME and ME.

One of the hot items in artificial reproduction, after all, is the quest for the Designer Baby. Any that don't meet the bill are simply destroyed, either before or after they are implanted in the womb. Needless to say, this quest is never really about the welfare of a child.

[madprof98]

A "crime".......and "it's not nice to fool Mother Nature"? Tell that to my beautiful and healthy twin 3 year old boys.

I have a truly wonderful (adopted) daughter who was conceived in a liaison between a streetwalker and an anonymous customer. Her very existence is a miracle to me. But that doesn't make the circumstances of her conception morally right.

[Coleus]

My this got ugly fast. From a human pov that is my main objection to in vitro fertilization. I can't find it in my heart to bash the proud and happy father of twins. >>

that's why the procedure should be outlawed. It's abortion, plain and simple and why there are 400,000 frozen embryos/babies in the USA alone. Who knows, besides God, how many of the implanted embryos are "passed" by the mother and wind up on feminine hygiene products or in the toilet. Yes, it's ugly. And that's why the embryonic stem cell research is being opposed by many because people understand that is what we all began as, an embryo, and it's barbaric to harvest babies for their body parts.

Sad thing is, this man is not the happy father of twins, he's the happy father of 10 pairs of twins. And one of these days his twins at home will realize where their siblings are. That's pretty ugly too.

[Coleus]

They typically fertilize two eggs or more and hope for the best.
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it's much more than two, it's about 20 that are fertilized, where about 3 or more are implanted each time the procedure is done..

[Xenalyte]

What you said. Would you like to borrow my flameproof undies? They're still a bit scorched from the thread on which I declared IVF and AI selfish and self-aggrandizing.

[Coleus]

Women who don't want to have children can give them up for adoption instead of aborting, and those couples who want children can simply adopt them. But noooooo, people won't be happy with such a simple and kind solution. >>

children have been relegated to a mere commodity rather than a gift of God stemming from the conjugal act in the holy sacrament of marriage. We're a barbaric society.

[DBeers]

Calling it what you people have is beneath contempt. Walk a mile first, pals.

As the Catholic Church teaches and as a Catholic myself I oppose IVF.

[Coleus]

Actress Brooke Shields aborted How Many of her own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments

[Yaelle]

Find this study somewhere other than on that website. I can't.

IVF only increases risks due to high rates of multiples. Everyone knows multiples pregnancies are riskier.

Experts in the field (and I know one personally) are on the verge of breakthroughs that will lead us closer to one healthy embryo = one baby. This will lead to far, far less embryos frozen.

Decent, religious (and other good) people have children from IVF. Thank the Good L-rd. It is getting safer all the time.

If IVF is against nature, so is the IV antibiotic that will save your life one day. And the kidney transplant. And the defibrillator used to get your heart restarted and give you another decade with your family.

G-d gave us perfect morality. It is up to us G-dfearing people to keep helping the ethically challenged make the right moral decisions for society. Technology can save lives; we just have to apply it properly.

[Coleus]

If IVF is against nature, so is the IV antibiotic that will save your life one day. >>>

Giving ONE person an antibiotic doesn't kill 20 to save the one. IVF does. Up to 24 children are made, 3 or more are implanted at a time, any or all of those three are discarded into a hygiene product or toilet, the others are put on ice for life and/or used for the barbaric embryonic stem cell research where babies are harvested for their body parts. Children have now been relegated to mere property and not viewed as a gift from God.

This procedure is very immoral; I suggest you study moral relativism and utilitarianism.

Actress Brooke Shields aborted How Many of her own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments

[ukwildcats]

what the hell do you know about me and my circumstance? answer: absolutely nothing. My wife and I conceived and had twins with NO FROZEN EMBRYOS left over. "10 pairs of twins"............you, sir are a fool.

Holier than thou pr...