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It's nice to know there are things you can count on like the Swallows Returning to Capistrano, and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

Only new twist to this one is that it's an actual professor in the Texas State University system, which doesn't really reflect well on Texas.


4 posted on 12/28/2005 3:08:40 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
"... creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way."

I don't know about that. Shake up an earth-sized box of Legos and watch what "evolves"?

But shine some sunlight in it. That'll do the trick!

9 posted on 12/28/2005 3:14:08 PM PST by manwiththehands (My Christmas wish: I wish Republicans were running the country.)
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To: Strategerist
and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

Could you tell us with your reasoning why the portion of text shown here is wrong. Use the example used in the text and tell me why they are "hilarious" to you.

10 posted on 12/28/2005 3:19:09 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Strategerist
Well, look, it's UT El Paso. For all most Texans care that's New Mexico.
12 posted on 12/28/2005 3:22:15 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Strategerist

Yep, this professor is clearly one ignorant creationist hick. If only he had the wisdom and insight evident in this thread, he would realize how much of an uninformed rube he is.


16 posted on 12/28/2005 3:26:46 PM PST by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Strategerist
and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

Making assertions is pointless. Even Ayatollahs can do that.
How about explaining to us exactly why and/or how the second law was misunderstood, and what does it really say?

17 posted on 12/28/2005 3:26:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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which doesn't really reflect well on Texas.

Apparently it doesn't bode well for you either.

20 posted on 12/28/2005 3:30:35 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Strategerist

I have both a BS and MS in Science.

My particular field is Computer Science.

I used to believe in classial evolution.

It is, however, a theory that one must take on "faith" rather than "factual supposition".

Take for example, a computer program. Let's say I let you start in a high level language (C or Fortran). This is equivalent to DNA at the gene level - that is, each C or Fortran statement does "work" and performs a function, rather than be a meaningless garble of characters - which is what level evolution must operate at.

How long do you suppose it would be before I could randomly generate even a simple useful program? One whose complexity is one billionth that of a living, reproducing, intelligent lifeform?

Why can't man, with all his 21st Century wisdom, create anything from scratch that can 1) reproduce and 2) feed itself and 3) be smart enough to survive?

So I can even let you DESIGN your lifeform - can you do it?

and it all happened, and coincidentally in just the way that the first life could 1) reproduce 2) eat 3) avoid death (intelligence).

Yeah....right.


21 posted on 12/28/2005 3:34:24 PM PST by BereanBrain
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... completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

Agreed.

24 posted on 12/28/2005 3:38:29 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Strategerist
"Only new twist to this one is that it's an actual professor in the Texas State University system, which doesn't really reflect well on Texas."

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Don't bring a math professor to a thermodynamics debate.

36 posted on 12/28/2005 3:47:54 PM PST by Neanderthal
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...creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.
I have a bachelor's degree in chemistry and a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering (both with GPAs greater than 3.5). I lectured a Physical Chemistry lab my senior year. I can't even remember how many thermo classes that I took to obtain both degrees.
Can you explain clearly, with examples, exactly how this author does not understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I would especially like to hear about the "hilarious and embarassing" parts.

49 posted on 12/28/2005 3:58:52 PM PST by DallasMike (Call me Dallasaurus)
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The best part of the re-opening of this old chestnut is that it shows such remarkable respect for the aged and infirm even if it's just for aged and infirm arguments. This is so old and weak I cannot muster the interest to drag out the obvious counters to it. Let the younger among us do so if need be.


69 posted on 12/28/2005 4:07:55 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Man what a scary interpretation of the Second Law. This guy should be in a rubber room.
70 posted on 12/28/2005 4:08:26 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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Only new twist to this one is that it's an actual professor in the Texas State University system, which doesn't really reflect well on Texas.

He's a mathematician. You know what's coming with creationist mathematicians. Don't look at the math. Look at everything else. In this case, physics and biology.

84 posted on 12/28/2005 4:14:49 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Strategerist
It's nice to know there are things you can count on like the Swallows Returning to Capistrano, and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.

Not nearly as embarassing as evolutionists who compare a so called theory of evolution with the law of gravity.

130 posted on 12/28/2005 5:08:06 PM PST by connectthedots
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I am glad I took ME200 (Thermodynamics) at Purdue University back in 1981. It allows me to stare in shock and horror at such a horrible article. You are quite correct, the professor's misunderstanding is atrocious.

For example, two atoms might not form a molecule unless a packet of energy from the sun provides some activation energy. Since the sun is rapidly going downhill a small local area going the opposite way on earth isn't a violation of the second law.
221 posted on 12/28/2005 6:58:08 PM PST by TheIndependentMinded ("I went insane once, it did me a world of good.")
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It is clear by now that there is a "scholars union." The "scholars union" believes in the religion of Darwin, and anyone not believing in Darwin's theories are not accepted in the union, no matter what their academic accomplishments, their scientific credentials or their skills. They must adhere to the belief system of the union, or they are belittled. This Texas scientist, therefore, will be as belittled on Free Republic as a Kent Hovind. Which may actually mean that Kent Hovind is at least as qualified to speak as the U of T scientist, or as much as any of the Darwinian evolutionists. There is entropy in the "scholars union."
467 posted on 12/29/2005 5:52:06 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Strategerist
It's nice to know there are things you can count on like the Swallows Returning to Capistrano, and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way. Only new twist to this one is that it's an actual professor in the Texas State University system, which doesn't really reflect well on Texas.

What a brilliant refutation of the professor's thesis.

927 posted on 12/30/2005 4:37:19 PM PST by razorbak
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[It's nice to know there are things you can count on like the Swallows Returning to Capistrano, and creationists completely misunderstanding the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a hilarious and embarassing way.]

Someday, you will be embarrassed but not hilarious. The misapplication of junk science that supports the religious fable of evolution will have it's end when men meet God. "It is appointed to a man once to die, and then the judgment."
The evolutionist materialistic atheist will understand in that day(hopefully before though) how that God created all things by Jesus Christ our Lord.

"Lord,thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:"
1,152 posted on 12/31/2005 4:38:38 PM PST by kindred (Lord,thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:)
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