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Windows XP Home: obsolete sooner than you expect
Ars Technica ^
| 3 January 2006
| Ken "Caesar" Fisher
Posted on 01/04/2006 9:59:39 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: TXBSAFH
I just had to fix our product so it would run on NT, even though we say we don't support it. I guess this customer was just too important.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:23:42 AM PST
by
MarkeyD
(Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
To: ShadowAce
While I am currently happy with XP Home, I don't know why I would expect to be in 2 more years. This system is going on 7 years old, been upgraded a couple times, but will not last forever.
I happen to not expect computer hardware or software to have a long life. Computers and computing will likely always be changing. To me it only makes sense for MS to focus on development of new products, rather than being required or expected to continue to support old and outdated ones in perpetuity.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:25:19 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Isn't ME closer to '95/98? Or are you just talking features?
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:25:23 AM PST
by
MarkeyD
(Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
To: TXBSAFH
Do the Linux companies now provide support for humans, or is it still RTFM?
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:26:09 AM PST
by
MarkeyD
(Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
To: goodnesswins
Keep it, keep it updated until they stop supporting it, and then, if and when you need to, upgrade it.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:26:24 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
To: ShadowAce
I've always gotten XP Pro on all my computers, because XP Home lacks some important security features.
But I would guess they will probably keep updating Home. I'm not sure how many extra man hours that would involve on their part, but I should think it would be fairly simple to do, and therefore worth the effort for the good will.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:26:49 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: NoCmpromiz
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:27:50 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
To: ElTianti
"Linux...Comming soon"
Linux isn't ready for prime time.
It's a decent server, but as a desktop... it's still lacking. It's pretty darn impressive for freeware, but still lacking. And each "distro", (distribution), has it's own quirks. Gnome vs. KDE as the gui, installer issues, hardware drivers.
Linux is fun, and if you have a small business network with no need to be interoperable with other businesses, it's a legitimate choice.
But, if you have it, and want to work from home over the cisco vpn... ooops. If you have issues and your office supports windows, oooops. If you want to run Civ4 to play in your spare time, oooops. You get the idea.
Microsoft is still the big dog, and will be for the next couple years, at least.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:28:20 AM PST
by
brownsfan
(It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:28:31 AM PST
by
TXBSAFH
("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
To: goodnesswins
"OKAY....so we have XP Home on a laptop here at home....what should we do....our desktop has XP Pro......any suggestions out there? (And, I'm not looking for smart a** remarks/suggestions.)"
Don't do anything. XP Home will continue to work just fine, and the updates will go on for at least another year. By the time you need an OS update, you'll be ready for a new laptop, anyhow.
Heck, I have a Windows 98SE desktop sitting here that I use for some tasks. I keep all my customer records on it, and it's not connected to the net. That way, my customer records can't be hacked. I just move my old PCs over to the side and use 'em for something else, older software and all. Oddly, the version of Excel I have on the 98SE computer still works just fine. Isn't that amazing?
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:28:34 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: RedBloodedAmerican
XP Home is closer to Me. XP Pro is closer to 2000.
That's not true. Windows ME is based on the Windows 95/98 kernel.
XP Home is the same base as Windows XP Pro, except that it cannot join a domain and is crippled in a few other ways in regards to networking (no Remote Desktop, IIS, group policy) and simplified security (no file-level access control) and no multi-processor support.
Kernel-wise, it is the same as XP Pro, which is based on the NT/2000 kernel.
To: HairOfTheDog
To me it only makes sense for MS to focus on development of new products, rather than being required or expected to continue to support old and outdated ones in perpetuity. I happen to agree here. I think that what this writer is saying is that MS is terminating support sooner than expected. That is what is upsetting him.
However, is MS doesn't have to support older versions, then they can concentrate on writing better bugs software in newer version.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:28:50 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: MarkeyD
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:30:11 AM PST
by
TXBSAFH
("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
To: RedBloodedAmerican
XP is NOT NT5.1 Not even close. you just showed your cards.
17 posted on 01/04/2006 11:21:15 AM MST by RedBloodedAmerican
That information was given to me two years ago at a NDA seminar by a MS system sales rep.
Take it for what it is worth.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:31:52 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Trust in the YHvH for ever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
To: ShadowAce
Unfortunately, Microsoft is still the only viable PC desktop OS for consumers.
If some permutation of Linux would have ever entered the mainstream in a serious manner to capture the consumer market, it would have already happened.
For those who can't stand Microsoft, get a Mac. It's your only serious alternative.
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:32:28 AM PST
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi!)
To: MarkeyD
Do the Linux companies now provide support for humans, or is it still RTFM?
LOL
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:33:01 AM PST
by
reagan_fanatic
(Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
To: ShadowAce
Linux looks more likely every day...
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:33:41 AM PST
by
atomicpossum
(Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
To: ShadowAce
When that day comes, XP Home users may feel left out in the cold, because they will no longer qualify for security updates, and will not be able to purchase support from Microsoft. How many people with XP Home actually call and pay Microsoft for support? My bet is "not many".
Also expect that MS will extend availability of security updates for XP Home. They almost always extend the end of support dates.
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
01/04/2006 10:36:40 AM PST
by
dennisw
("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
To: ShadowAce
I might point out that Windows 2000 server is "officially" at the end of life, meaning that no service packs and only security updates will be offered, the latter officially to paying support customers only but in practice to everyone because (1) there aren't any updates (lately) that
haven't been security-related, and (2) Microsoft can't really afford to let their branded boxes become unsupported virus factories.
It turns out to be harder to withdraw technical support from an established platform than simply declaring it won't be offered anymore. That's another downside to being number one in market share.
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