Posted on 01/05/2006 12:09:34 PM PST by EternalHope
IRAN: Bad Moon Rising (Vanity)
All living former Secretaries of State and Secretaries of Defense have been summoned to a meeting tomorrow (Friday, January 6, 2006). To the best of my knowledge this has never been done before.
Our current Secretary of State is on a whirlwind tour of our allies, but will (presumably) be back in time for this meeting.
Why? Why NOW? Is something up?
These facts are not in dispute:
1. The current leadership in Iran is religiously determined to exterminate Israel, and to spread Islam to all the world. They have expressly stated that Allah would be please if Israel were nuked, even if every Muslim capital were destroyed in retaliation. They are psychopathic.
2. We must take action VERY soon or Iran will have nukes.
3. Iran already has the almost certain ability to retaliate against the U.S., using unconventional weapons of mass destruction. (I also thought Saddam would retaliate against us. I hope I'm wrong about this too.)
1+2+3=Bad Moon Rising. Trouble on the Way.
The Iranian people do not support their insane government. But they have not been able to overthrow that government, and there is almost no chance that they will be able to do so in time.
The stakes could not be higher. An attack on Iran could throw the whole world into turmoil. No one can be sure how something like this will turn out. It could even be the trigger that starts a generalized war between Islam and those parts of the rest of the world that still have the will to fight.
And yet, if the U.S. does not eliminate the Iranian threat, Israel will HAVE to. It is a clear matter of national survival for them.
An attack by Israel is quite likely to spark general war in the middle east. Although it is fraught with peril, the less risky course is for the U.S. to do the job, not Israel.
The Democrats know action cannot be delayed much longer. And they are intensely opposed. Is it a coincidence that, right NOW, an all out attempt is being made by the media and the Democrat party to destroy the President and cripple our ability to fight the war on terror?
I believe President Bush knows all of this, and has the courage to do what is right in spite of the political consequences.
Side Note #1: The Howard Dean/Nancy Pelosi Democrats and their allies in the MSM and academia are certain to go even more berserk. I'm not sure we have the national unity we will need to overcome their intense hysteria. But if Iran responds with an attack on the U.S. with WMD's, the nation may come together in spite of the Democrats' screams that it's all Bush's fault.
Side Note #2: A major Muslim feast associated with the end of the Hajj is next week. The annual Hajj pilgrimage climaxes on Monday with the Eid al-Adha, a four-day feast. At least 2.5 million pilgrims are expected to be in Mecca.
An attack on Iran while millions of Muslims are on pilgrimage in Saudia Arabia could easily result in such unstable conditions in Saudia Arabia that the kingdom would fall. Hence I do not expect to see anything until the annual pilgrimage is over and the crowds have left Saudi Arabia.
Yes, the more I ruminate on it, the worse it looks- Israel is a very tough nut to crack- I've seen reports that their rumored 200 nuclear warheads are more like 400 in number, and those subs they bought a few years ago may be doomsday devices.
The Saudis, OTOH, are the very definition of corruption and decadence.
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I'm gonna re-read the Revs tonight, my grandmother mentioned it references a 'young lion' that I'd never snapped to. The young lion being us. The US.
Grandma loves you, but she's not accurate about the term.
THe saudis have a rental agreement with Pakistan.
Your post implies that the West will allow itself to be economically destroyed, by who knows what imaginary weapons, and not act, but rather sit quietly and allow Iran to corner the world oil market? Nice fantasy but the idea of the west quietly dying while watching Iran "build nuclear power plants" is quite autistic. Maybe you should polish your inside-the-box thinking skills before venturing "outside the box."
Puzzling to me, as well: I'll try to figure out what she means.
Sorry Bosco, txflake's Grandma was correct: Ezekiel 38:13..
"Sheba and ..... and the merchants of Tarshish, with all its young lions, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil?...."
To understand the context, have to start at the beginning (38:1) which deals with the Gog/Magog (Russia) alliance with Persia (Iran). Ezekiel 39 continues the prophecy re: what happens when the war against Israel occurs.
Exciting times!
If it's one thing that I have heard over and over again (numerous sermons, books read, etc.) it's that America as far as we can tell is not an identifiable major player in what occurs in Israel and the Great Tribulation. A single obscure reference doesn't cut it. Tarshish is modern-day Spain, FYI.
I'd be more concerned about Russia/Iran - that's the emphasis of the prophecy.
From what I have studied and read, the USA isn't mentioned much in End Times for a couple logical reasons - either we exist but are uninvolved or we do not exist and are uninvolved.
Exciting? I'm already dreading the (^%%$$ out of '06 and am ready to go back to '05, terrible as it was.
Rutles point was that Saudi Arabia is MUCH MUCH weaker than Israel, and right next door to Iran. That makes it a much easier target to take out than Israel would be.
A fringe benefit to Iran would be that the Saudis are a different flavor of Muslim than the Iranians, and a different race as well (Persian vs. Arab). They have a long-standing dislike for each other.
The United States does not have a significant military presence in Saudi Arabia either. We would have to come to the Saudi's aid from Iraq. The House of Saud is corrupt and widely disliked in Saudi Arabia, so we might have to deal with a very uncertain Saudi political situation at the same time.
We would have to keep the oil flowing while we fought, which would be difficult to do. Oil wells and pipelines are easy to take out, and take time to repair.
Supplies to our forces would have to come through slow and potentially unreliable overland routes through Turkey and/or Jordan, or through the Straits of Hormuz. Iran can close the Straits of Hurmuz easily.
An advantage to us is that Iran would have to cross a modestly large body of water to get to Saudi Arabia, or come through the Southern tip of Iraq and then into Kuwait. The major land fighting would be in this area.
The need to cross a body of water, or face our ground forces in southern Iraq, could be the major deterent to this scenario.
I had not considered it until Rutles pointed it out, but an Iranian attack on Saudi Arabia is not far fetched at all. Especially if the Iranians think they can cross the water or hold us at bay in Southern Iraq.
The stated purpose of the meeting was to discuss Iraq. However, the public does not know what was actually discussed.
There was very little reason for an unprecedented meeting like this to take place NOW if the primary purpose of the meeting was to discuss Iraq. Which raises the question: What was the REAL purpose of the meeting. It is clear to everyone who is following the situation that something must be done about Iran. We do not know for sure, but it is easy to add 1+1 and get 2.
What I can't grasp is that if the anti-mullah Iran people and its 'revolutionary' student population are so pro-western, why the h*ell did they elect this freakjob?
Only answer I can come up with is they knew he'd speed up the decapitation of the madrasses. Smart electorate, if so.
Good thought, too.
Bump.
Haven't had time for a nap, needing it bad.
My post (if you read it) states that if the west were looking down into an economic black hole, a nuclear attack on Tehran might be the only solution under those circumstances. I don't believe we'd roll over, but we can't conventionally stop Iran from taking Saudi Arabia if it wants once it has nuclear arms. With conventional arms, no way. As a nuclear power? That's why it's so critical to stop Iran now.
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