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NSA fires whistleblower (flashback: Tice diagnosed psychotic paranoid)
Pulse-Journal ^ | May 05, 2005 | REBECCA CARR

Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican

WASHINGTON—The National Security Agency fired a high level intelligence official just days after he publicly urged Congress to pass stronger protections for federal whistleblowers facing retaliation.

Russ Tice, 43, who was once nominated for an award by the agency for his intelligence work on Iraq, was informed Tuesday that his security clearances had been permanently revoked and that he could no longer work at the secretive intelligence agency known for its eavesdropping and code-breaking capabilities.

Tice has been at the odds with the agency since he reported suspicions that a female co-worker at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), was a spy for the People's Republic of China.

Tice, a 20-year veteran of the federal intelligence agencies, worked at DIA until 2002. He made his initial report about the suspected spy at DIA after noticing that a co-worker voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means.

Last week, Tice joined other federal employees from national security agencies on Capitol Hill to raise concerns that whistleblowers are being punished for stepping forward. The whistleblowers pointed out that the 1989 Whistleblower Protection Act does not cover federal employees who work in the nation's intelligence community.

" In a time of danger, literally brought to our very shores, abuses such as these, should not be tolerated," said Tice, speaking at a press conference following a meeting with congressional staffers.

Is there a connection between his public speech last week and his termination?

Sibel Edmonds, the leader of the newly formed National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, believes so.

"They try to use the fear factor: Don't go to the Congress. If you do, this is what will happen to you," said Edmonds, who was fired by the FBI in 2002 after reporting suspected espionage and misconduct. "By doing this they send a chilling message to anyone who wants to step forward."

Edmonds vowed to help find legal representation for Tice. The Defense Department's Inspector General's Civil Reprisal Investigations unit is also examining his claims of retaliation.

In June, 2003, the agency suspended his security clearances and ordered him to maintain the agency's vehicles by pumping gas and cleaning them. Last month, they ordered him to unload furniture at its warehouses.

Tice's firing raises concerns for all federal whistleblowers, said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project On Government Oversight, a nonpartisan watchdog group based in Washington. "To receive this type of humiliation is a terrible message to anyone else who is handling the very important work that they do."

In response to requests for comment, the NSA sent an e-mail stating that the "NSA has no information to provide about personnel matters and does not comment on actual or alleged case facts regarding current or former affiliates."

In an interview, Tice said his statements last week, "hastened the process," but he had expected it for some time.

In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.

"At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the person at DIA handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote in a document submitted to the Inspector General. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring.

Shortly after sending the e-mail, an NSA security officer ordered him to report for "a psychological evaluation" even though he had just gone through one nine months earlier. Tice believes James called NSA to ask them "to go after him" on their behalf.

When Tice called Mr. James to confront him about calling the NSA security official, he told Tice that "there was reason to be concerned" about his suspicion about his former co-worker.

The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia, according to Tice. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice wrote in a statement to the inspector general.

"I knew my from that day that my career was over," said Tice, who has worked in intelligence since he graduated from the University of Maryland in 1985. His job at NSA was so top secret that he could not even reveal his title.

In the summer of 2003, Tice told the NSA that he was considering talking to his congressional representatives about waste and abuse at NSA security. He was told that he would face retaliation if he did so, Tice wrote in his statement to the inspector general.

A few weeks after contacting Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., the retaliation intensified, he said. The NSA even sent an agent to his home to "threaten me in person with unspecified actions if I went to the press," Tice said.

In August 2004, the agency suspended Tice's clearance. They sent him to the "motor pool' for eight months where he was assigned to fill up NSA vehicles with gas, check fluids and drive around "the bigwigs," on occasion, Tice said in an interview.

He was then put on administrative leave for 14 months. Last month he was re-assigned to the NSA's warehouse where he was ordered to unload furniture from trucks.

"I reported my suspicion and got blown off," Tice said. "I pushed the issue and that ticked them off, the fact that I questioned their almighty wisdom."

On the Web:

Project on Government Oversight: www.pogo.org


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
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To: Mo1

"This guy reminds me of Collen Rowley"

Not hardly. She couldn't even form a complete sentence -- a real dingbat. I would have to listen to Tice under oath before I could judge he did anything wrong. He claims that he didn't give up any classified information. That's what he claimed. That has to be further investigated to find the truth.


121 posted on 01/12/2006 8:55:31 PM PST by RichardW
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To: Dolphy

Left a smile on my face.

Isn't it amazing how ignorant Matthews is?


122 posted on 01/12/2006 8:55:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: RichardW

He doesn't have any to give.


123 posted on 01/12/2006 8:56:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: RichardW

The guy is a lose cannon with a screw lose and he can't keep his story straight

If the Dems want a public hearing with him as a witness .. Bring it on


124 posted on 01/12/2006 8:59:10 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Howlin
Isn't is amazing how ignorant Mathews is?"

Exactly what I was thinking after watching Ed Meese tell him what he should already have known but did not.

125 posted on 01/12/2006 8:59:14 PM PST by Carolinamom (New member of Sam's Club)
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To: RichardW

Isn't Tice more like Cindy Sheehan?

She didn't know what she was talking about and he seems to be in the same small canoe.


126 posted on 01/12/2006 8:59:26 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Howlin
I'm certainly not about to watch Harold Ford spew for a 2nd time tonight.

I'm off to watch last night's episode of According to Jim stored on my HDDVR.

127 posted on 01/12/2006 9:00:32 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

i'm going too........used my hand way too much today....it looks like a Macy's balloon.


128 posted on 01/12/2006 9:02:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Isn't it amazing how ignorant Matthews is?

I was just thinking that, he is without common sense and/or intellectual honesty. That's a horrible combination and leaves him well short of the media figure he seems to think he is.

And another thing, what in the world would make Tucker Carlson think Hagel is going to get the Republican nod? All I can come up with is that he's looking for a spot on his campaign team.

129 posted on 01/12/2006 9:02:47 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Carolinamom

oh, it's not just me then?

it's amazing...how little he knew.


130 posted on 01/12/2006 9:03:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

That was good, thanks. Watching Brit for a few minutes now


131 posted on 01/12/2006 9:06:39 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
I was aghast that Tucker Carlson said it was "this silly bipartisanship" that prevented Alito from commenting on cases that might come before the court.

Does HE not know that should Alito have done so, he would have to recuse himself when such cases came before the court?

Besides, I can't stand Carlson's glib voice OR his bow ties.

132 posted on 01/12/2006 9:10:11 PM PST by Carolinamom (New member of Sam's Club)
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To: Dolphy

I constantly wonder how WE can know more than they know.....honest.

hagel isn't even on the radar.


133 posted on 01/12/2006 9:10:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Carolinamom

it's amazing.


134 posted on 01/12/2006 9:11:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Carolinamom

Tucker Carlson is a phony.


135 posted on 01/12/2006 9:12:16 PM PST by Palladin (Senator Biden is a Moron with a capital "M".)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

bump


136 posted on 01/12/2006 9:12:33 PM PST by GOPJ (A. Cub reporters acting as stenographers for a manipulative top FBI agent? Q. What is Watergate?)
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To: Mo1

>>>He's suppose to meet with members of the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow<<<

Oh, good. I hope they lock him in a room alone with Joe Biden for two hours.

(Theme from the shower scene in the movie "Psycho" playing)


137 posted on 01/12/2006 9:15:47 PM PST by Palladin (Senator Biden is a Moron with a capital "M".)
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To: Mo1

This guy will be ripped to shreds by a congressional investigation...


138 posted on 01/12/2006 9:29:19 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Howlin

Because he's not the real leaker.


139 posted on 01/12/2006 9:34:08 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mo1

Chris ignores or bullies everyone he doesn't want to listen to -- like Michelle Malkin and Zell Miller.


140 posted on 01/12/2006 9:35:18 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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