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NSA fires whistleblower (flashback: Tice diagnosed psychotic paranoid)
Pulse-Journal ^ | May 05, 2005 | REBECCA CARR

Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican

WASHINGTON—The National Security Agency fired a high level intelligence official just days after he publicly urged Congress to pass stronger protections for federal whistleblowers facing retaliation.

Russ Tice, 43, who was once nominated for an award by the agency for his intelligence work on Iraq, was informed Tuesday that his security clearances had been permanently revoked and that he could no longer work at the secretive intelligence agency known for its eavesdropping and code-breaking capabilities.

Tice has been at the odds with the agency since he reported suspicions that a female co-worker at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), was a spy for the People's Republic of China.

Tice, a 20-year veteran of the federal intelligence agencies, worked at DIA until 2002. He made his initial report about the suspected spy at DIA after noticing that a co-worker voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means.

Last week, Tice joined other federal employees from national security agencies on Capitol Hill to raise concerns that whistleblowers are being punished for stepping forward. The whistleblowers pointed out that the 1989 Whistleblower Protection Act does not cover federal employees who work in the nation's intelligence community.

" In a time of danger, literally brought to our very shores, abuses such as these, should not be tolerated," said Tice, speaking at a press conference following a meeting with congressional staffers.

Is there a connection between his public speech last week and his termination?

Sibel Edmonds, the leader of the newly formed National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, believes so.

"They try to use the fear factor: Don't go to the Congress. If you do, this is what will happen to you," said Edmonds, who was fired by the FBI in 2002 after reporting suspected espionage and misconduct. "By doing this they send a chilling message to anyone who wants to step forward."

Edmonds vowed to help find legal representation for Tice. The Defense Department's Inspector General's Civil Reprisal Investigations unit is also examining his claims of retaliation.

In June, 2003, the agency suspended his security clearances and ordered him to maintain the agency's vehicles by pumping gas and cleaning them. Last month, they ordered him to unload furniture at its warehouses.

Tice's firing raises concerns for all federal whistleblowers, said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project On Government Oversight, a nonpartisan watchdog group based in Washington. "To receive this type of humiliation is a terrible message to anyone else who is handling the very important work that they do."

In response to requests for comment, the NSA sent an e-mail stating that the "NSA has no information to provide about personnel matters and does not comment on actual or alleged case facts regarding current or former affiliates."

In an interview, Tice said his statements last week, "hastened the process," but he had expected it for some time.

In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.

"At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the person at DIA handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote in a document submitted to the Inspector General. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring.

Shortly after sending the e-mail, an NSA security officer ordered him to report for "a psychological evaluation" even though he had just gone through one nine months earlier. Tice believes James called NSA to ask them "to go after him" on their behalf.

When Tice called Mr. James to confront him about calling the NSA security official, he told Tice that "there was reason to be concerned" about his suspicion about his former co-worker.

The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia, according to Tice. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice wrote in a statement to the inspector general.

"I knew my from that day that my career was over," said Tice, who has worked in intelligence since he graduated from the University of Maryland in 1985. His job at NSA was so top secret that he could not even reveal his title.

In the summer of 2003, Tice told the NSA that he was considering talking to his congressional representatives about waste and abuse at NSA security. He was told that he would face retaliation if he did so, Tice wrote in his statement to the inspector general.

A few weeks after contacting Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., the retaliation intensified, he said. The NSA even sent an agent to his home to "threaten me in person with unspecified actions if I went to the press," Tice said.

In August 2004, the agency suspended Tice's clearance. They sent him to the "motor pool' for eight months where he was assigned to fill up NSA vehicles with gas, check fluids and drive around "the bigwigs," on occasion, Tice said in an interview.

He was then put on administrative leave for 14 months. Last month he was re-assigned to the NSA's warehouse where he was ordered to unload furniture from trucks.

"I reported my suspicion and got blown off," Tice said. "I pushed the issue and that ticked them off, the fact that I questioned their almighty wisdom."

On the Web:

Project on Government Oversight: www.pogo.org


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: delusional; fired; icanttellyouwhy; itsclassifiedinfo; jamesbondcomplex; loon; moonbat; neurotic; nsa; nsaleak; nsawhistleblower; paranoid; patriotleak; persecutioncomplex; psycho; russelltice; russtice; schizoid; tice; ticeintheattic; whistleblower
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To: hole_n_one

Listen to Tice; he's not really "telling" anything; he's not even saying HE talked to the NYT.

And listen for his quote about going to the Judiciary Committee tomorrow.

This guy has major issues.


81 posted on 01/12/2006 8:26:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Did I miss it??

BTW .. what happen to Tucker's show?? .. I thought it was on at this time


82 posted on 01/12/2006 8:27:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: RichardW

He's a sociopath; he's not divulging anything really.


83 posted on 01/12/2006 8:27:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1

me, too.


84 posted on 01/12/2006 8:28:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He's too general with his answers

Was he fired before or after he leaked??


85 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:22 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: hole_n_one

I heard it!

And he's implying that they ARE listening to American citizens, a fact he has NO way of knowing, since he wasn't in that area.


86 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1

He was "moved" from sensitive positions; and when he kept it up, he was fired.


87 posted on 01/12/2006 8:32:13 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He can't get into it because it is classified information

This coming from a man who leaked classified information

This guy is full of it


88 posted on 01/12/2006 8:33:09 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

Did you hear him say 'well, you'd be breaking the law?'

he doesn't even know the law.

Do NOT miss Ed Meese.


89 posted on 01/12/2006 8:33:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Yea I heard it ... this guy is a loser


90 posted on 01/12/2006 8:34:41 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Howlin
What a turnabout of events. Matthews says he would spy if he could catch terrorists in the United States and Tice doesn't really know what they are doing but agrees they couldn't get a warrant given they way they are identifying calls.
91 posted on 01/12/2006 8:35:01 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: RichardW

tices only complaint is it didnt go thru the fisa court. he is nothing. he knows nothing. he doesnt even know if we are or are not spying on no terrorist related citizens. he said he cant say - to matthews - but what he should have said is he doesnt know, but then that would end his tv career. the guy is ignorant. they were right to fire him and i hope he winds up in jail. he is supposed to notify the nsa of exactly what he will tell congress and if he doesnt he is a hypocrite.


92 posted on 01/12/2006 8:36:09 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin

This guy reminds me of Collen Rowley


93 posted on 01/12/2006 8:36:38 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

or Scott Ritter.

and he belongs to that group. Surprised?


94 posted on 01/12/2006 8:37:16 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Bush isnt even in NSA and yet he spelled it out a few weeks ago to the White House press corps exactly why fisa was not required. Did tice sleep thru it?


95 posted on 01/12/2006 8:37:48 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Dolphy

now Ed Meese will mop the floor with Matthews.


96 posted on 01/12/2006 8:38:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

He has the real facts, ya know?


97 posted on 01/12/2006 8:38:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He considers himself a source not a leak and it's not classified

He can't keep his story straight


98 posted on 01/12/2006 8:39:18 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

how can he consider himself a source reporting a crime? he already just said he isnt sure if we are spying on americans. he isnt a whistleblower; he's a liar!


99 posted on 01/12/2006 8:39:28 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
Matthews compared the response of the Bush Admin to Tice's allegations to that of Russia and their putting of dissenters in a Russian gulag and Tice leaped out of his seat to agree.

Like I've said so many times before......

Hardball is the funniest show on TV since Seinfeld.

100 posted on 01/12/2006 8:40:29 PM PST by hole_n_one
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