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52% of Americans: Impeach Bush on wiretaps (Zogby)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 16 January 2006

Posted on 01/15/2006 9:42:01 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

A new Zogby poll indicates a majority of Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge's approval.

Respondents were asked if they agreed or disagreed with the following statement:

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

The poll found that 52 percent agreed, 43 percent disagreed and 6 percent said they didn't know or declined to answer.

"The American people are not buying Bush's outrageous claim that he has the power to wiretap American citizens without a warrant," said Bob Fertik, co-founder of the left-leaning group AfterDowningStreet.org which commissioned the survey. "Americans believe terrorism can be fought without turning our own government into Big Brother."

The poll interviewed 1,216 adults in the U.S. from Jan 9-12, and has a 2.9 percent margin of error.

As one might expect, the respondents' political affiliation played a role in their answer, as 66 percent of Democrats favored impeachment, as did 59 percent of Independents, but only 23 percent of Republicans.

One month ago, one-third of Americans polled by Rasmuseen Reports said they believe Bush should be impeached.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: georgewbush; itstheborderstupid; muslimpollster; nationalsecurity; patriotleak; polls; sillydems; spying; terrorism; wiretaps; zogby; zogbysspecialsauce
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A dodgy poll or has America gone loopy?
1 posted on 01/15/2006 9:42:04 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yeah, right.


2 posted on 01/15/2006 9:43:47 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Another case of a Zogby poll spiced up with his secret sauce.


3 posted on 01/15/2006 9:44:03 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Rasmussen is credible (sort of). Zogby is insane.

But THIS is what will make the front page in the MSM.

Lies always get full play with the leftist garbage slingers.

4 posted on 01/15/2006 9:44:59 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

"As one might expect, the respondents' political affiliation played a role in their answer..." Yeah, I might expect that. I've been on Zogby's list to poll for over a year, and I consistently tell of my support for the President. Strange they didn't ask me about this.


5 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:06 PM PST by Humal
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To: Aussie Dasher

Zogby has NO credibility.


6 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:15 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Aussie Dasher
A dodgy poll

Pollsters know who to poll. I've never gotten a call.

Many, many Americans are idiots, and have no idea what the laws are. They just parrot the sound bites from the media, then go have a beer.

7 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:28 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Zogby hasn't just jumped the shark, the shark has jumped him.

This is complete trash.

8 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:41 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Aussie Dasher

A total crock.


9 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:55 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Hmm. How many Democrats were polled, compared to Republicans and so-called "undecideds"?


10 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:57 PM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Look who commissioned the poll .. I guess Zogby wanted to get paid.


11 posted on 01/15/2006 9:47:29 PM PST by NonValueAdded (What ever happened to "Politics stops at the water's edge?")
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To: quidnunc

Secret sauce = 45% dems, 20% indies, 35% pubbies

Add enough to any "poll" and you can get anything you want.

Didn't we just see a poll last week that said 64% supported the wiretaps? Bet Zogby didn't do that one.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 9:47:42 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Are we up to 99% agreement yet that Zogby would sell his sister, daughter, wife and grandmother if there's a buck to be made providing bogus polling information to willing Democratic media shills?


13 posted on 01/15/2006 9:47:58 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: Aussie Dasher

67% of Americans approve of the wiretaps, but 52% of the people Zogby polled want to impeach over them?


14 posted on 01/15/2006 9:48:38 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: Aussie Dasher
1216 members of DU were polled.
15 posted on 01/15/2006 9:48:39 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Happy New Year FReepers.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
There is only ONE reason for this bogus poll, which is to give the MSM something more to talk about. This story was DYING. Credible polling suggests that the public is more concerned about their own security than the spying story.

Now, out of the goddamned blue, this "poll" appears. This makes me spitting mad, because it only undermines those working to keep this nation safe.

16 posted on 01/15/2006 9:48:54 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ha! Didn't another poll say 60%+ of Americans supported the spying? Pfft!


17 posted on 01/15/2006 9:49:06 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Americans, distracted by INTENTIONALLY misleading talking heads on TV
and radio, filling out tax forms, dealing with Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years, and paying for our growing nanny-state...
were just distracted enough to check the wrong box.

I'm sure Zogby thought long and hard and realized the polling question had
to be a stark "Yes" or "No" that would have been revealed as a "push poll"
upon presentation of further opinion and consideration that DEMOCRATIC
leaders went along with the program since it's inception.

Except for their little RAT-B@STARD, plausible-deniability, "I had reservations
from the start" letters they put in safes for a future release date.
(This was the case with Senator Rockefeller)


18 posted on 01/15/2006 9:49:18 PM PST by VOA
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To: Aussie Dasher
Look at the question;

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

It's out of context. I think they should ask:

If after a terrorist attack it was discovered that President Bush did nothing to intercept calls made by terrorists to American citizens that triggered the attack, should he be held accountable through impeachment.

19 posted on 01/15/2006 9:49:56 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Aussie Dasher

At this point , I'd trust a Zogby poll as far as I can toss a Qu'ran.


20 posted on 01/15/2006 9:50:24 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: MikeHu
"Are we up to 99% agreement yet that Zogby would sell his sister, daughter, wife and grandmother if there's a buck to be made providing bogus polling information to willing Democratic media shills?"

If they're stopid enough to buy them, why should we care?

Come November they'll see how worthless they are.
21 posted on 01/15/2006 9:50:38 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The poll interviewed 1,216 adults in the U.S. from Jan 9-12, and has a 2.9 percent margin of error.

US population 300 million.

1,216 = .000004% of the population. These polls claiming to represent the opinion of the American public do not survey enough people for the poll to be taken seriously. A minimum of 10%(30,000,000) would be needed for that purpose.

22 posted on 01/15/2006 9:50:56 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: Aussie Dasher

Zogby is using his "SPECIAL SAUCE" on yet another poll. This is codswallop!


23 posted on 01/15/2006 9:51:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Aussie Dasher

Zogby..Yawn


24 posted on 01/15/2006 9:51:28 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: teenyelliott
Pollsters know who to poll. I've never gotten a call.

You are lucky.
And...if you ever do, hang up.
I accepted my first and last when it turned into a five-minute
gauntlet of questions that seemed to last a day.

I think it must have been by the LA Times when they were scrambling to
keep the San Fernando Valley from breaking away from the rest of LA.
25 posted on 01/15/2006 9:52:10 PM PST by VOA
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To: Aussie Dasher

Zogby cooks another poll.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 9:52:28 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

I would say impeach. However, the question at hand is

"If President Bush wiretapped suspected al queda international communications with American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

Here I would say do not impeach.

Zogby asked a rigged question.


27 posted on 01/15/2006 9:52:33 PM PST by staytrue (Annoy the Media. Vote Republican.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."
 
Those 2 words are the secret to this poll.  Congress "should consider" is such an intangable that of course the libs bought it.
 
Congress "should consider" the activities of the New York Times.
 
Congress "should consider" if Ted Kennedy is working drunk every day.
 
Congress "should consider" if MSM is impartial.
 
ETC........Bob

28 posted on 01/15/2006 9:52:52 PM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

No one should ever take Zogby seriously again after his ridiculous polls on Election Day. He's a farce.


29 posted on 01/15/2006 9:54:54 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Greatness is not appreciated until it is gone)
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To: Aussie Dasher
left-leaning group AfterDowningStreet.org which commissioned the survey.

These are the only 7 words in the entire worthless article you need to read.

30 posted on 01/15/2006 9:55:31 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

I suspect most FReepers would agree.

Of course, if the question were:
"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens communicating with terrorists outside of the US, without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

We already know the US public would disagree.

This just means the Rats and MSM are right on the money to keep misinforming the public by portraying this as domestic wiretapping instead of wiretapping our enemy's communications.

31 posted on 01/15/2006 9:56:28 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: decal

What do we say about impeaching the news propagandists?

-- or ride them out on the rails like the good ol' days!


32 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:19 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: Aussie Dasher
""If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

"If President Bush assaulted, robbed and mutilated eight widows and orphans, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment." 99.4% of respondents polled said yes.

MSM headline the next day: "99.4% of Americans favor impeaching Bush."

33 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:31 PM PST by NJRighty (Liberals interpreting the Constitution? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
...only 23 percent of Republicans.

That's a lot of sauce.

34 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:54 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's a Zogby poll.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!


35 posted on 01/15/2006 9:58:26 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Aussie Dasher
Let me guess the full text of Zogby's actual question:

"Given that many legal experts are stating unequivocally that Pres. Bush knowingly broke the law in authorizing these wiretaps, do you think Congress should consider impeaching him?"

36 posted on 01/15/2006 10:01:01 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Secret sauce = 45% dems, 20% indies, 35% pubbies

It must be worse than that; even that would still only put 49.5% in favor of impeachment. Given the breakdown by party, it would have to be more like 45% dem, 28% indy, and 27% pub to get the 52% number.

37 posted on 01/15/2006 10:01:41 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: Pukin Dog

The whole this is garbage...but, will probably be on the front page of the NYTimes..and WaPo...

I wish they would have had a 2nd question: If we were attacked again..and thousands of Americans, including children were killed...and the President could have prevented it...if he had the power to monitor calls from al-queda..but he DIDN'T, should he be blamed??


38 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:17 PM PST by Txsleuth (Thank you to all that donated on the Freepathon...next time more monthlies!!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Actually no one should Zogby (both Jim and John) over their connection to Arab American Institute (AAI)
39 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:18 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: staytrue
What do you expect from a Zogby poll??

Junk science in. Junk science out!!


No one has ever claimed that Zogby was fair and balanced.
40 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:21 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Aussie Dasher
The proper question would be:

"If President Bush ordered the wiretappeding of American citizens without the approval of a judge, if one is required by statute or by the Constitution, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment?"

Most people do not understand Article II or the War Powers inherent in the office of the Presidency. If the President were to go to Congress every time he wanted to act in the pursuit of the war on terror it might be rightly deduced that he does not believe he has any Constitutional authority. If the Congress specifies in the procedures to be followed by the FISA Court process requirements for warrant authority for wiretaps in instances other than in war - it cannot encroach on the President's war powers authorized by the Constitution. There is a real interesting issue here but I'd be willing to be 90% of the people responding to this question do not understand or appreciate it. Thus the poll is worth half a bucket of warm spit.

 

41 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:37 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: NJRighty

Illustrating absurdity with absurdity...very nicely done.:)


42 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:55 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: TheDon
"If President Clinton lied about screwing his intern before a grand jury, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

43 posted on 01/15/2006 10:03:18 PM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: SALChamps03

Actually, statistically, about 1,000 people is enough if a truly random sample is used. But if the sample is manipulated, you could make the poll say whatever you wanted.


44 posted on 01/15/2006 10:03:20 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: Pukin Dog

They HAD to get something negative about Bush to talk about...remember the Alito hearings went VERY BAD for the dems...must deflect attention...


45 posted on 01/15/2006 10:03:47 PM PST by Txsleuth (Thank you to all that donated on the Freepathon...next time more monthlies!!)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken; All

It should be obvious to all that Zogby's sympathies lie with the Pan-Arabist, anti-American troublemakers of the world. His creative polling should carry no weight.


46 posted on 01/15/2006 10:03:53 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Aussie Dasher

Lead sentence...

"Zogby, a democratic pollster, who is Lebanese and has been adamently against Bush's Middle East policy, has conducted a new biased poll...."

Not even on Fox!


47 posted on 01/15/2006 10:04:06 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: teenyelliott
Pollsters know who to poll. I've never gotten a call.

At the very beginning of the Iraq War I got a call from ABCNEWS/WAPO poll. "How many deaths are too many" was the question. Biased obviously, what a surprise.

48 posted on 01/15/2006 10:04:39 PM PST by pbear8 (Please tell Ted to shut up.)
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To: Dolphy

LOL...great minds think alike!


49 posted on 01/15/2006 10:04:44 PM PST by Txsleuth (Thank you to all that donated on the Freepathon...next time more monthlies!!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Zogby's Arab blood has gone to his head.


50 posted on 01/15/2006 10:05:14 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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