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To: WKB

Can't argue with the Bible.. it's a different thing if you can't have children, can't afford them because it's early on in the marriage or if one or both parties realize they are big huge screwups and shouldn't ever have children.


7 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:26 PM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Awestruck

People that dont have kids end up being the ones that yell at a kid and take his/her football away if it rolls into their yard.

Older couples without kids have always seemed bitter to me.


14 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:07 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (We have a mission from beyond the stars to spread freedom.)
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To: Awestruck

"can't afford them"

by whose budgetary definitions?

God gave me 5 children and I've never looked back - never once considered whether I could afford them.

I don't have a $500,000 home or brand-new cars and nobody starves.

"afford" can be defined all over the place. Today, so many material needs trump the spiritual ones.


50 posted on 01/17/2006 1:47:44 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Awestruck
it's a different thing if you can't have children, can't afford them because it's early on in the marriage or if one or both parties realize they are big huge screwups and shouldn't ever have children.

How about if both parties feel called to other areas of service and can't devote the time to that and to children? It's arrogant to assume that God wants the same thing of everyone, and even more arrogant to assume that a couple is somehow deficient because they've chosen not to have children. I could just as easily say that people who have children are making up for some huge hole in their lives that they can only fill by creating needy little eating machines that will take up all of their time and force them into a purpose.

I could say that, but I won't, because I am just caring and loving enough to understand that everyone has a different focus, purpose, and mission.

65 posted on 01/17/2006 1:51:39 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Awestruck

That young couple in Arkansas who have sixteen kids show what can be done on $60,000 a year. The reason why more couples don't have five or six kids as less to do with being able to "afford" then than in the way their lives are organized.


84 posted on 01/17/2006 1:56:46 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Awestruck

There ARE intelligent reason for not having children: hereditary diseases, etc. But just to have more money to spend is just plain selfishness....

If we don't reproduce the BEST of our society who will populate the earth?


149 posted on 01/17/2006 2:20:34 PM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: Awestruck
both parties realize they are big huge screwups and shouldn't ever have children.

You got that part right>

I've seen to many people have kids for the sake of having kids (or to get welfare checks) and then treat their children like garbage or crap and abuse them.

If your not capable of loving a child and raising them properly, then your also not worthy of having a child and shouldn't have one.

176 posted on 01/17/2006 2:36:45 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Awestruck

Yeah, I'd generally agree with that.

We've caught flack because we aren't even considering kids yet. We've been married less than a year, and I work full time while Mr. Rubber Duckie is finishing college. Then once he's done with school this spring, he has to find a job and start to establish a career. We're trying to buy our first home soon, and on my income only. Now is just not the time for kids.

That said, we'd like 3 or 4, hoping to start trying sometime next year. Children are a blessing for those who want the challenge of parenthood.


224 posted on 01/17/2006 3:01:47 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Awestruck
Can't argue with the Bible..

Nope. Which of course doesn't mean this guy is the interpreter either.

it's a different thing if you can't have children, can't afford them because it's early on in the marriage or if one or both parties realize they are big huge screwups and shouldn't ever have children.

I suppose it says that in the bible as well? I haven't run across that part, please direct me to the proper place.

312 posted on 01/17/2006 3:58:40 PM PST by Protagoras (If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event, FR would be the training facility.)
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To: Awestruck

Or if the woman you're supposed to marry decides all of a sudden she feels the need to try and get back with her ex. The same ex who abandoned her when she refused to get an abortion for the pregnancy he caused, never paid a dime to her to help care for his child, then became and alcoholic. Of course, when said unstable and heartless woman forgives that, spends a grand total of 12 days with him, all while professing her continuing love for someone else (read: me) then after those 12 days, marries him, thereby stomping a mudhole in my heart, maybe, just maybe children aren't such a good idea.

Yes, I am bitter, and yes, I know I should consider myself lucky that it happened now as opposed to later, but it's just not that easy. Not when everything you've been looking for for 30 years is found in this woman, who then proceeds to do the above. My year has sucked thus far.

Been bottling this up for days now.

[/end rant]


532 posted on 01/18/2006 6:03:19 AM PST by Romish_Papist (iuxta est Dominus contritis corde et confractos spiritu salvabit.)
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