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ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY (THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT)
Hardball | 01.25.06 | Chris Matthews, Anne Kornblut, Dana Milbank, Mia T

Posted on 01/26/2006 4:28:02 AM PST by Mia T

ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY
THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT

by Chris Matthews, Anne Kornblut + Dana Milbank

(with annotations by Mia T), 01.26.06



EXCERPT:

This is HARDBALL on MSNBC.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[NOTE: My comments in blue.]

MATTHEWS:  We're back with Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times" and Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post."  Let's talk about Gotham's candidates for president.

First, Rudolph Giuliani, the pro-choice, pro-gay rights, former mayor spent today, or the day in Orlando speaking to a conference of Evangelicals. 

Dana, he's up to it, isn't he?  This is below the radar.  This is Rudy campaigning for president in the south. 

MILBANK:  This is about as convincing as Jerry Falwell at the gay pride parade. 

MATTHEWS:  You don't buy this? 

MILBANK:  Well, he can try to do it.  But, look, he faces an awful uphill battle in winning over the typical Republican voter in a primary.  Now, if the election was fought on national security, he is fine.  But he's never going to convince them that he is one of them, that he is a religious conservative. 

KORNBLUT:  Right and not only that, but he's going to be in a death struggle with John McCain for the exact same constituency. 

MATTHEWS:  Let me tell you something.  I'll say it here a thousand time.  Watch Rudolph Giuliani.  Watch him.  Security is the issue in this country.  Whoever is the next president is going to be seen as more on the ball than even this president on security and terrorism.  This country is not going sort on terrorism.  We are going to get smarter on it is my hunch.

And Rudy is the guy to do it.  And he can be an SOB in many ways.  But this country may really want an SOB, a really tough cop as the next president.  So watch Rudy, I'm saying it.

Now here is Hillary Clinton, that other New Yorker in the subway series.  A new Gallup poll just came out.  "USA TODAY" Gallup poll, it shows that 16 percent say that they'll definitely vote for Hillary right now, 32 percent say they might vote for her. 

But here's the dagger in the back.  Fifty-one percent say they would definitely not vote for Hillary Clinton already the campaign hasn't begun. 

KORNBLUT:  I mean, this is exactly what Democrats are worried about is that already people have made up their minds.  I would argue, I guess, that it is awfully early.  We all know how early it is to be talking about this. 

MATTHEWS:  Definitely. 

KORNBLUT:  Definitely?  What does definitely mean?  [Definitely means DEFINITELY.] You know, you would have to see how is the question exactly phrased, all that stuff.  It is early. [Actually Anne, it is late. In fact, it is too late. The country knows exactly who this woman is, Anne.]

MATTHEWS:  But there's lot of tooth behind that.  If somebody tells a pollster, I've already made up my mind definitely. 

KORNBLUT:  And, look, I know more Democrats who believe this though than Republicans.  A lot of Republicans say that this is a deceptive number, that once she gets out there with all of her money running against who, Giuliani or McCain, the numbers may not be that weak.  [She has 100% name recognition, Anne. You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Even when the sow isn't hillary.]

MATTHEWS:  How much of that is don't throw me in that briar patch, Dana?  We're so afraid of Hillary.  Please don't run her against us.  She'll kill us. 

MILBANK:  Anne is right that these polls are completely useless because you don't know what the alternative is.  But the fact is that she...  [Earth to Dana: 51% would vote for their mother-in-law before they would vote for HER.]

MATTHEWS:  OK.  McCain against Hillary.  Who wins? 

 

MILBANK:  Well, that's fine.  If you can tell me that's how it is going to turn out.  But we don't know. 

MATTHEWS:  Well, let me ask you about these definite numbers in a poll.  Do you believe the definite?  Do you believe somebody right in 2006 knows how they are going to vote in 2008?

MILBANK:  I think they definitely think that's what they are going to do right now, but they have no idea what they are going to be doing in a couple years.  And Hillary is going to have the opposite problem of Rudy.  And that is she's absolutely fine with her base if she decides to run.  But she is seemingly incapable of crossing over. 

MATTHEWS:  The poll was taken over the week right through Sunday, the Gallup poll.  And the Gallup poll is, of course, the most prestigious poll there is right now and has been for years. 

Dana, do you think she's paying the price for her plantation remark last week? 

MILBANK:  Probably not.  Because, once again, plays very well the base.  The people who were objecting to it were never going to support her in the first case.  And I really think the only thing that this is right now is do people recognize her name.  [What is it you don't understand, here? We recognize her name, yes. And we abhor the person attached to that name. Get it?]

KORNBLUT:  And I would add to that.  It's 51 percent say definitely not.  Remember the margin that's we've been talking about in the last few presidential races, 51 percent is terrible, but all she would have to do is bump it by a few numbers, a few percentage points and be OK.  [I can see why Pinch hired you. Your Alice-in-Wonderland illogic is quintessential New York Times. With 100% name recognition and roughly 10% corruption recognition (thanks in no small measure to your rag), missus clinton has only one way to go. And it isn't up.]

... Anyway, thank you Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times," Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post." 

Join us again tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 Eastern for more HARDBALL.  Right now it is time for "THE ABRAM'S REPORT" with Dan.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

Copy: Content and programming copyright 2006 MSNBC.  ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 

HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS
January 25, 2006


December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
Mia T
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton


SEE VIDEO: "HILLARY IS 'DOOMED'" (more 'plantation' fallout)


GONE WITH THE WIND
(miss hillary's 'plantation' blunder)


WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.


IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)



WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES
(Please see post 65)


REDACTION LOOPHOLE: ACCESS TO THE BARRETT REPORT


HILLARY CLINTON KNEW ABOUT THE RAPE: HEAR JUANITA BROADDRICK


ROCKEFELLER SEDITION: WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS?


THE ABSURDITY OF A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY


CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS:
Justice Undone in the clinton White House


clintonCORRUPTION: the more things change. . . .


Alien Abductions, Flying Saucers + Other Weird Phenomena, c.1992-2000


IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: barrettreport; chrismatthews; clinton; gallup; hardball; hillary; hillaryclinton; loser; newyorktimes; plantation; silkpursesowsear
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1 posted on 01/26/2006 4:28:05 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Laverne

ping


2 posted on 01/26/2006 4:30:40 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

ping


3 posted on 01/26/2006 4:32:11 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

If it is Hillary vs McCain it will be Hillary vs McCain vs Tancredo.


4 posted on 01/26/2006 4:32:14 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Mia T

Thank you Mia! LOL..I love the Gallup poll!


5 posted on 01/26/2006 4:33:13 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Sam the Sham

Hillary will win, therefore.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 4:34:15 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Mia T

Mia T. Bump.


7 posted on 01/26/2006 4:39:25 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Mia T

When you consider how the Left lives or dies based on polling results, that 51% figure should be pretty depressing to them.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 4:40:05 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: backhoe

That is IS a happy thought. ;)


9 posted on 01/26/2006 4:41:22 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Mia T

The best thing about a Hillary nominatin will be to watch all the angst in DUmmieland. They are convinced that Karl Rove is plotting to make her the Democrat nominee.


10 posted on 01/26/2006 4:42:38 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Mia T
Nice post, as always Mia.
America has grown weary of the Clintons, the Gores, the Kerrys, the Kennedys. The only support these people have are special interest groups, and there aren't enough of them to vote these people back into office. I look forward to 2008 almost more than I did 2000 and 2004.
11 posted on 01/26/2006 4:44:38 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: backhoe
Can we pass a law making physicians assisted suicide available to all Democrats?
12 posted on 01/26/2006 4:45:48 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: MEG33

Gallup is no rightwing tool. Someone up there on the Left want to rid the party of miss hillary, methinks.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 4:47:07 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Who do they want? Kerry is a bad joke.


14 posted on 01/26/2006 4:48:36 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33
I was somewhat taken aback by both the "51%" figure, and the "definitely will not vote" category.

I mean, jeez! Hillary has 90% of the Jackal Pack Press in her corner, most of the entertainment industry shilling for her, and she cannot get better spin than that? How the mighty have fallen...

15 posted on 01/26/2006 4:49:15 AM PST by backhoe (A Nuke for every Kook- what Clinton "legacy...")
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To: MEG33

Warner


16 posted on 01/26/2006 4:50:45 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
This 51% tracks perfectly with the nine months of tracking on this question done by Rasmussen. He had it in the high 30s for a while then it started upward. The last numbers from December were in the low 40s. I believe the jump is a natural occurrence because the reality of a beast whitehouse is now a calendar year closer. The only down side is that it might cause her to not get the nomination. We want her to run so we can turn our efforts toward working on electing more down ballot people.
17 posted on 01/26/2006 5:00:54 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
thx. :)

"All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Apparently missing the irony, George Soros spoke those words even as he was trying his $25,000,000-damnedest to render himself "more equal than others" in order to foist his radical, paranoic, lethally dangerous dementia on all of America.

"Animal Farm" is George Orwell's satirical allegory of the Russian Revolution; but it could just as easily be the story of the Democratic Party of today, with the

Kennedy-Pelosi-Gore-clinton (either--"one for the price of two," I say)-Sulzberger-Soros-Moore construct

its porcine manifestation.

The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality
(Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President)
by Mia T, 6.04.04


18 posted on 01/26/2006 5:01:45 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Chances are, those 51% are not going to change their minds about Hitlery. Once you can't stand a candidate, it's real hard to put a check next to their name on a ballot.


19 posted on 01/26/2006 5:11:00 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: backhoe

indeed


20 posted on 01/26/2006 5:15:26 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: UWSrepublican

ping


21 posted on 01/26/2006 5:23:53 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
..Chrissy, NOT Foamy @ the mouth for Hillary? ...What's up? ...lowering expectations? The Ole' Klintoon campaign trick? ...very likely.
22 posted on 01/26/2006 5:29:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: wolfcreek

That is exactly correct! Hillary still has appeal to a few soccer moms and other victims of flawed awareness but she has absolutely zero charisma at attracting new followers.

Hillary, setting off on the red state campaign trail, with her sodomist husband chained to one ankle and treason, abortion, gun control and "plantation politics" chained to the other. Priceless/hopeless.


23 posted on 01/26/2006 5:29:37 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (DO NOT read to the end of this tagline . . . Oh, $#@%^, there you went and did it.)
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To: Mia T
Someone up there on the Left want to rid the party of miss hillary, methinks...

I know, Bill "Bubba" Klintoon, the Ultimate Humiliation/Insult to Hillary "Rodham Rodham Rodham" Klintoon.....He really wants to humiliate her, No joke. :^/

24 posted on 01/26/2006 5:37:18 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass
I think Chris Matthews actually cares about his party.
He knows missus clinton is a sure loser.
Listen to his devastating comments from a previous show:

HEAR CHRIS MATTHEWS + MAUREEN DOWD DEVOUR HILLARY

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)


25 posted on 01/26/2006 5:39:38 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Milbank, Kornblutt & Matthews. Why didn't they have Mrs. Greenspan there for an even number of DNC butt-lickers? How can anyone in their right mind call Hardball intelligent, polical discussion?!
26 posted on 01/26/2006 5:42:12 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

You think there's hatred for Pres. Bush, wait until 'Theonewho'snameshallnotbeuttered' becomes Pres. Although, NO WAY it's going to happen!


27 posted on 01/26/2006 5:45:08 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

"MILBANK: Probably not. Because, once again, plays very well the base. The people who were objecting to it were never going to support her in the first case. And I really think the only thing that this is right now is do people recognize her name. [What is it you don't understand, here? We recognize her name, yes. And we abhor the person attached to that name. Get it?]"

So 51% are not going to support her in the first place. Are the RATS going to try and win in another 43% Presidential election? That would mean a third party.

Also, they say the gallup poll is useless. I guess it is only useful when Bush is pummeled in one.


28 posted on 01/26/2006 6:11:15 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: wolfcreek

If the dems had half a brain they'd pick Joe Lieberman for a candidate. Ya know he is a nice man. He openly supports the troops and I think the only one who supported Alito. He is from the old Democratic Party.

Then again I did say half a brain and we know that they don't. The lunnie left fringe sees Lieberman as a threat to their screwy agenda.

The lunnie left is disintegrating our republic. Over my dead body !


29 posted on 01/26/2006 6:11:41 AM PST by citizensgratitude (Our Military, present & past, the Highest example of Brotherhood of Man and doing God's Will)
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To: Wolverine; backhoe; jla; All

Looking for the video clip of this exchange. If anyone has it, kindly post link (or if not online, send me the file). Thx.


30 posted on 01/26/2006 6:15:21 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: backhoe

Her politics aside - and I know that's a big stretch - as Rush noted, she is NOT a likable person.

No one wants to hear that fish wife screeching on the news every night.

Evil as her spouse is - and the devil will not appear as the monster he is but will come across as personable, charming etc. - his personna was attractive.


31 posted on 01/26/2006 6:18:00 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: hummingbird

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32 posted on 01/26/2006 6:22:00 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Republic

ping


33 posted on 01/26/2006 6:25:54 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

They can attempt to rationalize it but everyone knows who Hillary is. That's as real a number as they could get given her solid recognition.

They asked a similiar question and got 46%? definitely against Condi. About the same as those who always vote Dem. Sizeable, but remaining the minority. America doesn't know Condi very well, but the percentages speak volumes.

G.W.B. got 51% of the vote. Democrats got around 48% BUT with Fraud so I'm going to say 46% is probably very accurate of how many they really have in their camp absent illegals voting, prisons, voting, morgues voting.... The most they've gotten since Carter , who benefited from Watergate, 'Nam and Ford, was 49% with Bill.

Sure, Hillary will get more than 16% to vote for her. But these numbers seem to indicate she's not going to do better then any Democrat would. The only way she wins, then, is to split a three way race like with Perot. And that only happens if the GOP chooses a lousy candidate the base won't support.

She does not have the ability to convert "red state" voters. Any reasonably good candidate from the GOP can beat her. Scare mongers that are attempting to scare base GOP voters into voting for their guy, McCain, are doing so deceptively. The premise is a lie that only McCain or Rudy could beat Hillary, if Hillary is even their nominee. Infact, I'd go so far as to say McCain would ensure a Hillary win. She still wouldn't crack 50% of the vote, but the Rep turnout would be lower as people protest Mccain. I guarentee he won't get my vote. It's a MSM sponsered myth that a conservative, even one minus star power, cannot win.


34 posted on 01/26/2006 6:42:46 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Mia T

bump


35 posted on 01/26/2006 6:46:50 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Sam the Sham
Perot redux?
Now there's a sure way to elect another dysfunctional clinton by a plurality.

Make no mistake..
Dividing the Right is the clintons' only move.
Will we fall for it yet another time?
I don't think so....

FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)

audio
*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"

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36 posted on 01/26/2006 6:51:34 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Thanks..I fail to see the allure there either.


37 posted on 01/26/2006 6:54:57 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

He's the Ds version of Mitt Romney minus the movie-star good looks.


38 posted on 01/26/2006 7:05:45 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: citizensgratitude
If the dems had half a brain they'd pick Joe Lieberman for a candidate.

They don't, which is why they will pick Lieberman's running mate instead in '08.

39 posted on 01/26/2006 7:07:48 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: Let's Roll
Exactly.

SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor


REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2



40 posted on 01/26/2006 7:18:01 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: backhoe
"When you consider how the Left lives or dies based on polling results, that 51% figure should be pretty depressing to them."

Yep. And that it was Gallup/CNN meant that they could not ignore it. LOL...

41 posted on 01/26/2006 7:19:59 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Soul Seeker
We can't afford to run on hypotheticals. We must run the strongest candidate. Period. These are not ordinary times.

See post 36. Also: WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.

As for hillary's problem in particular, and a female's in general


It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.

G. K. Chesterton


THE PROBLEM

While America appears not to be ready for a female president under any circumstances, the post-9/11 realities pose special problems for a female presidential candidate. Add to these the problems unique to missus clinton. The reviews make the mistake of focusing on the problems of the generic female presidential candidate running during ordinary times.

These are not ordinary times. America is waging the global War on Terror; the uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds is the battlefield; the enemy is brutal, subhuman; the threat of global conflagration is real.

Defeating the enemy isn't sufficient. For America to prevail, she must also defeat a retrograde, misogynous mindset. To successfully prosecute the War on Terror, it is essential that the collective patriarchal islamic culture perceives America as politically and militarily strong. Condi Rice excepted, this requirement presents an insurmountable hurdle for any female presidential candidate, and especially missus clinton, historically antimilitary, forever the pitiful victim, and, according to Dick Morris, "the biggest dove in the clinton administration."

It is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason... and, in spite of Juanita Broaddrick, or perhaps because of her, Rod Lurie would be reduced to perversely hawking the "First Gentleman" instead of the "Commander-in-Chief."

Mia T, 10.02.05
HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
COMPLETE ARTICLE
see descriptor morphs

Mia T, 11.23.05
REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2


42 posted on 01/26/2006 7:36:57 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

"Gallup is no rightwing tool. Someone up there on the Left want to rid the party of miss hillary, methinks."

Well said! I totally agree, and they are coming out early to attempt to get her to not run, IMO.


43 posted on 01/26/2006 7:38:12 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

bump
see 36


44 posted on 01/26/2006 7:42:12 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

HILLARY.....FINALLY A MAN THE DEMOCACTS CAN SUPPORT


45 posted on 01/26/2006 7:45:42 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Mia T

If she can't win fairly, she'll need to prepare to win by dirty means. Hillary surely considers this good information because it allows her plenty of time to prepare.


46 posted on 01/26/2006 8:20:15 AM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief
 

 

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update
by Mia T, 7.23.05




Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the reality of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley Braun:
an Extension of clinton
drag and drop and legacy of lynching
by Mia T, 2.20.03

  



Why do you suppose the clintons and Landrieu -- through Mayor ('chocolate... You can't have New Orleans no other way') Nagin -- tried to get their voters back, post haste (no trouble bussing 'em straightaway and en masse when it's to the polls) -- to a still toxic morgue with no potable water, no emergency support and with renewed risk of deluge?

Mia T, 01.18.06
GONE WITH THE WIND
(miss hillary's 'plantation' blunder)




Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a white man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.

Mia T, 07.23.05
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update


Full transcript. Video excerpt: RealPlayer or Windows Media. Plus MP3



47 posted on 01/26/2006 8:29:00 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: UWSrepublican


48 posted on 01/26/2006 1:42:40 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: MEG33; Mia T; Corin Stormhands
Who do they want? Kerry is a bad joke.

Warner

George Allen would hand Warner his hat and show him the door.

49 posted on 01/26/2006 2:53:14 PM PST by jla
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Watched Warner on C-SPAN. Seemed likable, reasonable and competent... (as opposed to missus clinton)....

He struck me as a potentially tough opponent.


50 posted on 01/26/2006 7:03:27 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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