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Pro-Choice Is a Lie: Babies Never Choose to Die
Human Events Online ^ | 1/25/06 | Michael Lewis

Posted on 01/29/2006 1:35:15 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: bushinohio

Abortion is more about a deadly power play than anything else: certain people need to have the "right" to kill innocents.


21 posted on 01/29/2006 3:43:30 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: anonymoussierra

Yes, the the offense is a sin against God and His gift of life. An awful price will be paid for the casual slaughter of the innocents.


22 posted on 01/29/2006 3:45:29 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Iran, you are next.)
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To: wagglebee
The truth is, as Father Bob and my college buddies chanted at the March, pro-choice is a lie. Babies never choose to die.

46,000,000 babies who never chose to die...

23 posted on 01/29/2006 5:51:15 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: wagglebee; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; AlbionGirl; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

24 posted on 01/29/2006 6:25:05 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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25 posted on 01/29/2006 6:34:23 PM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: wagglebee
I don't know if anyone has thought of this before as I have just thought of it myself.

Couldn't we create a law, much like a new Florida law gave mothers freedom to leave their children at police and fire stations instead of trash cans without abandonment charges, we could save these embryos and raise them in incubators of some sort and them become a ward of the state instead of cutting them to pieces? Doesn't that give both parties involved the choice? The child was created and lived therefore it's choice was to survive. The mothers choice is to not birth a child (I assume) so her choice is preserved. The law should be that mothers who decide on not caring for their children should give them up to the sate so they can be adopted by loving parents, much as it is for mothers who decide to not care for their birthed children.

My knowledge in premature babies and how they can survive, and from what pregnancy term, is not vast but I know of MANY cases of abortions I've read that the baby would have most certainly survived.

Perhaps this is a route we should take? Anyone heard of anything of this sort before?

 

26 posted on 01/29/2006 6:45:44 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
46,000,000 babies who never chose to die...

No one ever mentions the babies they would have had thay not been destroyed. What would the number of "prevented births" would that add up to?

27 posted on 01/29/2006 6:48:40 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: md2576

The Culture of Death wants the babies dead. Adoption covers the situation you are describing.


28 posted on 01/29/2006 6:49:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: md2576

If anyone posts a reply and puts my quote in it, I hope they "would" correct the "would" grammar. Thanks!


29 posted on 01/29/2006 6:50:54 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: wagglebee

You're right, I forgot people already pay pregnant mothers to birth children for them. But still, this is not actually birthing a child if the baby can be taken before birth and grown with new (perhaps old) technology.


30 posted on 01/29/2006 6:53:15 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: md2576
No one ever mentions the babies they would have had thay not been destroyed. What would the number of "prevented births" would that add up to?

Excellent point. Babies that were aborted in the 70's would now be having children.

31 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:55 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Excellent point. Babies that were aborted in the 70's would now be having children.

I was born in 76 (don't laugh) but I have two.

Had only half the babies killed had two children we would be nearing a Billion "prevented pregnancies".

Probably over but I'm no mathematician.

 

 

32 posted on 01/29/2006 7:02:26 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: wagglebee

Our nephew's GF killed their unborn baby a few months ago.. she was about 3 months along. I can't even imagine what her evil reason was. He begged and pleaded with her to have the baby, but she killed it. We offered to adopt the baby, but she killed it. Other family members offered to adopt the baby, but she killed it. If she didn't want to take care of the baby, why did it need to die? Her mother took her to go have it done, she even had a baby herself several months before. Why was her daughter's baby killed, but the mother's baby spared? I will never, ever understand how someone can kill a baby.
Everytime I see an abortion thread I think about this now :(


33 posted on 01/29/2006 7:02:57 PM PST by Trillian
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To: Trillian

VERY SAD story which could come back to haunt them years from now...


34 posted on 01/29/2006 7:08:33 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (Democrats would vote against Jesus Christ for the Supreme Court.)
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To: Trillian
Fathers have no rights to their children, even after the baby is born (without a lawyer and a judge). I am sorry about your and your sons loss. Perhaps his only solace in this (if there can be any) will be that he doesn't have to deal with that evil witch the rest of his life. Although, her decision will weigh on him forever, my condolences.
35 posted on 01/29/2006 7:10:42 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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Via Guiness Records

Most Premature Baby
James Elgin Gill was born to Brenda and James Gill on May 20, 1987, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He was 128 days premature, and weighed just 624 g (1 lb 6oz). James' parents were told he had no chance of survival. Much of his body was still developing, including his skin, hands, ears, and feet. James' eyes were still fused shut.

Update:

World's Tiniest Premature Baby Born in England

The world's smallest surviving premature baby, born in London 16 weeks early and weighing only 21.14 ounces, is now six months old and is a healthy nine pounds. Christopher Williams was born November 21 at Whipps Cross Hospital, and is expected to be included in the next edition of the Guinness Book of World Records.

"When I first saw Christopher I just burst out crying," his mother Leona told the Guardian. "He was so tiny that I didn't know how long I would have him for. Every day was a milestone, and every night I prayed that he would make it through the night."

The previous record-holder was James Elgin Gill of Canada, who was born 128 days premature and weighing 21.84 ounces.

Christopher underwent weeks of oxygen therapy and had two hernia operations, spending the first five months of his life in the hospital. But his mother said he is doing very well. "I look at him now and I can't believe he's the same Christopher," Leona Williams told the Guardian. "He's just a bouncing baby boy with the sweetest nature.

"I just want to do everything I can to make sure the rest of his life is easy now."

 

36 posted on 01/29/2006 7:47:53 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: RunningWolf
I don't know if this is true, legally speaking, but if a woman is pregnant, and she is murdered--thus killing the baby--then the defendant can be charged with double homicide, right?
37 posted on 01/29/2006 8:03:09 PM PST by Lochlainnach (Rifle man's stalkin the sick and lame; preacher man seeks the same, who gets there 1st is uncertain)
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To: Lochlainnach

That is true and the pro-abortionists fought that law for the very reason you mention it.


38 posted on 01/29/2006 8:16:46 PM PST by md2576 (You don't have to be a DUmmie to hate the Patriot Act.)
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To: Lochlainnach
I think it has already happened legally.

The whole 'pro choice' campaign is a lie in that 'the choice' has already been made. The consequences always follow inevitably.

Wolf
40 posted on 01/29/2006 8:30:03 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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