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Pro-Choice Is a Lie: Babies Never Choose to Die
Human Events Online ^ | 1/25/06 | Michael Lewis

Posted on 01/29/2006 1:35:15 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: .30Carbine; All
I Ask Forgiveness from our King for not Holding Forth the Remedy for our Sins, Even our Jesus Christ, Who Died to Forgive Sinners and Make them His Children. I Apologize if I Looked as a Pharasee, Especially to Any Lurkers who I may have Hurt by my Comments. Our Christ Says to Sinners of Any and Every Sort, "Look to me and be Saved, all ye Ends of the Earth!" There is Salvation and Forgiveness Ready of our King to be Bestowed Upon Every Hurting Heart; His Arms are Open Wide to Receive those who Come to Him.

All we Like Sheep have Gone Astray; we have Turned Every One to his Own Way; but the Lord has Laid Upon Him the Iniquity of us All. "Come Unto Me, All ye that are Weary and Heavy-Laden, and I will Give you Rest," Says our Redeemer, the King.

Oh, He is a Loving, Caring, and Compassionate Savior, and to All who Come to Him, He will Never Turn you Aside.

Gracious is the Lord, and Righteous; yea, our God is Merciful.

(I Ask Forgiveness from you, Dear King's Child, .30Carbine, for Any Offence or Pain I may have Caused you, or Anyone Else. I Love you, in our Sweet Lord's Holy Name.)

61 posted on 01/30/2006 2:19:43 PM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: Kitty Mittens

Oh my dear friend and sister! No apology or forgiveness is necessary! He shines in and through you so gracefully!


62 posted on 01/30/2006 2:29:12 PM PST by .30Carbine (hugs!)
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To: .30Carbine
Thank you, my Sister! Our Christ's Love for mankind Flows from your Heart, Inspiring me to Greater Love for them.

You are Blessed of the Lord, Who Made Heaven and Earth! (Ps.115:15)

63 posted on 01/30/2006 4:38:00 PM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: wagglebee

The cleft palate statement really is sickening, isn't it? Last year a lady at church gave birth to a little girl with a cleft palate. She is a darling little girl. Months later it was operated on. The baby was a sweetheart before, but just gorgeous after the operation. It's not even obvious. To think some people would even think to kill someone like that.


64 posted on 01/30/2006 4:44:54 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (`)
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To: .30Carbine; Kitty Mittens; All

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“Eto fore His Majesty Justice infore is not for you all people of heart of humbleness, infore uno; Justice is for these whom have hard heart, due; Justice for world if do not repent; tre; Mercy is His Majesty. Eto fore you carry this pain in heart; infore you ask and Mercy infore was shown you.

Justice infore I write is powerful and humanity will have to answer infore of its sins. I pray pray pray always pray, infore His Majesty Majesty of Majesty Holy Justice will not be released for humanity ete inocordinuum HIS WORDS WILL NOT GO AWAY THERE WILL BE JUSTICE. Infore eto a patience of saints hold His Majesty Holy of Holy Heart. Love is everything

Infore Lucifer inocordinuum will be crashed upon of sins of he has done. I pray in silence. Eto fore there are good who are left.”
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Be strong!!! Thank you


65 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:29 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("et accesserunt ad eum caeci et claudi in templo et sanavit eos " Amen!!!)
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SENATOR SANTORUM to HILLARY CLINTON on Senate floor:

I will challenge you to find anyplace in the record over the last 7 years where I said that was never the case. I have never said there are not difficult cases.

What I have said repeatedly, because I wanted to be truthful with respect to the factual situations with which we are presented on the issue of late-term abortions and the instances in which partial-birth abortions are used--I refer the Senator to the State of Kansas where they have to report the reason for a partial-birth abortion; 182 were done last year, or the year before, and of those 182, none--zero--were done because of a problem with the child or a physical problem with the mother. They were classified as mental health.

Emphasis on: "They were classified as mental health."


66 posted on 01/30/2006 6:54:31 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: Giant Conservative

"Reproductive Rights" is one of those public issues where the inequality between the sexes is rarely discussed.

Reproductive rights does not exist as a legal concept for men, and men are regularly told that they have responsibilities and not rights. A man has no "reproductive rights" that a woman is bound to respect, whether in nor out of marriage, to keep the baby or not. The only right that men have is to keep their pants zipped up, as the course of their lives and their hope for posterity is entirely dependent on the woman's "choice".

I remember hearing a feminazi screeching about how vital "reproductive rights " were for all human beings, insofar as their ability to determine the course of their lives is concerned. It got me to wondering how it is that no comparable "reproductive right" exists for men other than the right to keep your trousers zipped up. A man's income can involuntarily be confiscated to care for children that he does not want, affecting the course of his life. Under the law, he is utterly responsible to support any children with his DNA, and often even for those without it. In many states, women are allowed to ABANDON newborn children that they do not want at hospitals or firehouses, no questions asked. Men don't even have any "reproductive rights" in marriage, because his wife retains her "reproductive rights" if she "chooses" to exercise them.

I don't think either sex should have these "reproductive rights", and should deal with the concequences of a pregnancy, wanted or not. But if as the feminazi says, these rights are vital to human beings, than I wish to suggest the following remedies. An unmarried man, upon being promptly notified of an unwanted pregnacy by his mate, should have the option of a paternal veto (abortion) absolving him of financial and legal responsibility for the child. A married man who discovers that his wife has had an abortion against his wishes should recieve presumptive grounds for a divorce or annullment of the marriage, with the same holding true for one who concieves against his wishes.

Than again maybe the feminazi thinks that men shouldn't qualify for "reproductive rights" since she probably thinks men aren't human anyway.

My point is that men have no "reproductive right" that is INDEPENDENT of a woman's choice, wheras women have options that can be and are exercised independently of a man's wishes. Note that this feminine reproductive veto extends to nullification of the man's wishes whether the man wants the child or not, whether in or out of marriage. While I am acutely aware that this is in large part due to the uniqueness of the reproductive process, this nevertheless leaves the man without any independent ability to influence the woman legally.

I am not even necessarily saying that this is a bad thing, but I do find it curious that we often behave as though the only party affected by the birth of a child is the woman, and to prevent a negative influence on the course of her life we must preserve her right to kill her unborn child. If unmarried, she can "choose" to keep the child and can enlist the support of the state to forcibly take money from the sperm donor against his will. And if he wants the child, then he must yield to her choice to abort.

The common response to the man is that you should have been more careful in your choice of partner, or you should have kept your trousers zipped up. Legally he is told that he has no option other than the one that the woman "chooses" to give him.

Again, I think that BOTH parties should allow a normal pregnancy to take it's course, and come to a mutually agreed upon resolution. But if we insist upon a regime where a "reproductive right" is allowed for only half of the human race, than I think that men should have some LEGAL option to influence the woman's "choice" in either direction, rather than act as though this isn't a significant life altering event for them as well. The one option that I would absolutely forbid, of course is a forced abortion.

Having said all this, I do think it unlikely to happen. Men are legally held to the strictest of standard of responsibility where conception is concerned.


67 posted on 01/30/2006 9:20:15 PM PST by DMZFrank
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Here is another great example of the down the rabbit hole insanity that abortion "law" is. A few years ago in Chicago, a married manager of a fast food resturant was charged with the murder of his girlfriend and her unborn child. It seems that he knocked her up, and she came to extort him for hush money, part of which was to go for an abortion. He killed her because he didn't want to pay the dough for it.

While the murder charges for the girlfriend are easy to understand, I was struck as to how there was almost no discussion of the fact that he got charged for achieving precisely the same objective for the child that the "mother" was seeking and that she would have been entirely free of legal consequence for by having the deed performed by a medical hitman.

Aside from the grave moral implications, abortion law is also the greatest insult to logic and linear reasoning that was ever perpetrated by man or Supreme Court justice!!!


68 posted on 01/30/2006 9:23:30 PM PST by DMZFrank
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