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The Cuddle Puddle of Stuyvesant High School
New York ^ | January 30, 2006 | Alex Morris

Posted on 01/31/2006 1:44:20 PM PST by presidio9

Alair is wearing a tight white tank top cut off above the hem to show her midriff. Her black cargo pants graze the top of her combat boots, and her black leather belt is studded with metal chains that drape down at intervals across her hips. She has long blonde curls that at various times have been dyed green, blue, red, purple, and orange. (“A mistake,” she says. “Even if you mean to dye your hair orange, it’s still a mistake.”) Despite the fact that she’s fully clothed, she seems somehow exposed, her baby fat lingering in all the right places. Walking down the sterile, white halls of Stuyvesant High School, she creates a wave of attention. She’s not the most popular girl in school, but she is well known. “People like me,” she wrote in an instant message. “Well, most of them.”

Alair is headed for the section of the second-floor hallway where her friends gather every day during their free tenth period for the “cuddle puddle,” as she calls it. There are girls petting girls and girls petting guys and guys petting guys. She dives into the undulating heap of backpacks and blue jeans and emerges between her two best friends, Jane and Elle, whose names have been changed at their request. They are all 16, juniors at Stuyvesant. Alair slips into Jane’s lap, and Elle reclines next to them, watching, cat-eyed. All three have hooked up with each other. All three have hooked up with boys—sometimes the same boys. But it’s not that they’re gay or bisexual, not exactly. Not always.

Their friend Nathan, a senior with John Lennon hair and glasses, is there with his guitar, strumming softly under the conversation. “So many of the girls here are lesbian or have experimented or are confused,” he says.

Ilia, another senior boy, frowns at Nathan’s use of labels. “It’s not lesbian or bisexual. It’s just, whatever . . . ”

Since the school day is winding down, things in the hallway are starting to get rowdy. Jane disappears for a while and comes back carrying a pint-size girl over her shoulder. “Now I take her off and we have gay sex!” she says gleefully, as she parades back and forth in front of the cuddle puddle. “And it’s awesome!” The hijacked girl hangs limply, a smile creeping to her lips. Ilia has stuffed papers up the front of his shirt and prances around on tiptoe, batting his eyes and sticking out his chest. Elle is watching, enthralled, as two boys lock lips across the hall. “Oh, my,” she murmurs. “Homoerotica. There’s nothing more exciting than watching two men make out.” And everyone is talking to another girl in the puddle who just “came out,” meaning she announced that she’s now open to sexual overtures from both boys and girls, which makes her a minor celebrity, for a little while.

When asked how many of her female friends have had same-sex experiences, Alair answers, “All of them.” Then she stops to think about it. “All right, maybe 80 percent. At least 80 percent of them have experimented. And they still are. It’s either to please a man, or to try it out, or just to be fun, or ’cause you’re bored, or just ’cause you like it . . . whatever.”

With teenagers there is always a fair amount of posturing when it comes to sex, a tendency to exaggerate or trivialize, innocence mixed with swagger. It’s also true that the “puddle” is just one clique at Stuyvesant, and that Stuyvesant can hardly be considered a typical high school. It attracts the brightest public-school students in New York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual inhibitions. “In our school,” Elle says, “people are getting a better education, so they’re more open-minded.”

That said, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle is emblematic of the changing landscape of high-school sexuality across the country. This past September, when the National Center for Health Statistics released its first survey in which teens were questioned about their sexual behavior, 11 percent of American girls polled in the 15-to-19 demographic claimed to have had same-sex encounters—the same percentage of all women ages 15 to 44 who reported same-sex experiences, even though the teenagers have much shorter sexual histories. It doesn’t take a Stuyvesant education to see what this means: More girls are experimenting with each other, and they’re starting younger. And this is a conservative estimate, according to Ritch Savin-Williams, a professor of human development at Cornell who has been conducting research on same-sex-attracted adolescents for over twenty years. Depending on how you phrase the questions and how you define sex between women, he believes that “it’s possible to get up to 20 percent of teenage girls.”

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Of course, what can’t be expressed in statistical terms is how teenagers think about their same-sex interactions. Go to the schools, talk to the kids, and you’ll see that somewhere along the line this generation has started to conceive of sexuality differently. Ten years ago in the halls of Stuyvesant you might have found a few goth girls kissing goth girls, kids on the fringes defiantly bucking the system. Now you find a group of vaguely progressive but generally mainstream kids for whom same-sex intimacy is standard operating procedure. “It’s not like, Oh, I’m going to hit on her now. It’s just kind of like, you come up to a friend, you grab their ass,” Alair explains. “It’s just, like, our way of saying hello.” These teenagers don’t feel as though their sexuality has to define them, or that they have to define it, which has led some psychologists and child-development specialists to label them the “post-gay” generation. But kids like Alair and her friends are in the process of working up their own language to describe their behavior. Along with gay, straight, and bisexual, they’ll drop in new words, some of which they’ve coined themselves: polysexual, ambisexual, pansexual, pansensual, polyfide, bi-curious, bi-queer, fluid, metroflexible, heteroflexible, heterosexual with lesbian tendencies—or, as Alair puts it, “just sexual.” The terms are designed less to achieve specificity than to leave all options open.

To some it may sound like a sexual Utopia, where labels have been banned and traditional gender roles surpassed, but it’s a complicated place to be. Anyone who has ever been a girl in high school knows the vicissitudes of female friendships. Add to that a sexual component and, well, things get interesting. Take Alair and her friend Jane, for example. “We’ve been dancing around each other for, like, three years now,” says Alair. “I’d hop into bed with her in a second.” Jane is tall and curvy with green eyes and faint dimples. She thinks Alair is “amazing,” but she’s already had a female friendship ruined when it turned into a romantic relationship, so she’s reluctant to let it happen again. Still, they pet each other in the hall, flirt, kiss, but that’s it, so far. “Alair,” Jane explains, “is literally in love with everyone and in love with no one.”

Relationships are a bitch, dude.”

Alair is having lunch with Jane, Elle, and their friend Nathan at a little Indian place near Jane’s Upper West Side apartment. Jane has been telling the story of her first lesbian relationship: She fell for a girl who got arrested while protesting the Republican National Convention (very cool), but the girl stopped calling after they spent the night together (very uncool).

“We should all be single for the rest of our lives,” Alair continues. “And we should all have sugar daddies.” As the only child of divorced parents, Alair learned early that love doesn’t always end in happily ever after and that sex doesn’t always end in love.

Nathan looks across the table at her and nods knowingly. He recently broke up with a girl he still can’t get off his mind, even though he wasn’t entirely faithful when they were together. “I agree. I wholeheartedly agree,” he says.

“I disagree,” says Elle, alarmed. She’s the romantic of the group, a bit naïve, if you ask the others.

“Well,” says Nathan. “You’re, like, the only one in a happy relationship right now, so . . . ”

Alair cracks up. “Happy? Her man is gayer than I am!” (Jane, the sarcastic one, has a joke about this boy: “He’s got one finger left in the closet, and it’s in Elle, depending on what time it is.”)

“But at least she’s happy,” argues Nathan.

“When I’m single, I say I’m happy I’m single, and when I’m in a relationship I seem happy in the relationship. Really, I’m filled with angst!” says Elle.

Nathan rolls his eyes. “Anyone who says they’re filled with angst is definitely not filled with angst.”

He’s got a point. In her brand-new sneakers and her sparkly barrettes, Elle is hardly a poster child for teenage anxiety. She makes A’s at Stuyvesant, babysits her cousins, and is engaging in a way that will go over well in college interviews.

Then again, none of them are bad kids. Sure, they drink and smoke and party, but in a couple of years, they’ll be drinking and smoking and partying at Princeton or MIT. They had to be pretty serious students to even get into Stuyvesant, which accepts only about 3 percent of its applicants. And when they’re not studying, they’re going to music lessons, SAT prep, debate practice, Japanese class, theater rehearsal, or some other résumé-building extracurricular activity.

Their sexual behavior is by no means the norm at their school; Stuyvesant has some 3,000 students, and Alair’s group numbers a couple dozen. But they’re also not the only kids at school who experiment with members of the same sex. “Other people do it, too,” said a junior who’s part of a more popular crowd. “They get drunk and want to be a sex object. But that’s different. Those people aren’t bisexual.” Alair and her friends, on the other hand, are known as the “bi clique.” In the social strata, they’re closer to the cool kids than to the nerds. The boys have shaggy hair and T-shirts emblazoned with the names of sixties rockers. The girls are pretty and clever and extroverted. Some kids think they’re too promiscuous. One student-union leader told me, “It’s weird. It’s just sort of incestuous.” But others admire them. Alair in particular is seen as a kind of punk-rock queen bee. “She’s good-looking, and she does what she wants,” said a senior boy. “That’s an attractive quality.”

“The interesting kids kind of gravitate towards each other,” Elle had explained earlier. “A lot of them are heteroflexible or bisexual or gay. And what happens is, like, we’re all just really comfortable around each other.”

Still, among her friends, Elle’s ideas are the most traditional. Her first kiss with a girl was at Hebrew school. Since then, she’s made out with girls frequently but dated only guys.

“I’ve always been the marrying type,” she says to the table. “Not just ’cause it’s been forced on me, but ’cause it’s a good idea. I really want to have kids when I grow up.”

“Have mine,” offers Alair.

“I will,” Elle coos in her best sultry voice. “Anything for you, Alair.”

Jane blinks quickly, something she has a habit of doing when she’s gathering her thoughts. “They will probably have the technology by the time we grow up that you two could have a baby together.”

“But, like, if Alair doesn’t want to birth her own child, I could.”

“I’ll birth it,” Alair says, sighing. “I just want you to raise it and pay for it and take care of it and never tell it that I’m its parent. ’Cause, I mean, that would scar a child for life. Like, the child would start convulsing.” Everyone laughs.

“You’d be an awesome mom, I think,” says Elle. Her own mom puts a lot of pressure on her to date a nice Jewish boy. Once, Elle asked her, “ ‘Mom, what if I have these feelings for girls?’ and she said, ‘Do you have feelings for boys too?’ I’m like, ‘Yeah.’ And she’s like, ‘Then you have to ignore the ones you have for girls. If you can be straight, you have to be straight.’ ” Elle asked to go by a nickname because she hasn’t told her mother that she’s not ignoring those feelings.

Even as cultural acceptance of gay and bisexual teenagers grows, these kids are coming up against an uncomfortable generational divide. In many of their families, the ‘It’s fine, as long as it’s not my kid’ attitude prevails. Some of the parents take comfort in the belief that this is just a phase their daughters will grow out of. Others take more drastic measures. Earlier this year at Horace Mann, when one girl’s parents found out that she was having a relationship with another girl, they searched her room, confiscated her love letters, and even had the phone company send them transcripts of all her text messages. Then they informed her girlfriend’s parents. In the end, the girls were forbidden to see each other outside school.

Even Jane, whose parents know about her bisexuality and are particularly well suited to understanding it (her mother teaches a college course in human sexuality), has run up against the limits of their liberal attitudes. They requested that she go by her middle name in this story. “My mom thinks I’m going to grow up and be ashamed of my sexuality,” she says. “But I won’t.”

To these kids, homophobia is as socially shunned as racism was to the generation before them. They say it’s practically the one thing that’s not tolerated at their school. One boy who made disparaging remarks about gay people has been ridiculed and taunted, his belongings hidden around the school. “We’re a creative bunch when we hate someone,” says Nathan. Once the tormenters, now the tormented.

Alair is one of the lucky ones whose parents don’t mind her bisexual tendencies. Her dad is the president of a company that manages performance artists and her mom is a professional organizer. “My parents are awesome,” she says. “I think they’ve tried to raise me slightly quirky, like in a very hippie little way, and it totally backfired on them.”

“ ’Cause you ended up like a hippie?” Nathan asks.

“No, ’cause I went further than I think they wanted me to go.” Despite the bravado, there’s a sweetness to Alair. She sings in the Trinity Children’s Choir. She does the dishes without being asked. She’s a daddy’s girl and her mother’s confidante, though she hasn’t always managed to skirt trouble away from home. She got kicked out of her middle school, Columbia Prep, after getting into an altercation with a girl who had been making her life miserable. (“I threw a bagel at her head, all right? I attacked her with a bagel.”)

“My mom’s like, ‘Alair, I don’t understand you. I want to be a parent to you but I have no control at all . . . As a person you’re awesome. You’re hilarious, you entertain me, you’re so cool. I would totally be your friend. But as your mother, I’m worried.’ ”

“I can’t say I was pleased,” her mother tells me about first learning of Alair’s bisexual experimentation. “But I can’t say I was upset either. I like that she’s forthright about what she wants, that she values her freedom, that she takes care of herself. But I have all the trepidations a parent has when they learn their child is becoming sexually active.”

Of course, none of these kids will have to deal with their parents quite this directly in another year or so—a fact of which they are all acutely aware. College is already becoming a pressing issue. Everyone thinks Elle is going to get into Harvard. “If I fail physics, my average drops like a stone,” she frets. Alair and Nathan want to go to the same college, wherever that may be.

“You do realize,” Alair tells him, “that, like, we’re two of the most awesome people in the school.”

“We would room,” Nathan says. “We would totally room.”

“Fuck yeah. But I’m gonna need a lock on my door for like, ‘I’m bringing these five girls home, Nathan. What are you doing tonight?’ ” She mimics his voice, “‘I’m reading my book.’ ”

“Ouch!” Nathan scowls at her.

“It’s the Kama Sutra!”

“Oh, right, right.”

“I’ve actually read the Kama Sutra,” Alair informs the table. “Some of that shit just isn’t gonna work.”

“I know!” says Jane. “We have three editions at my house.”

“Like, I’ve tried it. You need a man that’s like ‘Argh!’ ” Alair pumps her arms up above her head. “I’ve got one of those guys, actually.” She’s talking about Jason, the boy she was hanging out with last night, another frequenter of the cuddle puddle. “He’s so built.”

“He’s in love with you,” Jane says drily.

“No, he’s not!”

“Yes he is!”

“How could he not be in love with Alair?” Nathan reasons.

Jane nods in Alair’s direction. “He bought you gum.”

“He bought you gum.” This cinches it for Nathan. “Yeah, he loves you. He wants you so in his underwear.”

Alair looks at him blankly. “But he already has that. We’re friends.” There’s no need to bring love into it.

But later, back at Jane’s apartment, as the afternoon is turning to night, Alair has the look of, if not love, at least infatuation, as she waits in the hallway for the elevator to take her back down. Only it’s not Jason she’s saying good-night to—it’s Jane. “You make my knees weak,” she says. And then to cut the tension: “I showered for you and everything.” She leans in and gives Jane a kiss.

It practically takes a diagram to plot all the various hookups and connections within the cuddle puddle. Elle’s kissed Jane and Jane’s kissed Alair and Alair’s kissed Elle. And then from time to time Elle hooks up with Nathan, but really only at parties, and only when Bethany isn’t around, because Nathan really likes Bethany, who doesn’t have a thing for girls but doesn’t have a problem with girls who do, either. Alair’s hooking up with Jason (who “kind of” went out with Jane once), even though she sort of also has a thing for Hector, who Jane likes, too—though Jane thinks it’s totally boring when people date people of the same gender. Ilia has a serious girlfriend, but girls were hooking up at his last party, which was awesome. Molly has kissed Alair, and Jane’s ex-girlfriend first decided she was bi while staying at Molly’s beach house on Fire Island. Sarah sometimes kisses Elle, although she has a boyfriend—he doesn’t care if she hooks up with other girls, since she’s straight anyway. And so on.

Some of the boys hook up with each other, too, although in far fewer numbers than the girls. One of Alair’s male friends explained that this is because for guys, anything beyond same-sex kissing requires “more of a physical commitment.” If a guy does hook up with other guys it certainly doesn’t make the girls less likely to hook up with him; and the converse is obviously true.

Of course, the definition of “hooking up” is as nebulous as the definition of “heteroflexible.” A catchall phrase for anything from “like, exchanging of saliva” to intercourse, it’s often a euphemism for oral sex. But rules are hazy when you’re talking about physical encounters between two girls. As Alair puts it, “How do you define female sex? It’s difficult. I don’t know what the bases are. Everyone keeps trying to explain the bases to me, but there’s so many things that just don’t fit into the base system. I usually leave it up to the other girl.”

Elle elaborates by using herself as an example. At a recent party, she says, she “kissed five people and, like, hooked up with two going beyond kissing. One of them was a boy and one of them was a girl. The reason I started hooking up with the guy is because he was making out with this other guy and he came back and was like, ‘I have to prove that I’m straight.’ And I was standing right there. That’s how it all began.” The guy in question became her boyfriend that night; even though the relationship is all of a week old, she calls it her second “serious” relationship. “At least I’m intending for it to be serious.” (It lasted eleven days.)

The cuddle puddle may be where a flirtation begins, but parties, not surprisingly, are where most of the real action takes place. In parentless apartments, the kids are free to “make the rounds,” as they call it, and move their more-than-kissing hookups with both genders behind locked bathroom doors or onto coat-laden beds. Even for bisexual girls there is, admittedly, a Girls Gone Wild aspect to these evenings. Some girls do hook up with other girls solely to please the guys who watch, and it can be difficult to distinguish between the behavior of someone who is legitimately sexually interested and someone who wants to impress the boy across the room. Alair is quick to disparage this behavior—“It kinda grosses me out. It can’t be like, this could be fun . . . is anyone watching my chest heave?”—but Jane sees it as empowering. “I take advantage of it because manipulating boys is fun as hell. Boys make out with boys for our benefit as well. So it’s not just one way. It’s very fair.”

She’s not just making excuses. These girls have obliterated the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” stranglehold that has traditionally plagued high-school females. They set the sexual agenda for their group. And they expect reciprocation. “I’ve made it my own personal policy that if I’m going to give oral sex, I’m going to receive oral sex,” says Jane. “Jane wears the pants in any relationship,” Ilia says with a grin. “She wears the pants in my relationship, even though she’s not part of it.”

When the girls talk about other girls they sound like football players in a locker room (“The Boobie Goddesses of our grade are Natalie and Annette,” or “Have you seen the Asian girl who wears that tiny red dress and those high red sneakers?,” or “Carol is so hot! Why is she straight? I don’t get it”), but there’s little gossip about same-sex hookups—partly because the novelty has by now worn off, and partly because, as Alair puts it, “it’s not assumed that a relationship will stem from it.” It seems that even with all the same-sex activity going on, it’s still hard for the girls to find other girls to actually date. Jane says this is because the girls who like girls generally like boys more, at least for dating. “A lot of girls are scared about trying to make a lesbian relationship work,” she says. “There’s this fear that there has to be the presence of a man or it won’t work.”

But dating gay girls isn’t really an option either, because the cuddle-puddle kids are not considered part of the gay community. “One of the great things about bisexuality is that mainstream gay culture doesn’t affect us as much,” says Jane, “so it’s not like bi boys feel that they have to talk with a lisp and walk around all fairylike, and it’s not like girls feel like they have to dress like boys.” The downside, she says, is that “gays feel that bis will cheat on them in a straight manner.” In fact, there’s a general impression of promiscuity that bisexual girls can’t seem to shake. “The image of people who are bi is that they are sluts,” says Jane. “One of the reasons straight boys have this bi-girls fantasy is that they are under the impression that bisexual girls will sleep with anything that moves and that’s why they like both genders, because they are so sex-obsessed. Which isn’t true.”

If you ask the girls why they think there’s more teenage bisexual experimentation happening today, Alair is quick with an explanation. “I blame television,” she says. “I blame the media.” She’s partly joking, giving the stock answer. But there’s obviously some truth to it. She’s too young to remember a time when she couldn’t turn on Showtime or even MTV and regularly see girls kissing girls. It’s not simply that they’re imitating what they’ve seen, it’s that the stigma has been erased, maybe even transformed into cachet. “It’s in the realm of possibilities now,” as Ritch Savin-Williams puts it. “When you don’t think of it as being a possibility, you don’t do it. But now that it’s out there, it’s like, ‘Oh, yeah, that could be fun.’ ” Of course, sexy TV shows would have no impact at all if they weren’t tapping into something more innate. Perhaps, as research suggests, sexuality is more fluid for women than it is for men. Perhaps natural female intimacy opens the door to sexual experimentation at an age when male partners can be particularly unsatisfying. As one mother of a cuddle-puddle kid puts it, “Emotionally it’s safer—it’s difficult in this age group to hold onto your body. You’re changing. There’s a safety factor in a girl being with a girl.” Then, laughing, she asked that her name be withheld. “My mother might read this.”

It’s true that girls have always experimented, but it’s typically been furtive, kept quiet. The difference now is how these girls are flaunting it. It’s become a form of exhibitionism, a way to get noticed at an age when getting noticed is what it’s all about. And as rebellions go, it’s pretty safe. Hooking up with girls won’t get them pregnant. It won’t hurt their GPA. It won’t keep them out of honor societies, social groups, the Ivy League.

In the end, the Stuyvesant cuddle puddle might just be a trickle-down version of the collegiate “gay until graduation.” On the other hand, these girls are experimenting at an earlier age, when their identities and their ideas about what they want in a partner are still being formed. Will it affect the way they choose to live their adult lives? Elle is determined to marry a man, but Alair and Jane are not so sure. Maybe they won’t get married at all, they say, keep their options open. “I have no idea,” says Alair. “I’m just 16.”

Afew weeks later, the guys are hanging out in Nathan’s room. Jason is stretched out on the bed and Ilia is leaning back in a chair by the desk, and it’s pretty clear that nothing much is happening this afternoon. Just some guitar playing, some laying about. Then the girls show up and things get more interesting. Alair and Jane have brought a couple of friends, Molly and Nikki. Molly doesn’t know for sure if she’s bisexual, but “I have my suspicions,” she says; she’s hooked up with Alair before. Nikki is with her friend Jared, who she’s sort of but not really dating. He makes out with boys but considers Nikki his “soul mate”; she’s totally straight but kisses girls. “I kiss anything pretty, anything beautiful, anything worthwhile,” she says.

Nikki runs her hands through Jane’s hair. “You look awesome! I love this shirt. I love your hair.” Jane crosses the room to sit in Alair’s lap, and Alair wraps her arms around her. That reminds Nikki of something.

“Wait! Let me show you guys the next painting I’m doing,” she says, pulling from her backpack a photograph of Alair asleep on the beach in a striped bikini. It’s a sexy picture, and Nikki knows it.

Chinese food is ordered, guitars strummed, an ice cube is passed around and for no apparent reason everyone is required to put it down their pants. It’s just another afternoon of casual flirtation. The boys showing off for the girls, the girls showing off for everyone. No strings attached. In theory, anyway. Most of the kids say they hate relationships, that they don’t want to be tied down, that they want to be open to different possibilities and different genders from minute to minute, but there is a natural tendency—as natural perhaps as the tendency to experiment—to try to find connection. Like it or not, emotions get involved. If you look closer, you can see the hint of longing, the momentary pouting, the tiny jealousies. Jared can’t take his eyes off Nikki, but Nikki seems interested mainly in Alair. Jason, too, is angling for Alair’s attention, but Alair is once again focused on Jane. And Jane, well, Jane might actually be in love.

She is in a particularly good mood today, quick to smile, and even more quick to drop into conversation the name of the boy she recently started dating, a tall, good-looking senior and one of the most popular kids at Stuyvesant. Later, while rummaging for silverware, she casually mentions that they may start dating exclusively.

“Ugh!” Alair exclaims, grabbing her by the hips and pulling her away from the drawer. “What about me?”

“Let’s put it this way,” Jane counters, grinning and snatching up a fork. “I’m not interested in any other guys.”

Still, it’s clear that Jane really likes this guy. And Alair seems a little rattled. Her fortune cookie reads, “You are the master of every situation.” Except perhaps this one.

Later, after the lamps have been switched on and the takeout eaten, both girls are on a love seat in the living room, leaning into each other, boys and dirty dishes strewn about. Jane starts showing off what she can do with her tongue, touching her nose with it, twisting it around, doing rolls. Everyone is impressed.

“My tongue gets a lot of practice,” she says.

“Why don’t you practice on me?” Alair demands. “I’ll hook up with you.” It’s clear that she means more than kissing.

Jane blinks a few times. “I’m scared I’m going to be bad at it,” she finally says. She’s being coy, just putting her off, but there’s a bit of sincerity to her nervousness.

“You won’t be bad at it,” Alair reassures her. She pulls Jane between her legs and starts giving her a massage, running her hands up and down her back, pushing her hair aside to rub her neck. When the massage is over, Jason comes over to Alair, grabs her hand, kisses it. For the rest of the evening, he stays close to her side, but she stays close to Jane.

The next day when I meet up with Alair on her way to choir practice, she tells me that nothing ever happened with Jane that night. She’s decided to give up on her. Jane’s with someone else, it’s official, and there’s no room in the relationship for her. “But you know what,” she says, mustering a smile. “They’re, like, monogamous together, and I’m really happy for them. And being their friend and seeing them so happy together totally beats a fling.” She pauses. “It really does.”


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Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters. Clearly they’ve never observed the social rituals of the pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen.
1 posted on 01/31/2006 1:44:23 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Sad story.

I fear our civilization will hit bottom so hard that there will be no putting it back together again.


2 posted on 01/31/2006 1:47:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; wagglebee; DBeers; MillerCreek; little jeremiah; Grampa Dave; scripter

ping


3 posted on 01/31/2006 1:48:11 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the convenient deadline.)
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We are raising a society of good little slaves, and the masses are too stupid to see it coming. Whatever, girlie, I don't care anymore.


4 posted on 01/31/2006 1:48:47 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: presidio9

I just assume it's girls vying for boys' attention.


5 posted on 01/31/2006 1:48:57 PM PST by Huck (Roe/Kelo: You have a right to privacy IN your bedroom; you just don't have a right TO your bedroom.)
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YIKES.


6 posted on 01/31/2006 1:49:17 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: presidio9

Oh, goody. All my fears about the future of western civilization have been put to rest.


8 posted on 01/31/2006 1:50:01 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: presidio9
“In our school,” Elle says, “people are getting a better education, so they’re more open-minded.”

Uh-huh. That's got to be the reason. Can't wait to watch you turn into a pillar of salt.
10 posted on 01/31/2006 1:51:19 PM PST by steel_resolve
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To: presidio9

Miss Morford would fit right in with this crowd.


11 posted on 01/31/2006 1:52:10 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: presidio9

Agenda-driven media obsession. In reality, it's a bunch of really shallow kids who like to pretend they are all grown-up.


12 posted on 01/31/2006 1:52:12 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: presidio9

The Democrat incubator.


13 posted on 01/31/2006 1:52:50 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: presidio9
"Researchers find it shocking that 11 percent of American girls between 15 and 19 claim to have same-sex encounters. Clearly they’ve never observed the social rituals of the pansexual, bi-queer, metroflexible New York teen."

I would believe this if these stats were limited to Liberal populated areas only. It's amazing just how quickly the gay agenda can end up corrupting an entire society and result in creating a generation of sexually confused youth who have no concept of what their roll in society regarding relationships and family life should be.
14 posted on 01/31/2006 1:53:00 PM PST by WashingtonStateRepublican
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To: presidio9

It's like, ah, puke.


15 posted on 01/31/2006 1:53:34 PM PST by TheBlueMax ("Men of intemperate mind never can be free; their passions forge their fetters")
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Sad but not surprising. Brokeback Brooklyn...


16 posted on 01/31/2006 1:53:35 PM PST by nk_47
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To: presidio9
SODOM & GOMORRAH are resurrected within our public school systems.

Yessiree...my state's [Florida] SC justices are social engineers, no doubt, for outlawing school vouchers,
thus forcing parents to lose more money trying to get private education for their children.

17 posted on 01/31/2006 1:53:40 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: steel_resolve
“In our school,” Elle says, “people are getting a better education, so they’re more open-minded.”

..."You'll have to excuse me now, my herpes is flaring up again."

18 posted on 01/31/2006 1:53:59 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: presidio9

I couldn't finish this article. How sick/sad is this?


19 posted on 01/31/2006 1:54:43 PM PST by Millee (I've got FRiends in low places..)
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To: BenLurkin

What's really sad is that Stuy is a Magnet School like Bronx Science....you have to qualify through testing to get in.


20 posted on 01/31/2006 1:54:56 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: presidio9


I got as far as "they are whatever." I say "whatever are they going to do for a life?"


21 posted on 01/31/2006 1:55:16 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: presidio9
I couldn't finish reading this stuff. It makes me nauseous. This has a little too much melodramatic flair for my tastes. Somebody needs to do a fact check on this story. My guess is that our author is projecting his own homo-erotic fantasies onto the characters here. It reads more like The Outsiders than copy.
22 posted on 01/31/2006 1:56:26 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: orionblamblam

ARGHHHH!
My 16 year old college freshman is gonna hafta go to a convent now! I have got to stop reading stuff like this before I go completely nuts!


23 posted on 01/31/2006 1:56:29 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BenLurkin

Will hit bottom????


24 posted on 01/31/2006 1:57:27 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: presidio9

Massive child abuse at Stuyvesant HS by teachers, social workers, etc. The NY City Board of Education is a hotbead of NAMBLA members and other democrat party activists.


25 posted on 01/31/2006 1:58:00 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: presidio9
Dude...if this really is the predominant motif in all our schools (and not some abberation of the NE), I'm moving.

This IS the country that the leftist demoCREEPs want, and they were talking all about "This isn't my country" (just because George Bush was elected). WTF?

These people are seriously deranged.

26 posted on 01/31/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by mattdono (The New 'Rat math: 0.0000017% = Vast Wiretapping of "Americans" Riiiggghhhhtttt...)
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To: Huck

"I just assume it's girls vying for boys' attention."

That's my take too. They're only acting that way to be "cool" and "outrageous".

This too shall pass.


27 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:02 PM PST by Pessimist
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To: presidio9

I feel ill when I think what kind of a society the liberals have turned ours into...


28 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:17 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: presidio9
To these kids, homophobia is as socially shunned as racism was to the generation before them.

Well, there ya go.

29 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:21 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: mlc9852

I'm afraid that we're not there yet.


30 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: presidio9

This is the future. This is what the ACLU and homosexuals want. And its what they are getting. Confuse kids at a young enough and they wont know what they are.


31 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:42 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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In the enlightened world of Stuyvesant High School, adolescent romance can get complicated.

In the perverted world of Stuyvesant High School, unsupervised adolescents brainwashed by leftists can display various psychological disorders.

32 posted on 01/31/2006 1:59:46 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: mattdono
These people are seriously deranged.

Perfect summation of the situation.

33 posted on 01/31/2006 2:00:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: presidio9

Don;t look at me. While I was accepted at Stuy, I went to Regis! ;-)


34 posted on 01/31/2006 2:01:56 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: presidio9
The good news is that this is New York State, where even if Roe goes down in flames, abortion will still be legal.

The bad news, is that there are people like this. I hope they grow up before they self destruct.
35 posted on 01/31/2006 2:02:35 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: presidio9

I don't feel so bad about turning down Stuyvestant to got to a private school.

check that, I never felt bad


36 posted on 01/31/2006 2:03:57 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: presidio9

Does anyone know the bio of the guy that wrote this crap? I'm not buying all of this stuff.


37 posted on 01/31/2006 2:04:46 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Quoting Hillary Clinton: "You know, you know, you know, you know.....")
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To: BenLurkin

Lighten up. They'll calm down in a few years, when their hormones have settled down. Meanwhile, they're getting the kind of educations that are necessary to keep the U.S. as the leading economic power in the world.


38 posted on 01/31/2006 2:04:53 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: presidio9
Elle is watching, enthralled, as two boys lock lips across the hall. “Oh, my,” she murmurs. “Homoerotica. There’s nothing more exciting than watching two men make out.”

*sigh* No wonder the Army had to raise the enlistment age to 40.

39 posted on 01/31/2006 2:05:19 PM PST by Drew68
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To: presidio9

I for one a sick to death of seeing 12-17 year old's baby fat hanging out and I mean hanging. Worse than that is the 30+ year old that think it is sexy as well. Are women so wrapped up in fitting in and buying what designers peddle that they are not seeing that jeans with pockets slung down on your butt make even the slimmest girl look fat.

Ad nauseum.


40 posted on 01/31/2006 2:05:22 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: presidio9

Molly and Alair at Nathan's apartment.
41 posted on 01/31/2006 2:05:44 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: presidio9
It attracts the brightest public-school students in New York, and that may be an environment conducive to fewer sexual inhibitions. “In our school,” Elle says, “people are getting a better education, so they’re more open-minded.”

Uhhhh ... OK. Conversely, then, any qualms can be chalked up to simply being stupid. This is where I stopped reading. What did I miss?

42 posted on 01/31/2006 2:06:14 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: finnman69

43 posted on 01/31/2006 2:07:09 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: presidio9

Does anyone else suspect (as I do) that this might be exaggerated or fictionalized?


44 posted on 01/31/2006 2:07:46 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: presidio9

HEY FOLKS! Go to the table of contents for this mag and look at all of the other freaky stories! This is some weird homo/NAMBLA mag of some sort.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 2:08:37 PM PST by barj
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To: BenLurkin

This is what happens when parents abandon guiding the lives of their children in the right paths. These parents will tell you that they are just letting the kids "find themselves". Actually, they are just too lazy to take the time to give their kids a little direction. These kids are out of control and the parents are too lazy and detached to care or do anything about it. It makes me sick. I spend a lot of my time at home giving little lessons to my 5 kids on any number of subjects. I might be tired, but when I need to handle something, I do it. I'll be damned if my kids will go off experimenting with all manner of hell on Earth - destroying their lives and the lives of their friends and family without me intervening.


46 posted on 01/31/2006 2:08:54 PM PST by lnbchip
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To: BenLurkin
The interesting thing is that these deluded children call themselves "bi-" but indulge in very few actual relationships. Nothing about these kids has to do with their hearts, only their libidos.

Like most teenagers, they are spending a lot of time masturbating, but, since the constraints of propriety have fallen for them (or never been erected in the first place), they are simply using each other to do it. They are indulging in an immature, selfish circle jerk.

47 posted on 01/31/2006 2:09:20 PM PST by Dr. Thorne
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To: mattdono
Dude...if this really is the predominant motif in all our schools

You apparently were distracted by all the titillating teen hormone stuff, and missed the fact that these are extremely smart, extremely well-educated kids, who are well on their way to being very productive adults who don't feed at the government trough. Unfortunately, that is NOT the "predominant motif in all our schools".

48 posted on 01/31/2006 2:09:28 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: barj

It's New York magazine, generally screamingly trendy and liberal. Very gay friendly.


49 posted on 01/31/2006 2:09:59 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: wtc911
Well, I'd put it more like 'Bonx Sci is a magnet school like Stuy.' Stuy used to be the rolls royce of the public schools in nyc. I suspect it still is highly regarded.

To be fair, I was never that impressed with it - I was accepted to Stuy for the Class of '86, but when I visited the place I was unimpressed, mostly with the fellow students, but also with the facility was also very dumpy at the time (though the new facility is extraordinary).

See, I was even very hard to please at the tender age of 14. ;-)

I opted to attend Regis HS, which was a better decision. To be fair, most graduates of Regis and Stuy I know work in cubicles or small offices, and are terrified of middle managers. So much for the best & brightest. :-)
50 posted on 01/31/2006 2:09:59 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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