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Buchanan defends foreign aid for Hamas
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 02/01/2006 | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 02/01/2006 10:09:49 AM PST by SirLinksalot

Buchanan defends foreign aid – for Hamas

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Posted: February 1, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 Creators Syndicate Inc.

Ever since President Bush, sometime after 9-11, converted to neoconservatism, his Middle East policy has suffered from the triple defects of that subspecies of the Right: hubris, ideology and immaturity.

Neoconservatives see the world as they wish it to be, not as it is. Like teenagers, they act on impulse and rail against the counsel of experience. "Often clever, never wise," Russell Kirk said of the breed.

Repeatedly, Bush was warned by traditional conservatives that to send a U.S. army to occupy Baghdad would engender Arab rage and Islamic terror. Heeding the "cakewalk" crowd, he refused to listen. Three years later, we are trying to extricate a U.S. army from Iraq with the least possible damage to U.S. security interests.

Prodded again by neoconservatives, Bush declared our true goal had always been to democratize Iraq and the entire Islamic world. His second Inaugural resonated less of Reagan than of Rousseau:

So, it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.

To advance the end of "tyranny in our world," Bush began to call for elections across the Middle East. Again, he and Condi were warned that if these people were allowed to vote their convictions, they might just vote to throw us out and throw the Israelis into the sea.

Now that elections have been held, what do the returns show?

Propelled into or toward power have been Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran, pro-Iranian Shiite zealots in Iraq, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and Hamas in Gaza and on the West Bank.

Now, Condi, who denounced Bush's predecessors back to FDR for supporting dictators while preaching democracy in the Middle East, appears about to engage in a bit of hypocrisy of her own.

After insisting Hamas be included in the elections, Condi, stunned by the results and under pressure from Israel, has declared we will cut all aid to the Palestinian Authority if Hamas takes over the government, as Hamas was elected to do.

Bush agrees. Unless Hamas surrenders its weapons, abandons all armed resistance and recognizes Israel's right to exist, we will not give 10 cents to a Palestinian Authority that has Hamas as its head. Rice is said to be pressuring Europe to do the same. Unless Hamas remakes itself into a Mideast version of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference of Dr. King, we terminate aid.

Before adopting this knee-jerk reaction to an election we insisted go ahead, one trusts the president, this once, will think it through.

What is likely to happen if we proceed on such a course?

If we and the Europeans cut off aid, and Israel refuses to remit to the Palestinians the taxes they collect, the Palestinians will be put through hell for voting the wrong way. The Arabs will call us hypocrites who believe in elections only if they produce the results we demand.

And who could say they are wrong?

What will Hamas do? They are not going to disarm in the face of an Israeli military that has been killing Palestinians – collateral damage, of course – at four times the rate that Palestinians have been killing Israelis. They are not going to give up their trump card and recognize Israel's right to exist before they get a Palestinian state.

What will Hamas do? Hamas will accept the cut-off of aid, seek money from the Saudis and Iranians, do their best to keep the Palestinian people fed, clothed, housed and educated, and sacrifice for their people. And Hamas will fail. And when they fail, whom do we think will be blamed? When the Palestinian people have been broken because they voted the wrong way, whom do we think they will hate?

Let me propose another course. Put Hamas on probation.

For almost a year, Hamas has held to a truce with Israel and not engaged in attacks. Let America and Europe send word that if the truce holds, if Hamas does not attack Israeli civilians, if Hamas show its first concern is, as it claims, bettering the life of the Palestinian people, we will let the aid flow. But if Hamas reignites the war, we will not finance the war. We will terminate the aid.

Make Hamas responsible for continuing the aid. And make Hamas responsible for terminating it, if it comes to that.

Understandably, the Israelis are close to hysterical over the landslide for Hamas and are on a diplomatic campaign to have all donors end all aid to a Palestinian Authority dominated by Hamas.

But that is not in our interests. It is not even in Israel's interest. For it has been Israel's behavior, and uncritical U.S. support for that behavior, that produced this victory for Hamas. To continue on that road is to arrive at, literally, a dead end.

Bush has unleashed a revolution in the Middle East, and it is everywhere bringing to power Islamic fundamentalists. Either we deal with them, or fight them or get out of the Middle East.


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1 posted on 02/01/2006 10:09:51 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

I guess Pat is a selective isolationist.


2 posted on 02/01/2006 10:11:45 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat is an idiot...occasionally he comes out with a jewel, but it is usually an island of brilliance in a sea of bull poop.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 10:12:48 AM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat: "Israel is a quagmire."


4 posted on 02/01/2006 10:14:08 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Nothing new. Pat = pro Pali terrorists & anti Israel. I wish he'd get a clue that his 15 minutes were over long ago and fade away.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 10:14:36 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: SirLinksalot
What an idiot this guy is.

If we and the Europeans cut off aid, and Israel refuses to remit to the Palestinians the taxes they collect, the Palestinians will be put through hell for voting the wrong way. The Arabs will call us hypocrites who believe in elections only if they produce the results we demand.

Of course we believe in the election. That's why we are cutting the funding.

But, I suspect Bush will back down due to pressure from the State Department who will make these same arguments as Buchanan about it hurting the Palestinians, causing us to lose infoluence etc...

6 posted on 02/01/2006 10:14:42 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Cacique; Alouette; veronica; Ziva

Ping!


7 posted on 02/01/2006 10:15:20 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: SirLinksalot

"For it has been Israel's behavior, and uncritical U.S. support for that behavior, that produced this victory for Hamas."

And yet there are still those who say ole Pat's a conservative!?!?!?

ROFL


8 posted on 02/01/2006 10:15:59 AM PST by Timothy
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat has gone totally off the bend and obviously has converted from Catholicism to Islam. They don't hate us because of Israel these barbarians just want to take over the world and it's about time we just buckled down and decided to win this war on Islam rather than appease it. Islam should be declared an ideology, not a religion - after all Nazis worshipped Hitler, and it should be immediately outlawed as a subversive organization.

The Palestinians should reap what they sow, they've been catered to for too long. Any attack should be met with extreme force and the PA should be wiped off the map. Pat should be retired to the mental institution where he can be given proper care. He's obviously delusional.


9 posted on 02/01/2006 10:16:00 AM PST by JMS
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To: demkicker

Folks,

Here is a thought experiment -- WHAT IF PAT BUCHANAN WERE PRESIDENT.... What would happen to Israel and Iraq ?


10 posted on 02/01/2006 10:16:00 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

This sounds a bit like the old "Neoconservatives are nothing but Jew lovers" routine. He never seems to tire of that one.


11 posted on 02/01/2006 10:16:22 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: SirLinksalot
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12 posted on 02/01/2006 10:16:57 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: SirLinksalot

Of course he does...


13 posted on 02/01/2006 10:17:09 AM PST by kenth
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To: SirLinksalot

I'm ashamed I ever liked this guy.


14 posted on 02/01/2006 10:17:44 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: johniegrad

I used to be one of those, that defended Buchanan against the charges of anti-semitism.

Those days are no more.


15 posted on 02/01/2006 10:17:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SirLinksalot

Fund nail bombers?

Pat is f'ing nuts.


16 posted on 02/01/2006 10:17:57 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: SirLinksalot

I must confess his reasoning is appealing. I hope rather than savage his suggestion we consider it seriously. We do not need to appear to be rejecting a democratically elected government, do we?


17 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:02 AM PST by Publius Maximus (Compassionate Conservatism: Profligate Liberal Spending With A Conservative Rhetorical Twist)
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To: atomicpossum
"Pat: "Israel is a quagmire."

Pat is an antisemitic bore. His attack on the so called Neo-Cons is based on the fact that most of them are of Jewish heritage and they have more influence than he ever had since Nixon left office.
18 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:14 AM PST by wmileo
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To: SirLinksalot; dennisw
Wasn't too bad, until I got to this -

"For it has been Israel's behavior, and uncritical U.S. support for that behavior, that produced this victory for Hamas."

Then it lost every single speck of credibility.

19 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:34 AM PST by MarMema (Steelers favorite local seafood - mud eel chowder)
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat=anti-semite


20 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:44 AM PST by freethinkingman
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To: SirLinksalot
Interesting. I've been a conservative my entire life. Didn't realize I was actually a "neo-conservative". Guess I am, according to Pat.

Sure am glad he's never won any political race. He'd be signing policy seated in the middle of the smoking crater that was the White House.

21 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:45 AM PST by Egon (I don't want edible meat, I want edible animals. - CygnusXI)
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To: Publius Maximus

We can fund Al Qaeda, too, since it is very popular in many Arab countries, more so than the regimes that rule them.


22 posted on 02/01/2006 10:18:49 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: demkicker
Anything that is bad for Israel is good in Pat's book.

He rants and raves about the money we give to Israel but has no problem with sending money to a terrorist group bent on the destruction of every Jew in the middle east?

Oh wait... I answered my own question.

23 posted on 02/01/2006 10:19:02 AM PST by Angus MacGregor
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To: el_texicano; rdb3; aculeus; Thinkin' Gal; Petronski; hellinahandcart; Senator Bedfellow; ...
... occasionally he comes out with a jewel ...

To avoid unhinging Pat, say gem.

;-)

24 posted on 02/01/2006 10:19:27 AM PST by dighton
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To: SirLinksalot
I'm confused? Should we ONLY isolate ourselves from capitalist and cuddle up to terrorists and tyrannical dictators? What's his stance with Castro? Give him aid too?

I fear Pat has finally lost it!
25 posted on 02/01/2006 10:19:28 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: tallhappy

Gee....we won't cut off aid if they want to live in PEACE! duh! They've already declared their intentions. Just because they go to vote doesn't absolve of the the responsiblity that comes to them with voting.

They chose continued war ... THAT IS NOT BUSH'S FAULT...all we did was let them choose.


26 posted on 02/01/2006 10:20:32 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat. There was a reason Bush selected Condi, Rummy, Wolfie to be in his national security cabinet. And this crap about him being influenced by some neocon cabal is outright ridiculous.

You had balls at one time fighting the Soviet Empire. Grow some now for fighting the Islamo-facists. Just because the Jews are against them, doesn't mean you shouldn't be. Grow up, you dolt.


27 posted on 02/01/2006 10:20:40 AM PST by pissant
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To: SirLinksalot
Translation: "I oppose foreign aid, unless it's being given to Jew-killers. Then I demand it."

Why don't you mortgage some of your homes and run for Senate somewhere this year, Pat?

28 posted on 02/01/2006 10:21:06 AM PST by wideawake
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To: dighton

Or at least spell it Jooooool.


29 posted on 02/01/2006 10:21:20 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: demkicker

"Nothing new. Pat = pro Pali terrorists & anti Israel. I wish he'd get a clue that his 15 minutes were over long ago and fade away."

Add in the rest of the McLaughlin group, except tony blankley


30 posted on 02/01/2006 10:21:35 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: nmh
"I fear Pat has finally lost it!"

I question that Pat ever had IT...

31 posted on 02/01/2006 10:21:40 AM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: SirLinksalot
Pat has joined the Carter camp, Hamas are HONEST terrorists.
32 posted on 02/01/2006 10:23:21 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: el_texicano

You've got a point!

You're right, he never did cook on all four burners!


33 posted on 02/01/2006 10:23:27 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: SirLinksalot

Let Pat send them his paycheck, then we can nail him for aiding a terror network.


34 posted on 02/01/2006 10:23:27 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: SirLinksalot

Just like a Jesuit.


35 posted on 02/01/2006 10:24:18 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: SirLinksalot

I'm embarassed that I voted for him.


36 posted on 02/01/2006 10:24:41 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: SirLinksalot
For it has been Israel's behavior, and uncritical U.S. support for that behavior, that produced this victory for Hamas.

See its so simple, its all our fault. He sounds like Cindy. I have an idea Pat, how about we hold the Palestinians responsible for once.

I apologize to the world for having voted for him once in a primary.

37 posted on 02/01/2006 10:24:56 AM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Patrick1

It's all about the "Jooooooosssss."


38 posted on 02/01/2006 10:25:04 AM PST by LS
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To: SirLinksalot

It's easy to just dismiss Pat as an anti-Semite, but I think his problem is that he's more of a Arabophile and a hard core so-called "realist," and it blinds him to the realities of the Middle East today.

It seems like his Middle East policy views are stuck in 1971.


39 posted on 02/01/2006 10:26:10 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"I'm embarassed that I voted for him."

Then you should be flogged with a wet noodle until unconscious... ;~>

40 posted on 02/01/2006 10:26:11 AM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: SirLinksalot

If the populist, protect borders, protect manufacturing job, etc. movement wants to gain any traction, they need to dump Jihad Pat.


41 posted on 02/01/2006 10:26:21 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

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42 posted on 02/01/2006 10:26:39 AM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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To: SirLinksalot

I've never liked him myself. Hasn't he claimed for years that the holocaust never happened?


43 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:07 AM PST by katieanna (Money is a good servant but a bad master.)
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To: Publius Maximus

There's a slight ethical problem, wouldn't you say? Using taxpayer money to fund killers, is immoral.


44 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:56 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: dfwgator

I don't want to gloat, but I've never liked him. But I have known a lot of other people who are in the same boat as you -- they've defended him for years and I wonder what they have to say now.


45 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:59 AM PST by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat's hatred for Israel/Jews has all but completely rotted his brain and now dominates whatever thought process he can muster.


46 posted on 02/01/2006 10:28:11 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SirLinksalot
Pat actually makes sense most of the time, and is even, on occasion, brilliant when he sticks to domestic political issues and some of that inside the Beltway type stuff.

He's like my cat after a dose of catnip on foreign policy. Wild-eyed, and running into the walls.
48 posted on 02/01/2006 10:29:09 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Insanity overload in this article...


49 posted on 02/01/2006 10:29:56 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: SirLinksalot
We supported a democratic election. The people spoke and elected Hamas. Our support of an election on democratic principles should not be linked to foreign aid whether we support the winning entity or not.

Hamas is a purveyor of terror. It is in it's charter. It deserves NO funding from the United States.

The United States fosters democracy around the world through elections and a peaceful transfer of power. Buchanan is wrong on this.

50 posted on 02/01/2006 10:32:39 AM PST by afnamvet
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