Skip to comments.Bush Calls For 'Rational, Humane' Guest Worker Program
Posted on 02/01/2006 12:04:11 PM PST by Icelander
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A legal plan is meaningless as long as the illegal activity continues with impunity.
The wall is the only realistic start to any reform.
Cut off their taxpayer freebees, (heavily) fine employers who hire them, and end the anchor baby incentive. ......and then watch them self-deport.
Can the states take action to close their borders?
Here's one: Get out. Now.
I would only be for a guest worker program if it EXCLUDED illegals.
Time to whack the RNC over the head with a clue-by-four. They won't see another dime so long as they keep selling our nation out to illegals.
It seems that he cares not a whit for our borders, or for our language or for our culture.
The only rational guest worker program is NO GUEST WORKER PROGRAM.
All this talk of Guest worker Amnesty pisses us legal immigrants off. I waited over 4 years for my greencard.
We are not up to guest anything.
How about "guest workers" come from countries whose people have not violated our borders? I always invite people to my home who have shown me and mine courtesy and respect for not having trashed it or broken in before.
King Jorge is at it again with his nonsense about allowing illegals to have any status here other than illegal.
We raised hades with the House in November and December and even got a lot of Dims to vote a great set of laws in.
Now that law is handed over to the Senate who will come up with their own version.
The Senate is going to get an earfull, just like the House did.
Please join www.numbersusa.com and help in this grass roots effort to stop the illegal immigration or any kind of so call guest worker program.
We lambasted the House with over 175 thousand calls, letters and faxes every day! Believe me, it works.
The most humane thing we could do with the illegals is send them home. The economy does not need them and politicians who are hoping to give them citizenship in exchange for a vote are in for a rude awakening.
OK lets be rational:
Rational: Guest worker visa is NOT convertable to another type of visa.
Rational: Guest workers are ineligible to convert a work visa into US citizenship.
Rational: Children of guest workers are ineligible for us citizenship the same way foreign diplomat children born int the USA are ineligible for citizenship.
Rational: Guest workers are REQUIRED to leave the USA after ten years and may not return for work for a period of one year.
Fair enough. But I'll be expecting to see you picking tomatos in the fields outside our town.
For the cheap labor/wage depression industries "immigration" is always the solution.
I understand your statement. How will it be enforced and by whom?
IMO, the State of the Union address is one moment in time, where the President has a certain amount of time to address issues that face our country. Time constraints limit the amount of dialogue a President can give on any one issue. It seems to me that the SOTU address summarizes those issues and where our President stands on those issues. I'm sure that President Bush will be "directing Congress on immigration reform", but I do not believe he had to explain every fine detail to them in his SOTU address. He stated his opinions on Immigration very clearly, but apparently not some of our Senators seem to think that this was the only chance they had to get their "homework". LOL
Drop the "not" in my last sentence.
* El-pingo *
I would support that.
You know who we never see on these immigration threads? -- farmers who have to get their crops harvested and to market before they rot. When I start seeing regular Americans lining up to work in the fields of America, I'll be convinced that some sort of guest worker program isn't necessary.
Guest worker program visas will be BIlateral treaties with individual nations.
Each employer who hires a guest worker will be given a "must terminate" date. As long as each visa is tied to a specific employer then the person will be tracked.
Overstayes will be ineligible for future work visas.
That sounds rational to me.
Then lets get them from countries like Thailand.
Gee, how do the Japanese and other countries that don't allow mass immigration manage? I guess their citizens starve, or they all moonlight as farmhands.
A "clue by four" indeed! Well done!
Illegals are not immigrants, they are criminals, an should be subject to a far greater scrutiny then other candidates who have demonstrated their willingness to patiently abide by our laws. The President is dead wrong in his characterization of the issue.
Good for you! I appreciate your patience and determination to do things the RIGHT way!
This 'shamnesty' program is just that for one reason:
The government cannot force the illegals to sign up for anything, no matter how many programs they throw at them!
The illegals are HERE and giving them yet MORE 'goodies' as a result of jumping the border will just encourage more.
The government acts like it's rocket science when it's all so VERY simple:
1) Employing an illegal should be an automatic 5 years in jail and a $5,000 fine PER ILLEGAL
2) NO government food, health-care or welfare
3)No anchor babies....period!
4) Give the Border Patrol standing orders that if they are fired upon, they are to return fire, whether the target is Mexican military OR civilian
5)BUILD THE FENCE NOW!!!
And it took us five years and many bribes to get official residency (no green card or citizenship, of course) in Mexico. (I didn't pay the bribes, but the company lawyer did--he had to or else the permits never would have been issued).
You folks can just give up and go home. You heard Bush. He practically wagged his finger at you and said you're being a bad citizen if you criticize illegal immigration. You heard the man, the economy would grind to a halt without em.
So grab your IUD, morning after pill or abortion on demand and rest comfortable in the knowledge this government is going to make up the shortfall in reproduction numbers one way or another. The go go economy DEMANDS IT.
Overstayes will be ineligible for future work visas.
Who tracks the "guest worker" after the job ends? Who tracks and makes certain that the visa overstays leaves the country? My point is where is the guarantee that these workers actually leave our country.
Yeah, they're pretty happy with the status quo. Tell you what. You start paying all your little mexicans minimum wage and withholding the proper payroll and income taxes, or you go to jail. How's THAT for immigration reform.
Hiring illegals any other way is fraud, illegal labor practices, and tax cheating. Period, end of. Spin that, pennies.
It's your town. You pick them. :)
You know what I never see in these posts?
Logic from OBL-ers who on one hand claim we can't deport all the illegals here...then demand we bring in more to do those "Farm" jobs that the illegals already here won't do any more...they have moved on to Carpentry, Plumbing, Masonry etc.!
Meanwhile the Labor Unions do everything they can to obstruct automation for a LOT of the Farm Industry!
So when does this OBL free-for-all end? When will you idiots ever learn?
It's all about the Slaver Labor market, and Industries being able to depress wages to lower their overhead...those savings aren't passed on to the consumer, btw!
So, you all are full of excrement...and we see what Uncle Jorge has in store for Americans...
"Ahead Sell-Out Factor 10, Mr. Chertoff!"
The amount of time a President devotes to any given subject in his SOTU speech speaks loudly about how much he cares about that issue.
Bush said so little about the border that you could have completely missed it by going to the fridge for some refreshments...
Chris Cannon needs to be retired by his constituents.
What, you're bringing facts to a lynching?
Sounds very reasonable to me.
Add: REQUIRED to learn English.
Get what? Food, or guest workers?
I agree let's be rational.
After the workers are here for six years there will be about a million sympathetic news reports featuring Juan and Juanita and their family, home, church, schools, jobs, friends and community.
Any politician thinking about forcing them back home will fold in a heartbeat.
They will never go back home.
...probably won't make a difference. ;o)
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