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US backs Muslims in cartoon dispute
Reuters ^ | 02/03/2006 | Saul Hudson

Posted on 02/03/2006 1:31:35 PM PST by thierrya

US backs Muslims in cartoon dispute Fri Feb 3, 2006 3:28 PM ET

By Saul Hudson

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States backed Muslims on Friday against European newspapers that printed caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad in a move that could help America's battered image in the Islamic world.

Inserting itself into a dispute that has become a lightning rod for anti-European sentiment across the Muslim world, the United States sided with Muslims outraged that the publications put press freedom over respect for religion.

"These cartoons are indeed offensive to the belief of Muslims," State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said in answer to a question.

"We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."

American Muslims welcomed the U.S. position, although it stopped short of urging American media not to republish the cartoons that include depicting Mohammad as a terrorist.

Cooper said he had no comment as to why the United States chose to pass judgment in a dispute that ostensibly does not involve America.

But the United States, which was founded by immigrants fleeing religious persecution, has previously spoken out against publications offensive to believers of other faiths.

"Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images or any other religious belief," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters.

The United States, which before the September 11 attacks was criticized for insensitivity to the Islamic culture, has become more attuned to Muslim sensibilities.

Accusations last year that U.S. officials desecrated the Koran sparked deadly riots in Asia and heightened that awareness.

DIFFERENT RESPONSE IN U.S. AND EUROPE

Major U.S. publications have not republished the cartoons.

In contrast, some European media responded to the criticism against the Danish newspaper that originally printed the caricatures by reproducing the images and fueled anger that has led to boycotts of Danish products and widespread protests.

The U.S. response contrasted with European governments, which have tended to acknowledge the tension between free speech and respect for religion but have generally accepted the newspapers' rights to print the cartoons.

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American Islamic Relations, told Reuters he welcomed the U.S. position.

The State Department reaction "was a strong statement in support of Muslims around the world. It's a reflection of the concern felt by millions of Muslims and I think it will be appreciated," he said.

"It is support for an understanding that with freedom comes responsibility."

But Stephen Zunes, a professor of politics at the University of San Francisco and a Bush administration critic, said the United States was responsible for creating far more anger in the Muslim world because of its invasion of Iraq.

"The United States is the last nation that should caution against unnecessarily inflaming sentiments in the Muslim world," he said.

The U.S. criticism of the newspapers also comes after the Pentagon complained over a Washington Post cartoon.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff sent an unusual letter to the editor published on Thursday, denouncing as "reprehensible" and "beyond tasteless" a cartoon earlier in the week portraying Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as insensitive to U.S. troop casualties.

The cartoon portrayed a soldier who had lost his arms and legs with Rumsfeld at his hospital bedside saying, "I'm listing your condition as 'battle hardened.'"

(Additional reporting by Caroline Drees)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; muslims; ululululululululul
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1 posted on 02/03/2006 1:31:37 PM PST by thierrya
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To: thierrya

I remember when we used to have a spine.


2 posted on 02/03/2006 1:33:35 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: thierrya

OMG, the Euro's have more b@lls than the State Department.


3 posted on 02/03/2006 1:33:43 PM PST by neodad (Rock Chock Seahawks)
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To: thierrya

Sickening.


4 posted on 02/03/2006 1:33:48 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: thierrya

State Department spokesman.. figures


5 posted on 02/03/2006 1:34:15 PM PST by zzen01
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To: thierrya

duplicate (I'll find the 1st thread in a minute)


6 posted on 02/03/2006 1:34:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: thierrya

More self-defeat coming from the State Department. Let's just cut to the chase and run the Crescent and Star over the Capital Building.


7 posted on 02/03/2006 1:35:01 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: thierrya
Our State Department:


9 posted on 02/03/2006 1:36:02 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: thierrya
The United States backed Muslims on Friday against European newspapers that printed caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad in a move that could help America's battered image in the Islamic world.

Since when has kowtowing helped?

10 posted on 02/03/2006 1:36:43 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: thierrya

Had the state department said something to the effect of "this cartoon is just as offensive as the typical cartoons found in al jazeera and the press of many muslim countries in their depictions of Jews and Christians," then I would have applauded the spokesman.


11 posted on 02/03/2006 1:36:44 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: thierrya
Hey, remember saying this?:


'Dr Germ' and 'Mrs Anthrax' released from Iraqi jail

Posted by thierrya to TrebleRebel
On News/Activism 12/19/2005 9:33:41 PM EST · 66 of 90


As an European, how can I respect the US gov. anymore?
WMD: lies.
Democracy in Iraq: lies.
Etc....

The US my family used to respect and love are gone.

It's all over now.
Goodbye, and good luck to you all.




WMD wasn't a lie.
Here's a link.
Even ONE sarin shell being found is proof of WMD.
12 posted on 02/03/2006 1:36:52 PM PST by Darksheare (Aim low! They got knees!)
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To: All

Even if the most offensive becomes censored who will play that role in our society.

I am still ill over the Rumsfeld/quad amputee cartoon - but once we begin to sort out which can be published and which cannot, we are doing a disservice to our freedom of speech no?

Freedoms require responsibility, however we seem to be lacking in that concept these days. Still, I'll take insult over censorship and be my own guide as to what I will absorb and what I will ignore.


13 posted on 02/03/2006 1:37:21 PM PST by imintrouble
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To: freedumb2003

They are a U.S. Basher.


14 posted on 02/03/2006 1:37:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Aim low! They got knees!)
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To: thierrya
Freedom of Speech
Freedom of the Press

To hell with the muslims!

15 posted on 02/03/2006 1:37:41 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: thierrya
Where have I seen this Cooper guy before?

State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said, "We value the excellent cooperation we have with the government of Mexico in law enforcement and security issues."

- Regrding recent border incursions.

I can't believe this idiot is getting paid with my tax dollars.

16 posted on 02/03/2006 1:37:43 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: thierrya
US backs Muslims in cartoon dispute

So we're backing the calls to have these cartoonists killed, Condi?

17 posted on 02/03/2006 1:38:12 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: thierrya

Where can I get me one of those "Not in our name!" signs?


18 posted on 02/03/2006 1:38:13 PM PST by FreedomForce
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To: thierrya

"These cartoons are indeed offensive to the belief of Muslims," State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said in answer to a question.

"We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."

Oh, well then. Good thing no ther dieties are ever the subjects of such fare. Oh, wait...

This is disgusting bias by the federal government favoring one religion over another. Images of God and Jesus are free reign but don't mess with Mohammed. I am livid.


19 posted on 02/03/2006 1:38:47 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: thierrya

20 posted on 02/03/2006 1:38:50 PM PST by pabianice
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To: thierrya
F 'em, if they can't take a joke.
21 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:11 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: thierrya

The State Department's Kurtis Cooper added that in regard to Christians, we don't give a rats ass what anybody says about Jesus Christ, adding that The Last Temptation of Christ was his favorite movie.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:13 PM PST by DeaconNoGood
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To: thierrya

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States backed Muslims on Friday against European newspapers that printed caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad in a move that could help America's battered image in the Islamic world.



thats it, I'm outa here


23 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:13 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: imintrouble
I am still ill over the Rumsfeld/quad amputee cartoon - but once we begin to sort out which can be published and which cannot, we are doing a disservice to our freedom of speech no?

Here's the difference.

It is freedom of speech to say something shouldn't be published. The Post can then decide whether to apologize or not.

But the Muslims want the cartoonist prosecuted. And prefereably stoned to death as well.

Key difference.

24 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:15 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: thierrya
Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images or any other religious belief," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters.
What the hell? I can't turn on my television without a deluge of anti-Christian, anti-Jewish toxicity pouring out all over the carpet. It's bloody open season on Christians and Jews in this benighted damned country.

Perhaps we should start assassinating our enemies too.
25 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:15 PM PST by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: thierrya

We had no problem demonizing the Germans and Japanese in our cartoons during WWII. And those people had honor - they met us on the battlefield.

Now, we're fighting these 8th century cowardly zealots, but we're afraid to offend them.

We know you killed 3000 of our people in one day, but PLEASE don't be mad at us!!!


26 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:18 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: thierrya

Either you defend your rights or you lose them...

What idiots...


27 posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:39 PM PST by DB ()
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Precisely - you have an unlimited right to publish offensive speech, but no right to not be offended by published speech.

The State Department should be ashamed.


29 posted on 02/03/2006 1:40:07 PM PST by Haemo
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To: thierrya

These hysterical 'slums never learned not to overly whine about anything; it just gives the antagonist even more resolve to piss em off further.


30 posted on 02/03/2006 1:40:58 PM PST by KillTime (Democracies that can't distinguish between good and evil or deny any difference shall surely perish.)
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To: thierrya

"Inserting itself into a dispute..."
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Do we have a sign on our back that says 'Kick Me'?
This is like a guy getting in the middle of a girl fight.
Really, really stupid.


31 posted on 02/03/2006 1:41:21 PM PST by Stark_GOP
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To: thierrya

It is being reported on Drudge that a painting depicting Christ on the cross is an image of OBL ... where's the outrage???????????


32 posted on 02/03/2006 1:41:21 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: sure_fine
move that could help America's battered image in the Islamic world

When are we going to wake up? These people are always going to hate us for no other reason than we don't wear towels on our heads and pray to Allah five times a day. Why the F--K do we keep worrying about what these people think of us!

They have NO problem or guilt about being cowardly terrorists. Why should we feel guilty about being a civilized culture?
33 posted on 02/03/2006 1:43:13 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: thierrya
Hey, kids, let's see what the State Department position is regarding Muslim persecution of religious minorities:

State Department delays action against Saudi Arabia

By: BARRY SCHWEID - Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration has postponed punishing Saudi Arabia for restricting religious freedom, giving the U.S. ally six more months to show it has made progress in its treatment of religious minorities.

One year ago, the State Department declared that religious freedom was absent in the Arab kingdom. Under U.S. law, the Bush administration could have imposed sanctions such as trade restrictions -- as it has done with some other countries.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice notified Congress last week that she had authorized a 180-day waiver of action against Saudi Arabia "in order to allow additional time for the continuation of discussions leading to progress on important religious freedom issues."

34 posted on 02/03/2006 1:43:22 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: thierrya

"Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."

'Unless its by the Muslim Press against Jews,' he said out of the other side of his mouth. Then we do nothing as much worse occurs on a daily basis for decades with state controlled press all over the Muslim world.


35 posted on 02/03/2006 1:43:32 PM PST by dervish (Osama, please hold, I'm trying to reach an FISC judge)
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To: SkyDancer

It's still the Clinton state department. I halfway expect Madeline Allbright to pop up and remind us of cultural sensitivities like the stupid byotch did after the Cole attack.


36 posted on 02/03/2006 1:44:22 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: thierrya
Buy Danish products.

I can think of a few items.

Havarti cheese.

Carlsberg does own breweries in most European countries.

37 posted on 02/03/2006 1:44:38 PM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: thierrya
O NO WE DON'T. GOT IT? UNDERSTAND?

Jihad vs. Nuclear option? FINE BY ME.

A cartoon as prelude to nuclear war? These people are sick and lost. Nuke'em would be a public service.
Iran, Iraq, and Syria need to disappear ASAP. The world without Islam? PRICELESS!!!
38 posted on 02/03/2006 1:44:48 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: thierrya; All

The latest on the Cartoon War ( plus tons about The Alleged Religion of Peace [ TARP ] ) is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052520/posts?page=479#479


39 posted on 02/03/2006 1:45:34 PM PST by backhoe
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To: thierrya
It's alright. These Radical Muslims are destroying their own base, the MSM. The State Department will continue to talk out two sides of their mouths, free speech and bad taste, but in the end the Radical Muslims will crumble under their own hypocrisy.
40 posted on 02/03/2006 1:45:35 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: thierrya
Whatever we do we musn't agitate the mooselimbs.

They might fly planes into our buildings and murder innocent people.

41 posted on 02/03/2006 1:45:37 PM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: thierrya
Yoo hoo! State Department! Over here!

Bin Laden artwork hanging in NYC (Osama as Christ?!)

42 posted on 02/03/2006 1:45:43 PM PST by lowbridge (All that is needed for evil to triumph is for "RINOS" to do something)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

State: "Muskrats, guarding their musk."?

And what makes the hottentot so hot?
If he tells us, we'll pass it on.


43 posted on 02/03/2006 1:46:08 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: thierrya

State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said ...

"We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."

WTF???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is not for President Bush or SoS Rice or Kurtis Cooper to determine the extent of "acceptable" press freedom, nor can they enforce the coupling of "expression" with "responsibility".

And, why would anybody in the Federal government -- GWB included -- get upset about some foreigner offending Muslim sensibilities when the National Endowment of the Arts subsidizes blasphemy?


44 posted on 02/03/2006 1:47:35 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: tumblindice

...winning the war on terror.


45 posted on 02/03/2006 1:47:46 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Haemo

Whats so horrible about this story is how the State Dept could have contained this. THis all came about because the House of Faud was desperate to get the fact that again hundreds of pilgrams died during this year pilgrimage as well as about sixty in a hotel collapse and all of that could have been avoided if not for Saudi mismanagement. So they have their papers find cartoons in a Dutch paper four months before that no Moslem reads and inflames the issue to cover their butt. As usual the House of Saud couldnt contain the jeannie once it was out of the bottle. If someone had been paying attention at Foggy Bottom they could have nipped this in the bud with some phone calls to the Saudi Govt. THere is a cool Saudi Moslem guy that a blog called the Religious Policeman that has a hillarious take on this.


46 posted on 02/03/2006 1:47:54 PM PST by bayourant
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To: Darksheare

The Bush administration disagrees with you. They do not claim that WMD was found.


47 posted on 02/03/2006 1:47:55 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: thierrya

The State Department works for Condoleezza Rice.
She works for the President.

This fellow has stated that the US supports the Muslims.
Either he was talking out of turn, in which case there will be a public correction and he will be said to have been in error, or there will not be a public correction.

If there is not a public correction, then this is, in fact, the policy of President George Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and the United States Government, and it is dishonest to slough off such an utterly gutless position on some underling flunky.

If there is no retraction, the buck stops with Bush.


48 posted on 02/03/2006 1:48:37 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gee....I didn't know Condi had so much hair!


49 posted on 02/03/2006 1:48:53 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: libertarianPA

only when we become muslims, and not until then, will they not find reason to be offended


50 posted on 02/03/2006 1:49:59 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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