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[Madison] Metro memo focuses on Venezuelan oil discounts
The (People's) Daily Cardinal ^ | 2/3/2006 | Ben Broeren

Posted on 02/03/2006 6:20:41 PM PST by Thunder90

Offers of discounted Venezuelan diesel fuel from CITGO to the Chicago Transit Authority have sparked speculation on similar offers being made to Madison Metro. The offer to the CTA would have given a 40-percent discount in return for reduced fares for lower income groups.

Ann Gullickson, transit service manager of Madison Metro, wrote in a memo to general manager Catherine Debo that if a similar offer were made to Madison, it could provide “in excess of $1 million.” She noted the CTA refused the offer because of incompatibility of diesel fuel standards.

According to Gullickson, the CTA and Madison Metro both use Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel, which is not supplied by CITGO. ULSD will be required under EPA regulations by Sept. 2006.

Additionally, the political differences surrounding Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and President Bush make such proposals hard to pursue, according to UW-Madison Latin American history professor Steve Stern. He maintained, however, that CITGO’s offer was a “political gesture” of goodwill.

“[Chavez] is saying, ‘Look, we’re not against the American people,’” Stern said. “‘We [Venezuelans] are as humanitarian and generous as the next person.’”

On the United States’ aversion to dealing with Venezuela, Stern claimed U.S. independence and pride are at the center of the debate.

“In U.S. culture, it’s unsettling to think of ourselves as people who are in need of others,” Stern said.

George Twigg, spokesperson for Mayor Dave Cieslewicz, said economic issues of such a policy would have to be considered over political ones.

“If it’s something that makes sense financially and legally, then we’ll take a look at it,” Twigg said.

Ald. Austin King, District 8, is a major proponent of such a deal.

“It would be the best opportunity I’ve seen to improve the bottom line of Madison Metro without cutting routes or raising fares,” King said.

King maintained there are many politicians who feel uneasy about dealing with Venezuela. However, he said, denying such a proposal on political reasons would be “severely shortsighted.” He added that citizens of Chicago were upset with the denial of CITGO’s offer, asking the CTA to reconsider.

Stern said Madison would be a good candidate for CITGO’s discount, though opposition remained.

“It would be an intriguing thing to pursue,” Stern said, “though it would be hard to accomplish politically.”


TOPICS: US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: barkingmoonbats; citgo; communism; communists; democrats; dims; greenparty; hugochavez; looneyleft; madistan; moonbats; moscowonmendota; progressivedane; uw; venezuela
Madison is swallowing the red pill again.
1 posted on 02/03/2006 6:20:44 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Ladysmith

Ping!


2 posted on 02/03/2006 6:21:02 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Wow. I can't believe this, even for a socialist, liberal bastion such as Madison. Oh, wait...I guess I can.


3 posted on 02/03/2006 6:27:57 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Thunder90
Additionally, the political differences surrounding Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and President Bush make such proposals hard to pursue, according to UW-Madison Latin American history professor Steve Stern.

Man, those Latin American history professors know everything. /sarc

4 posted on 02/03/2006 6:50:37 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Thunder90
"“It would be the best opportunity I’ve seen to improve the bottom line of Madison Metro

Yeah, let's ignore the poor suckers in Venezuela that are financing your socialist promotion with their own sweat.

5 posted on 02/03/2006 10:49:36 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Watery Tart; KRAUTMAN; reformedliberal; Mygirlsmom; codercpc; s2baccha; ozaukeemom; PjhCPA; ...

"Your Seat of Government" Ping! :)

"George Twigg, spokesperson for Mayor Dave Cieslewicz, said economic issues of such a policy would have to be considered over political ones.

'If it’s something that makes sense financially and legally, then we’ll take a look at it,' Twigg said.

Ald. Austin King, District 8, is a major proponent of such a deal."

These three are usually the "players" in any socialist matter in Madistan. The Smoking Ban, mandatory paid sick days for people that work 12 hours a week, a mandatory Minimum Wage...and Mayor Dave's drug-induced pipe dream of sparkly, shiney streetcars rushing up and down State Street, just like his "Shining City on a Hill," Seattle, because in his stupor, that's where he thinks he lives. We've been throwing money down the Rat Hole of Madison Metro for decades. Even back when it was a PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, the city was bailing it out. Not to mention the FREE rides that city workers, or hospital workers and low income people can have for the asking. Yep. A bus filled with non-paying riders fills the gas tank! Yeesh!

Face it, Mayor Dave. Not many around here WANT to ride the bus. If they did, it would be a SUCCESSFUL venture in and of itself. Ever hear of The Free Market? Didn't think so. *Rolleyes* Quit forcing people into your socialist dreamworld. We're busy & productive people with services to provide and money to make and no time to waste hanging around a graffiti-filled bus shelter. Who do you think pays your salary? The slackers on the dole? Double-Yeesh!

He also skipped the "Conference of Mayors" this year because they aren't leftist enough group for him! *Smirk*

So, even CONSIDERING to buy gasoline on the cheap and under the table from a Communist Dictator is absolutely the right thing to do in the minds of these three lunatics.

(Good catch, Thunder90!)


6 posted on 02/04/2006 5:49:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Thunder90
Additionally, the political differences surrounding Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and President Bush make such proposals hard to pursue, according to UW-Madison Latin American history professor Steve Stern.

How about ILLEGAL? I notice that part of it doesn't enter into it. Maybe John sKer'ry is doing the negotiations with a hostile foreign government on behalf of all of us again? You know, because we don't know any better....

Oh, yeah, this is the state of Diamond Jim Doyle (WEAC-WI) -- former AG, mind you -- who is going to save us $$ by having us buy drugs from Canada. Breaking Federal law. Sheesh.

7 posted on 02/05/2006 12:11:17 AM PST by Watery Tart (And the stewardess said to the vulture, "Sorry, sir. Only one carrion per passenger.")
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