Sunnis and Sadr's Shiites make peace

News.com.au Sunday Times ^ | February 26, 2006

[bnelson44]

Not that strange. Here are the options for Sadr that I know of:

1) Iraq has a government and Sadr is part of it
2) Iraq has a government and Sadr is not part of it
3) Iraq has a government and Sadr sides with Iran an openly fights it (he will loose since the US is on the Iraq
government's side)
4) Iraq has a government and Sadr allies himself with Iran and al-Qaeda (he tried that and al-Qaeda kept killing
Shiite sheiks which alienated his adherents).

Sadr's only real option is #1 and that is the one he chose.

[jmc1969]

We could have killed Zarqawi (or at least have a good chance of doing so) before the war, but the fools in the State Department were worried about us scaring away some of our allies before the war by hitting Zarqawi.

[gotribe]

And over the grave of that nutcase in Iran.

[nuconvert]

Here's the real deal:

"Iraq has a government and Sadr, who is a puppet of Iran,
is part of it"

[nuconvert]

Not so strange when you understand that the shiite and sunni families (and Kurds) are intermarried. These guys most probably have in-laws and cousins who belong to the other sect.

[Darkwolf377]

It's one of the first signs of Nationalism and it's a positive unless of course you're speaking from the DNC vantage or the Pat Buchanan wing of the Republican party.

You nailed it--the most clear-thinking poster on the thread. Present company excepted...

[NY Attitude]

Question is: How many of the then allies of the Ayatollah are still in favor after the departure of the Shah?

[NY Attitude]

You are so correct. Hale Shoma?

[bnelson44]

Looks like it

[Marine_Uncle]

Haw haw haw. So my prediction was off by a few days. It only took some twenty four hours to do the deal. I predicted within a week or so. Perhaps this will seal the tomb for zarq, as well as the Baathist, pure sectarian, and ahemmm, patriotic resistors.
They now will all have to morph from resitors to capacitors. Yea yea. I am going off the deep end.
Meanwhile the rope-a-dope king simply makes a few gentle statements to the effect he is confident things will work out ok. The rage in the L/MSM and dummy circles must be to hard to bare, expect a lot of self inflicted gunshot wounds to be reported.

[q_an_a]

you get a ten on Olympic scoring system of insights.

[bnelson44]

I found this part of the article interesting:

In fact, Sadr's office in Najaf issued a statement Saturday calling on his followers to eschew their trademark black uniforms.

"The order has been given to members of the Mehdi Army to no longer wear their black uniform, so that it not exploited by those who commit crimes," said the statement.

The statement added that those attacking mosques were "criminal bands with no links to the Sadr movement."

[Marine_Uncle]

"Good read.I've seen nothing about this in the American media."
Surely you don't think they are that stupid. Of course as the sunni and shia walk the streets hand in hand, kissing one another in front of the remaining camera crews, the L/MSM will have a little problem. Their prayed for sectarian civil war shall not come to pass. And of course I know you stated in jest.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The sheikhs condemned "those who excommunicate Muslims" a reference to the "takfireen" or Islamist extremists like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who justify killing fellow Muslims by declaring them non-Muslims.

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

[nuconvert]

Khubam. : ) Hale shoma chetore?

[bnelson44]

Congratz!

[NY Attitude]

Khubam, motshakeram. Haste nabasheen.

[Marine_Uncle]

" they'll fight together now, against the infidels."
With respect. Whom? Al-Qaeda has now seen it's worse nightmare, the one zman has written in letters to UBL and the one eyed jack about. With a no possibility of creating a sectarian civil war, all insurgent groups no longer have a means to stay in the fight without having what is becoming a majority of Iraqi willing to point out where they hide.
As for instance the al-Qaeda goons are pushed out of all the rivertine main cities/towns into the remote western desert, they have no based of convenient operations. They have been scattered and minimized to a great effect.
Many of what used to be safe havens, secured car bomb and IED operations in many of the cities both in Al Anbar between the Syrian border down to Baggy dad and through the triangle of death areas have been closed down and the Ali Babbi killed, captured or forced to flee.
Similiarly these actions are being carried out in the northern provinces with equal success. Tal Afar is now as peacefull as a church mouse. Very few and widely spaced attacks happen in Mosul, Kirkuk, Orbil, Samarra, Balad, Tikrit etc..
The southern provinces continue to be mostly quite peacefull. How many attacks have we heard of in say Al Hilla, Al Naf and the other cities in Bibil and southerly that earlier on where hot spots. Sure Baghdad remains a hot spot. After all it is the capital.
But surely the whole country, thousands of towns and cities should be in flames at this point if there was such a willingness for Iraqi to be fighting one another. Why is it only less then a dozen cities out of thousands that you see on occasions an attack happening in? Think about it.

[Marine_Uncle]

I for one continue to think the zman had arrangement to carry out the attack on the shia shrine in Sammara. Or perhaps some small group on the Iranian mullahs or VEVAR payroll. Never the less intersting observance.

[Austin Willard Wright]

err....um.....they also called for withdrawal of U.S. troops (presumably including those long-term bases), or did you miss that part?