Sunnis and Sadr's Shiites make peace

News.com.au Sunday Times ^ | February 26, 2006

[Marine_Uncle]

What are ya trying to do? Give the UK Guardian, BBC, LA Times, Wcompost, a frigen heart attacked.

[SevenMinusOne]

You knew we were in for a long slog when Bush refused to kill Al Sadr back in May 2003. Biggest mistake of the conflict.

That wasn't CIC GBW call - He does not micromanage our Mil HQ's in Iraq (nor should he) - That call was made by both Mil and Civ HQ's on the ground in Iraq (U.S. as well as Iraqi HQ's).

Furthermore Sadr value is vastly over-hyped in all reality. By the MSM for their own agenda....in reality al-Sadr is Jesse Jackson light (in Iraq). He blows a lot of smoke and takes credit for much which he has completely no control over.

Should we take him out? That is debatable question - Continuing to over hype his significance however serves no purpose.

[Marine_Uncle]

So right you are! Thanks for the correction. I have PATTON: Ordeal and Triumph sitting some linear eight feet from where I am typing. My brain is getting rather old. Off course I'll use the excuse, victory is in hand with glory and vice versa. Na, you won't by it. I goofed! I meant to say what you printed.

[SevenMinusOne]

Yup. Should have taken out OBL when we had a chance in Tora Bora too.

First off if he was there they tried to kill him. Secondly, if you think throwing a few hundred to a thousand Rangers in to the Tora Bora Mountains would have somehow "assured" of us killing UBL......You don't have a true understanding of those Mountains...nor how operations are run. Throwing a thousands Rangers on to that Mountain would not have assured us of sh*t!

Lastly, the reality is UBL was very likely gone out of Tora Bora by the time the heavy bombing began. He has left that region likely 7-10 days prior (regardless of what Gary Berntsen has to say....he is trying to sell a book ya know).

Regards,

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Indeed. I'd say Zarqawi has lost the initiative.

If his absence since November 20th is any indication, Zarqawi may have lost more than just his initiative.

[jonrick46]

"This could go really bad for Zarqawi if the Iraqis realize that he and his merry band of headhunters have the most to gain by causing violence.

I'll correct it for you:

"This could go really bad for Zarqawi if the Iraqis realize that he and his merry band of headhunters have the most to lose by causing violence."

[SevenMinusOne]

So many journalist's reps are on the line. They lost big in Afghanistan, purple fingers prevailed. It was impossible for a federal level democratic election to be held in that far land without total blood shed and chaos.

In Iraq, it was impossible for a democratic elections to be held without a total civil war breaking out to prevent it from coming to past. They where all wrong.

It was impossible for any form of constitution to be drafted let alone voted into existence, to many different factions in Iraq would make such a thing impossible. They where wrong.

Now they really are going into epileptic seizures. They are not capable of providing well though out factual journalism free from bias.

Let em choke on the foam spewing out of their mouths.

Well said and exactly right - The MSM (and weak-kneed politicans) are once again making fools of themselves in the eyes of history.

[inquest]

Ah, looking over the exchange, I see the pattern a little better now. Thanks, now I have a couple of words in my Farsi vocabulary, up from zero.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

I'm so tired of the Osama at Tora Bora Barbra Streisand. Every time someone says it, I can't help but hear the wretched, foghorn drone of Massachusetts' long-faced junior Senator.

[jonrick46]

You are connecting dots correctly. The terrorists are realizing that they are getting their butts kicked in Iraq. They are looking for new avenues to fight the West and its American defenders.

[NY Attitude]

No sweat.

[Marine_Uncle]

" Shhh, here is a dirty little secret, not all Iraqis want us to leave."
And I dare say a lot more then one would imagine. The L/MSM have for two years blocked the news that points to the thousands of Iraqi towns that are now better off since Saddam is sitting in the cage.
No use going into the well reherse long lists many of us could type out. I do feel a little sad for those that for some reason, long term Freepers who frequent this site, for some reason have not made note of the two years of infrastructure rebuilding in all areas of endeavor. They seem to go nuts if one L/MSM make a comment about temporary electrical or water shut off in a major city due to some goons somehow getting charges successfully planted, yet fail to realize perhaps half of Iraq that never had clean water treatment plants, plumbed safe water, electricity via. newly installed electrical services, verse all they ever had where desiel electric generators etc., do not neccessarily hate the American and coaliton troops. It is sad how many want to stay ill informed.

[NormsRevenge]

SHHHhhh now,, wouldn't want folks to think peace, maybe even a long-lasting one, is possible in Iraq.

wouldn't fit the bad news template. ;)

[bnelson44]

He's been quite since Nov 20th?

[bnelson44]

He's been quite since Nov 20th?

[SevenMinusOne]

I'm so tired of the Osama at Tora Bora Barbra Streisand. Every time someone says it, I can't help but hear the wretched, foghorn drone of Massachusetts' long-faced junior Senator.

Agreed. The reality is UBL was had likely left the Tora Bora mountains a week or so earlier (then when our heavy bombing began there). Additionally the notion that if we would have put a few hundred to a thousands Rangers on the Mountains that this would have surely accomplished anything is utterly silly.

[smoothsailing]

The media has been running these "Civil War" stories since 2003.

It's their warped version of the movie "Groundhog Day".

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

11/20 was when he was rumored to have been killed. To my knowledge, he's made no public statements since then.

[smoothsailing]

Oh yeah, I forgot.Far be it from me to upset their "American failure" fantasies.The pansies. :-)