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'NYT' Sunday Preview: Former Taliban Spokesman Finds New Haven--at Yale
Editor and Publisher ^ | February 24, 2006 | E&P Staff

Posted on 02/26/2006 8:00:44 AM PST by george76

The Taliban’s former spokesman, Rahmatullah Hashemi, is now an undergraduate at Yale University, The New York Times reveals in a lengthy cover story by Chip Brown in its Sunday magazine this weekend.

The cover line reads, “He was the Taliban’s spin doctor. So what’s he doing at Yale?"

In fact, the story shows, Hashemi was at Yale once before—in 2001, appearing at a forum representing the Taliban, a few months before the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

A small clip of Hashemi appears in Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11” film.

“In some ways,” Hashemi, 27, says today, “I’m the luckiest person in the world. I could have ended up in Guantanomo Bay. Instead I ended up at Yale.” One of the courses he is taking: Terrorism—Past, Present and Future.

(Excerpt) Read more at editorandpublisher.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 02/26/2006 8:00:48 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
“In some ways,” Hashemi, 27, says today, “I’m the luckiest person in the world. I could have ended up in Guantanomo Bay. Instead I ended up at Yale.” One of the courses he is taking: Terrorism—Past, Present and Future.

yeah. pity about the luck of all those people in the Twin Towers that day, eh Hash?

2 posted on 02/26/2006 8:02:56 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
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To: george76

How is this possible? That being said, I'll wager the NYT thinks this is a good thing.


3 posted on 02/26/2006 8:03:35 AM PST by rbg81
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To: the invisib1e hand

Ward Churchill would approve.


4 posted on 02/26/2006 8:05:19 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

He must be one of the "best and brightest" who will move on to influential rolls in his lifetime.


5 posted on 02/26/2006 8:05:54 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: george76

"He was the Taliban’s spin doctor. So what’s he doing at Yale?" "

The brief article does nothing to answer this question.
I kept looking for the rest of the article. What was the point of it?


6 posted on 02/26/2006 8:06:28 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: george76

He is no doubt being lionized there for his incredibly brave stand against the American imperialists.


7 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:04 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: george76

I think what you posted was the write-up about the story. Where's the link to the article?


8 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:19 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: george76

This is interesting. The Taliban if memory serves me right were really not curious in the ways of the World. MOst didnt even have KNowledge of basic geography. I remember their TV kinda of spokesman and didnt realize if this is the same person he was so young


9 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:26 AM PST by bayourant
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To: george76
From the link:

His road to America was paved largely by Mike Hoover, an American TV cameraman who had met Hashemi in Afghanistan. “I thought he could do a lot as a student/teacher,” Hoover said.

Unbelievable!

10 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:28 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: nuconvert

Not sure of the article, but my point is that he should not be at Yale studying Terrorism...


11 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:34 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

From what we know so far, after graduation he would be a excellent employee at the NYTimes.........


12 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:40 AM PST by ConservativeGreek
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To: george76
Maybe it's just me, but I long for the good old days when we simply killed our enemies...

But hey, at least he'll be educated in time for the next attack.

13 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:50 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: george76

If this is accurate about his past, why has the Bush administration not arrested him.


14 posted on 02/26/2006 8:09:59 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: nuconvert

Here is the link.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002074677


15 posted on 02/26/2006 8:10:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

IMO, we're living in a Liberal Twilight Zone. People better wake up before it's too late and the Twilight Zone becomes a nasty reality.


16 posted on 02/26/2006 8:12:28 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rbg81

The NY Slimes would love to hire him.


17 posted on 02/26/2006 8:12:30 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I don't know where he should be without reading the rest of the article.


18 posted on 02/26/2006 8:12:51 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: george76

i'd like to know more about this.


19 posted on 02/26/2006 8:13:18 AM PST by wardaddy ("hillbilly car wash owner outta control")
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To: nuconvert

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


20 posted on 02/26/2006 8:13:54 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: george76

No, that's the link to the brief piece you posted that was written about the original article.


21 posted on 02/26/2006 8:14:27 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Constitutional Patriot

Wonder if HLS has run a check on this dude?


22 posted on 02/26/2006 8:14:37 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Dog Gone

Ahh, Thank you.


23 posted on 02/26/2006 8:15:12 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

All of the article that I have read is with the attached link.

Perhaps you can find more from the NYT.


24 posted on 02/26/2006 8:16:38 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

What idiot gave him a student visa?


25 posted on 02/26/2006 8:16:52 AM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: george76

And the government employee who issued this guy's student visa is still being paid by our tax dollars. Was any of the information on the application even checked and how long after it expires/expired will he stay on American soil? Who's paying for his rent, food, medical, and tuition?


26 posted on 02/26/2006 8:17:41 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: nuconvert

The point is that he's not only allowed back in this country,but he's attending Yale University.


27 posted on 02/26/2006 8:18:37 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: george76

Probably a teacher's assistant.


28 posted on 02/26/2006 8:20:03 AM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: tallhappy

"If this is accurate about his past, why has the Bush administration not arrested him."


He either turned state's evidence or has powerful friends in the right places. I hope he goes into another "active phase" and is caught by homeland security. Be nice to see this sphincter yelling that we flushed his Koran down the toilet, from behind bars.


29 posted on 02/26/2006 8:21:20 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: nuconvert

I doubt Editor & Publisher made it up.


30 posted on 02/26/2006 8:24:24 AM PST by BW2221
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To: BW2221; Thombo2; george76; Dog Gone

There is a very long article at the link given by Dog Gone in #20


31 posted on 02/26/2006 8:27:00 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Dog Gone
Because his official education ended in the fourth grade, the marks eased some of his anxiety about passing muster at Yale.

Must of had some awesome SAT scores. WTF?

32 posted on 02/26/2006 8:27:25 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: Dog Gone
As he stood in the back hunting for a place to sit, he realized that he had been in Luce Hall before. Four years earlier. March 2001.
{snip}
The university saved a seat for him that afternoon, down on the stage. He was the featured speaker, a "roving ambassador" from the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan.
{snip}
Twenty-two years old and a member of the Taliban — at that moment, in fact, the very face and voice of the regime in America. Per decree, his beard was full, his head swaddled in a turban. He was dressed in an Afghan tunic and loose-fitting pants. Neither he nor anyone else in Luce Hall that day could have foreseen the catastrophe ...

33 posted on 02/26/2006 8:27:28 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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His road to America was paved largely by Mike Hoover, an American TV cameraman who had met Hashemi in Afghanistan. “I thought he could do a lot as a student/teacher,” Hoover said.

Naivete shows no bounds.
34 posted on 02/26/2006 8:32:08 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: george76

I highly expect the "roving ambassador" must have been working or turned quickly to the CIA to save his butt and must have given alot of intelligence.


35 posted on 02/26/2006 8:32:10 AM PST by bayourant
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To: nuconvert

Thanx for the link.


36 posted on 02/26/2006 8:33:45 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: bayourant

He likely cut some deal.

After WW II, we let in many a Nazi because of their knowledge and connections.

It still sucks when it happens. There are many other places he should be...other than at Yale.


37 posted on 02/26/2006 8:34:37 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: nuconvert

Anything in the long article that helps ?


38 posted on 02/26/2006 8:36:08 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dog Gone

Thank you for finding the NYT's link.


39 posted on 02/26/2006 8:37:03 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"yeah. pity about the luck of all those people in the Twin Towers that day, eh Hash?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......
If only Yale could have gotten Himmler after WWII to explain Germany to the Ivy League elite..what a missed opportunity. sarc
40 posted on 02/26/2006 8:48:36 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Naivete shows no bounds.

"Naivete".....hmmmm, I hadn't considered that.

41 posted on 02/26/2006 8:50:11 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

i'm thinking of Solzynitsen at Harvard...


42 posted on 02/26/2006 8:51:22 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
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To: the invisib1e hand

"i'm thinking of Solzynitsen at Harvard..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>..........
wanna bet this guy goes to Yale on the Taxpayers Dime?
gotta love the multiculture/leftist/Western white male haters ..they get us to support our own downfall.


43 posted on 02/26/2006 9:00:24 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: george76

This is nothing new Mansour Farhang left his position as a professor at Cal State University Sacramento to answer the call of Ayatollah Khomeini to become revolutionary Iran’s first ambassador to the United Nations. This was at a time during which American diplomats were being held hostage in the embassy in Tehran. He fled back to the United States a few years later after falling out of favor with Khomeini and being threatened with death if he remained in Iran. Sacramento State welcomed him back with open arms reinstating him into his teaching position along with full tenure. He now teaches international relations and Middle Eastern politics at Bennington College, Vermont.


44 posted on 02/26/2006 9:01:57 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: george76

Read the actual New York Times article --- it's actually a fascinating, complicated story.


45 posted on 02/26/2006 9:02:51 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Is there anything useful to post here ?


46 posted on 02/26/2006 9:07:25 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Alter Kaker
Read the actual New York Times article --- it's actually a fascinating, complicated story.

It's here and it's actually a piece of garbage. It's interesting, sure, but heavilt spun and poorly written.

The conclusion is the Taliban weren't so bad and the "warlords" and opium traffickers who've been put back by the US are worse.

He follows the news from Afghanistan every day - increasingly dismayed, as are many, by the return of the warlords, the rise of opium trafficking, the lawlessness and violence that have plagued his country all his life.

47 posted on 02/26/2006 9:09:11 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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"“I thought he could do a lot as a student/teacher,” Hoover said. "

No one could argue that point. of course, the cameraman, being a member of the MSM, meant "do a lot" to overthrow capitalist oppression in United States.


48 posted on 02/26/2006 9:19:52 AM PST by strategofr ( Davidson: "...50 or more [like Foster]..murdered [by Clintons]." Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. 100)
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To: george76
Is there anything useful to post here ?

Maybe.

It was largely for his children's sake that he was pursuing an education on the other side of the earth — for their future and, in some inchoate hope-filled way, for his country's future too. What he often said was that he wanted to be a bridge between the Islamic world and the West. None of the summer students in New Haven knew much about his personal circumstances; of his history they knew nothing at all. He had discussed it with the Yale admissions office, and with an administrator in the provost's office who during a dinner with him seemed concerned that he might be a spy.

Very long article.  These features usually wrap back around to a point somewhere near the end.  Will see.

49 posted on 02/26/2006 9:23:14 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: tsmith130

"Must of had some awesome SAT scores. WTF?"

more likely he's doing the "football player" curriculum, ie---being provided with the answers to tests in advance, and given good grades even if he fails to memorize the right answer.

Of course, you have to realize that the average grade and Harvard now is very close to straight A's. They give out no C's and very few B's. Recently, there was a bit of a problem because the president of Harvard complained about the weakness of the grading system. The problem has been solved however (the president, Summers, has put in his resignation, effective for a few months from now. The actual incident that caused him to be removed (straw that broke the camel's back) was that he said the reason there are so few women achieving in science might be genetic.)


50 posted on 02/26/2006 9:24:23 AM PST by strategofr ( Davidson: "...50 or more [like Foster]..murdered [by Clintons]." Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. 100)
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