The National Right to Life worked with NARAL & NOW AGAINST South Dakota's anti-abortion Bill

[Coleus]

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South Dakota Right To Life
PO Box 1032
314 South Central
Pierre SD 57501
Phone (605) 224-9181
Fax - (605) 224-2141
E-Mail:
sdrtl@iw.net
State Director: Brock Greenfield

National Right to Life Committee
512 10th St. NW  
Washington, DC 20004
(202) 626-8800
NRLC@nrlc.org

[Coleus]

The Thomas More Law Center stated that again in 2006, the National Right to Life and their State affiliate in South Dakota did nothing to help South Dakota's anti-abortion law pass.

[vrwc0915]

typical

[Aussie Dasher]

What's going on here????

[ECM]

WTH Bump

[Coleus]

they don't want to work themselves out of power and out of a job. that's what it comes down to. Who are they to preach when the time is right? Notice they never elaborated as to when the right time would be.

[madprof98]

Maybe. I think a reasonable case can be made, however, that an AFFIRMATION of Roe by a 5-4 or even 6-3 court would leave us even worse off.

[wingman1]

bump

[Cicero]

Since its founding NRL has often been wishy washy and weak spined. As a result, I have never contributed to them.

They seem to be afraid of being thought extremists, or of taking a firm stand, or of offending the political establishment.

When Operation Rescue came out with their Truth Trucks, that struck me as a more useful way to proceed. I donate to maybe a dozen RTL organizations, but never to NRL. It's worse than the RNC.

[moondoggie]

Chas. Krauthammer hypothesized the other day that he thinks the Roberts' court is going to take on cases to slowly chip away at abortion rights in this country one case at a time.

Krauthammer says Robers is "much too smart" to take on a case for overturning the whole kit and kaboodle...which would plunge states into major chaos.

FWIW

Another perspective.

[Sun]

In New York State they would not endorse the Right-to-Life candidate in the governor's race in 2002. They will never do anything to hurt a Republican it seems, even though the Republican candidate was pro-abortion Pataki, who changed the NYS platform from pro-life to pro-"choice" I was told.

btw, I have heard that the NYS GOP contributes to them.

[TigersEye]

Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Adverse Effects

Total Abortions since 1973

45,951,133

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

Roe v Wade: FULL Text (The Decision that wiped out an entire Generation 33 years ago today)

[cgk]

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

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[wagglebee]

HUH?!

[cgk]

That was my reaction. I couldn't even think of what picture to use I was so stunned. I guess I'm just naive.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I believe the concern is that we are still one vote down on the Supreme Court. If Roe vs. Wade is reaffirmed a third time, several justices (Roberts and Scalia) might uphold it in any future challenge based on their professed allegiance to saving bad law to preserve precedent (stare decisis). The worry is that a challenge right now might permanently codify a constitutional right to abortion just before we will have enough votes to overrule it. Although I almost always support NRL's policy positions, I am personally not comfortable with this "lose the battle, win the war" approach in this case. I just don't believe there can be "acceptable losses" when dealing with the lives of the unborn.

[chae]

I thought I heard that this law doesn't have an exception for maternal health? Maybe they're not supporting it because if there is not a clause citing maternal health as a reason, they can't support it?

[Mr. Silverback]

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[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[AliVeritas]

Thanks so much, I will call for an explanation (as if there is one). Will mail you with the answer.

[juliej]

the NY State GOP is in shambles and one election short of total extinction. I am embarrassed by this pro abortion group. However, there are still a couple of Republicans in NY State who are solidly pro life: Peter King and State Senator Serphin Maltese for example. This state - and California - lead in promoting birth control yet have the highest abortion rates. Gee, do you think there is a connection??????

[juliej]

The "maternal health clause" is a total crock. "Health" is defined as a bad day at the office or ingrown toe nail. The horrible Doe decision codified the "healh" exception - including mental/psychological health.

[Sun]

I'm sending this message by e-mail to Republican politicians, and probably a letter to editor:

"The NYS Republican Party THINKS it can't get anyone elected, unless they run a pro-abortion liberal. However, pro-abortion, liberal Howard Mills lost to Schmuckie with a humiliating 24%.

Pro-life John Spencer won the mayor's race in Yonkers, twice, and who knows how many other times he would have won if it weren't for term limits.

Former Senator Al D'Amato won in the 90's, by the same number of votes cast on the NYS Right-to-Life line. Later he promoted pro-abortion Pataki, so the NYS Right-to-Life did not endorse D'Amato, and he LOST!

When former A.G. Vacco was endorsed by the NYS Right-to-Life Party - he WON! The next time around, his campaign manager unwisely told him not to seek the NYS Right-to-Life Party endorsement, and Vacco lost by the number of votes cast on the NYS Right-to-Life Party line.

My NY state senator is a pro-life, conservative.

Majority leader GOP Bruno is pro-life.

Minority GOP leader Tedeski is a pro-life, conservative.

And so it goes............

According to a poll that I read, pro-lifers will vote for a pro-life candidate, but pro-"choicers" will vote for other issues."

[juliej]

No argument from me; pro lifers (and I am one) are very devoted to the cause - more so than the wishy washy people who are nominally "pro choice".

[Sun]

In NYS GOP gubernatorial candidate Weld is pro-abortion, and GOP candidate John Faso is pro-life with exceptions. I don't agree with Faso's exceptions, but he has a pretty good pro-life voting record, when he was an assemblyman.

Faso is ahead in the polls of Weld by 9%, so it obviously doesn't hurt to be pro-life in NYS. But try to tell that to the NYS GOP. (eyeroll)

[Coleus]

The Legacy of Judas: National Right to Life